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Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« on: September 14, 2025, 03:43:21 AM »

I support him.Lets hope the supreme court allows him to contest.
If he supports Kalonzo or Matiangi,They will undermine him and destroy him the same way Ruto did.The whole united opposition withcraft is centred on making Kalonzo the candidate while the entry of the likes of Muturi and Kuria in opposition was to bring in confusion in the opposition.If he contests, He is assured of over 80Mps,12 Governors, Over 200MCAs and International support that he can use as a bargaining tool.He can pass the mantle to Methu in 2032.

Gachagua goal should be either to be the president or official opposition leader.If he supports Kalonzo or Matiangi and any of them happens to win,The first order of business will be to destroy by any means necessary.

Let Kalonzo join Ruto or run, Its none of our business.

Riggy G should now stop mentioning Kalonzo anywhere.He should distance himself completely away from him.

Under the new constitutional order in Kenya,Its better to be an opposition leader than a deputy president.

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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2025, 09:29:39 AM »
I dont see how he is allowed to run - but Ruto would suddenly love to see him run - and if there is legal way to let him run he will be allowed to run.

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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2025, 10:56:14 AM »
RiggyG is barred and has no intent to run. He is just stringing Regular Githunguri. They are doing G7 - everyone runs for PORK until Dec 2026 'formula'.

RiggyG will be prime CS. Done deal.

Kalonzo-Natembeya ticket very likely.
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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2025, 11:04:12 AM »
I dont see how he is allowed to run - but Ruto would suddenly love to see him run - and if there is legal way to let him run he will be allowed to run.

Even if cleared by court RiggyG is not likely to run. Of course the case give him a good excuse: Look, evil Ruto has blocked me - vote Kalonzo and punish him.

I suspect his team of old Muite et al will pussyfoot the case until past elections.
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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2025, 12:08:14 PM »
As long as we have odm Raila.. opposition are wasting time. Unless they prize Raila out of gov we don't need election. That simple. Ruto 35%. Raila 30%. 60%. Opposition 40%0

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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2025, 12:43:12 PM »
1) What does Gachagua gain from supporting Kalonzo or Matiangi? A prime CS or DP who can be impeached?

2) He should be on the ballot for two purposes.

(A) Charge the public that Ruto wants to rig election,reject results and lead demonstrations and forcefully negotiate prime minister position when Ruto rigs next election.

(B) Plan B should be to ensure that if he uses PLAN A,He will be having political protection from international groupings and countries while having a sizeable number of Mps and senators to do the bidding and while whipping political propaganda and emotions.

Supporting Kalonzo/Matiangi is not the best option.If either gets elected,first order of business will be to handshake Raila/Ruto axis to destroy Gachagua back to Wamunyoro.

Gachagua biggest enemy right now is not even Ruto,It's Matiangi Kalonzo garbage.

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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2025, 12:47:15 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/live/LxUhowjyAMU?si=om8x3U8o1YZnw3I8

He has confirmed he will be on the ballot.

Now he is making sense.

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2025, 01:50:42 PM »
As long as we have odm Raila.. opposition are wasting time. Unless they prize Raila out of gov we don't need election. That simple. Ruto 35%. Raila 30%. 60%. Opposition 40%0

ODM is already breaking with Kenya Moja rebels mostly Luhya, Gusii. Raila will deliver Luo and Mijikenda.

I think polls will start once Raila declare Ruto tosha. Late 2026.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2025, 02:23:38 PM »
You like hyping jokes like Kenya Moja - Sifuna and Babu :) are not any force - ODM has solid 30- Ruto has solid 30 - merger btw the two is just unbeatable.
ODM is already breaking with Kenya Moja rebels mostly Luhya, Gusii. Raila will deliver Luo and Mijikenda.

I think polls will start once Raila declare Ruto tosha. Late 2006.

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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2025, 02:36:20 PM »
1) What does Gachagua gain from supporting Kalonzo or Matiangi? A prime CS or DP who can be impeached?

2) He should be on the ballot for two purposes.

(A) Charge the public that Ruto wants to rig election,reject results and lead demonstrations and forcefully negotiate prime minister position when Ruto rigs next election.
A divided oppostion will be hanged separately. Don't underrate Ruto with Raila.

Rigging will be Somali immigrants in NEP (tough to stop) and stuffing in deep Kalenjin and Luo - spend big on party agents and get media there.

Hyper-charging the public is okay and expected - but Gema and Kamba don't have the muscle and arrows to force a NARA. Plan to win square or get ready to run to SCORK - then sulk in opposition benches.


(B) Plan B should be to ensure that if he uses PLAN A,He will be having political protection from international groupings and countries while having a sizeable number of Mps and senators to do the bidding and while whipping political propaganda and emotions.
I don't see PEV with RV-Luo alliance. If they get rigged by Ruto they will just wail for few days and go home.
Equally if they beat Ruto fair & square - Ruto goes home. Because it nonsense for PORK to cry rigging.

The idea and best strategy is a joint PORK candidate only. Azimio- or Jubilee-2013 style. Downstream will be zoning. DCP will take Mlima, Wiper takes Kamba, Matiang'i UPA Gusii, etc.
DCP will obviously have MPs, governors, MCAs no matter the outcome.


Supporting Kalonzo/Matiangi is not the best option.If either gets elected,first order of business will be to handshake Raila/Ruto axis to destroy Gachagua back to Wamunyoro.

Gachagua biggest enemy right now is not even Ruto,It's Matiangi Kalonzo garbage.
Nothing stops PORK from shortchanging or betraying you with handshake, impeachment, firings, etc. Welcome to politics. What would senile Raila do if Ruto 2.0 shortchange ODM?

What I see for RiggyG - he knows it near-impossible to directly beat Ruto in 2027. So get a friendly government of Kalonzo - then play polite gentleman even if shortchanged. Try to get cleared by court to run in 2032.

RiggyG's biggest enemy is IMPEACHED. Kalonzo is just an opportunist.
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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2025, 02:46:07 PM »
Lol you could equally say Raila-Uhuru was 60% vs Ruto 40.

But ground shifted - the decisive factor was Ruto A-game.

Now you see RiggyG game is good. Without him with useless Kalonzo and Matiang'i 5% - Ruto would still be running for AU president. :)

RiggyG is behind G7 - Kalonzo is already hanging his own potrait in Tseikuru - while Matiang'i and Natembeya are eying DPORK.

Naturally you disagree.


You like hyping jokes like Kenya Moja - Sifuna and Babu :) are not any force - ODM has solid 30- Ruto has solid 30 - merger btw the two is just unbeatable.
ODM is already breaking with Kenya Moja rebels mostly Luhya, Gusii. Raila will deliver Luo and Mijikenda.

I think polls will start once Raila declare Ruto tosha. Late 2006.
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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2025, 02:54:21 PM »
Pundit hio hubris. Ati Ruto 60%.

In reality he is back to meeting MCAs, teachers, women/youth groups, - every nobody on almost daily basis.

I see anything but confidence in Ruto-Raila camp.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2025, 08:23:49 PM »
Ruto got undone by silly M23 - and Raila missed AU.
Ruto has to sleep with one eye open because Raila could pull 2002.
If Raila is committed to UDA - hakuna elections.
Mt kenya alone at even 25% cannot beat Ruto.
The best they can do is Kalonzo 35% - plus Gusii and some Luhyas - 40% - max 45%.
Ruto min 55%
Pundit hio hubris. Ati Ruto 60%.

In reality he is back to meeting MCAs, teachers, women/youth groups, - every nobody on almost daily basis.

I see anything but confidence in Ruto-Raila camp.

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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2025, 09:42:21 PM »
Where does Raila get 30% from? Walk us through his tribal math that will garner that much. At best Raila is in mid tens.

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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2025, 10:19:41 PM »
 :) Without running himself he's down to Luo and Mijikenda - and kamatusa/NFD pastoralists where opposition has no game.
If he runs half Mijikenda and bulk of pastoralists will still remain with Ruto.

Malava will tell us. Farouk is lodging there with cash. If Luhya dump UDA even by small margin - shida kubwa.
Then Gusii unless they bag Matiang'i -

Ruto problem remains RiggyG ability to string a tale - am inelligible so I will give you D/PORK. Nobody will leave that for a few billions or CS.

Where does Raila get 30% from? Walk us through his tribal math that will garner that much. At best Raila is in mid tens.
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Re: Gachagua,I will be on the ballot.Parts ways with Kalonzo.
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2025, 10:34:07 PM »
That the problem with overreliance on buying loyalty - can't bribe Ramaphosa or Tshisekedi.
After AU failure they should have done better deal - Raila keeps running, then back Ruto in run-off. Instead of do or die round 1.
Now as ODM splinter or haemorrhage all over - if Raila runs there will be bigger war between them than with RiggyG camp.

Ruto got undone by silly M23 - and Raila missed AU.
Ruto has to sleep with one eye open because Raila could pull 2002.
If Raila is committed to UDA - hakuna elections.
Mt kenya alone at even 25% cannot beat Ruto.
The best they can do is Kalonzo 35% - plus Gusii and some Luhyas - 40% - max 45%.
Ruto min 55%
Pundit hio hubris. Ati Ruto 60%.

In reality he is back to meeting MCAs, teachers, women/youth groups, - every nobody on almost daily basis.

I see anything but confidence in Ruto-Raila camp.
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