Kindiki cant keep DPORK - Bus, DP, Jubilee & Munya PNU all against Ruto

[RV Pundit]

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UDA crew with Ruto will run to some party.

And with that Prof Kindiki will lose his DPORK seat.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-06-18-kiraitus-bus-party-joins-gachaguas-camp

[Nefertiti]

Mt Kenya West aka kikuyus - it will be DCP wipeout.

Mt Kenya East - DCP PORK/Dpork/PM/whatever - local parties for other seats as usual.


Basically GEMA is gone gone., write it off from Ruto column.

[Nefertiti]

We are still waiting for old, lame Raila to make his move.

Riggy has run away with Kamba, so desperate Ruto needs to send Farouk to his Dubai vault.

[RV Pundit]

Yeah Ruto has to write it off and look elsewhere.

Mt Kenya West aka kikuyus - it will be DCP wipeout.

Mt Kenya East - DCP PORK/Dpork/PM/whatever - local parties for other seats as usual.


Basically GEMA is gone gone., write it off from Ruto column.

[RV Pundit]

Bado Kenyattas have their game - with Matiangi
RiggyG can only run away by backing Kalonzo.
The cousin alliance if they combine will hit 40%.
Ruto will give Luos DPORK and win by 60%;
Only guy losing is Kindiki as of now

We are still waiting for old, lame Raila to make his move.

Riggy has run away with Kamba, so desperate Ruto needs to send Farouk to his Dubai vault.

[Nefertiti]

2 BIG things:

->Senile Raila move
->Israel-Iran new gulf war - expect gas and inflation to go up 

Either way keep your fingers crossed.

Bado Kenyattas have their game - with Matiangi
RiggyG can only run away by backing Kalonzo.
The cousin alliance if they combine will hit 40%.
Ruto will give Luos DPORK and win by 60%;
Only guy losing is Kindiki as of now

We are still waiting for old, lame Raila to make his move.

Riggy has run away with Kamba, so desperate Ruto needs to send Farouk to his Dubai vault.

[Nefertiti]

Pundit - RiggyG already beat Kenyatta in 2022. Dafrao peupe.

I know you are desperate but Matiang'i-Muhoho ticket will not move the needle. GEMA is Riggy-fied.

[Njuri Ncheke]

UDA crew with Ruto will run to some party.

And with that Prof Kindiki will lose his DPORK seat.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-06-18-kiraitus-bus-party-joins-gachaguas-camp

Kalenjins are such a wreck you screw up in just 2 years, idiots!!! Now you want Kindiki to do miracles when OCS TAALAM and PC Kiprono are blatantly killings kenyans live on tv
Pundit wewe ni kichaa acha pombe jinga

[Nefertiti]

UDA crew with Ruto will run to some party.

And with that Prof Kindiki will lose his DPORK seat.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2025-06-18-kiraitus-bus-party-joins-gachaguas-camp

Kalenjins are such a wreck you screw up in just 2 years, idiots!!! Now you want Kindiki to do miracles when OCS TAALAM and PC Kiprono are blatantly killings kenyans live on tv
Pundit wewe ni kichaa acha pombe jinga

Useless dwarf has failed to deliver as we thought all along. Ruto brought a baby to a bar brawl.

It will be easy to read the gameplan:-

■ Right now Ruto crew of coathangers led by Ichung'a and the impotent dwarf are trying to salvage something in Kamba. But Kalonzo has openly rebuffed them. RiggyG outpaced them there.
■ Kikuyus in GoK will be fired - Isaac Mwauras and Kurias, Mbarires - if Ruto has given up on Mt Kenya crumps.
■ Luos will be elevated - Mbadi or Wanga could be crowned DPORK if dwarf resigns - this is if Raila is going with Ruto. This is a FAT chance as Baba blows hot & cold. 50-50 at best.

I don't fancy Ruto's chances.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

To win elections, you need trillions of shillings, police, IEBC, Supreme Court, which are all in Ruto's hands. Raila has been winning elections, but never had Trillions, IEBC and Supreme Court under lock and key! It is a waste of time to go to election without IEBC and Supreme Court on your side!

[Nefertiti]

Kibaki and Ruto had none of those things and still won. So

To win elections, you need trillions of shillings, police, IEBC, Supreme Court, which are all in Ruto's hands. Raila has been winning elections, but never had Trillions, IEBC and Supreme Court under lock and key! It is a waste of time to go to election without IEBC and Supreme Court on your side!

[RV Pundit]

Kalenjin and Merus are not in this boss.
This is Ruto, Kindiki, etc.
FOCUS.
Kindiki cannot keep DPORK if he has no support.
Kalenjin are mostly busy doing weeding of their maize now.

Kalenjins are such a wreck you screw up in just 2 years, idiots!!! Now you want Kindiki to do miracles when OCS TAALAM and PC Kiprono are blatantly killings kenyans live on tv
Pundit wewe ni kichaa acha pombe jinga

[RV Pundit]

If you assume Ruto has lost GEMA yote - who voted for him - he still a solid 30% - of national votes. (GEMA were like 40% of his 50%)
If you assume Ruto has gained in areas it was competing with ODM (Kamatusa+NEP+Coast) on account of incumbency - you can say Ruto has gained 10%.
Ruto is not looking for Kindiki to do more than 10%.
Ruto needs that 10% - 40% he will look out for that himself.

Kindiki - Poor Kindiki - doesnt look like he can deliver 10% - from Mt kenya East and Diaspora kikuyus.

The opposition have tougher jobs - Raila (50-50 in opp), Kalonzo, Matiangi, RiggyG, etc --- will have to agree a line up - and Ruto will snap one - who is dissatisfied.

Kalonzo and Raila have age problem. BOTH MUST RUN NOW - Kalonzo can only deputize Ruto and still run in 2032. Raila is already urinating on himself

So Ruto will take either Raila (already RUTO is pretty much 50% conquered) or Kalonzo (talking stage - Plan B).

For Ruto he has to chance absolutely Keep his coalition of 30% - try to beat ODM/AZIMIO in MATUSA+SOM+Part of coast (where he trailed)

And just wait to pick Raila or Kalonzo - game short.

So is Ruto having it rought
Nope
He is looking for finishing.
1) Kindiki - struggling but still viable.
2) Raila - 50-50 but Ruto has made lots of headway.
3) Kalonzo - is insurance on 1 and 2 failing. If opposition gains Raila. They lose Kalonzo.

Useless dwarf has failed to deliver as we thought all along. Ruto brought a baby to a bar brawl.

It will be easy to read the gameplan:-

■ Right now Ruto crew of coathangers led by Ichung'a and the impotent dwarf are trying to salvage something in Kamba. But Kalonzo has openly rebuffed them. RiggyG outpaced them there.
■ Kikuyus in GoK will be fired - Isaac Mwauras and Kurias, Mbarires - if Ruto has given up on Mt Kenya crumps.
■ Luos will be elevated - Mbadi or Wanga could be crowned DPORK if dwarf resigns - this is if Raila is going with Ruto. This is a FAT chance as Baba blows hot & cold. 50-50 at best.

I don't fancy Ruto's chances.

[Nefertiti]

GEMA were 47% of Ruto's 50%. Call it 23% of Kenya. Say Ruto has his 30% alone.

RiggyG has that 20%+ and is barred - which makes him kingmaker. He seem hellbent on unseating Ruto

Kalonzo is still delusional thinking he will be PORK - but I don't see Riggy toshaing him. Kalonzo can only be DPORK at best wherever he goes.

Raila remain the Queen. If RiggyG tosha Raila-Kalonzo. Ruto has nothing better to offer Raila who want to be PORK for 1 day before he pops off.
You should do the proper math about ODM base split if Raila become opposition flag-bearer. Likely most will remain if they see him likely to win even at 80.

Don't take it for granted that Kalonzo will join you. His homeground is being worked hard anti-Ruto by Team Riggy - who has Ruto figured out.

Start working the numbers for Ruto worst case scenario: Raila-Kalonzo-RiggyG vs Ruto-Mdvd-Duale.

If you assume Ruto has lost GEMA yote - who voted for him - he still a solid 30% - of national votes. (GEMA were like 40% of his 50%)
If you assume Ruto has gained in areas it was competing with ODM (Kamatusa+NEP+Coast) on account of incumbency - you can say Ruto has gained 10%.
Ruto is not looking for Kindiki to do more than 10%.
Ruto needs that 10% - 40% he will look out for that himself.

Kindiki - Poor Kindiki - doesnt look like he can deliver 10% - from Mt kenya East and Diaspora kikuyus.

The opposition have tougher jobs - Raila (50-50 in opp), Kalonzo, Matiangi, RiggyG, etc --- will have to agree a line up - and Ruto will snap one - who is dissatisfied.

Kalonzo and Raila have age problem. BOTH MUST RUN NOW - Kalonzo can only deputize Ruto and still run in 2032. Raila is already urinating on himself

So Ruto will take either Raila (already RUTO is pretty much 50% conquered) or Kalonzo (talking stage - Plan B).

For Ruto he has to chance absolutely Keep his coalition of 30% - try to beat ODM/AZIMIO in MATUSA+SOM+Part of coast (where he trailed)

And just wait to pick Raila or Kalonzo - game short.

So is Ruto having it rought
Nope
He is looking for finishing.
1) Kindiki - struggling but still viable.
2) Raila - 50-50 but Ruto has made lots of headway.
3) Kalonzo - is insurance on 1 and 2 failing. If opposition gains Raila. They lose Kalonzo.

[RV Pundit]

40-47% - it pretty much the same thing  - Ruto has 30% out 50% as of 2022.
Assume GEMA were 25-26% of total vote in 2022 - Ruto scores 80% - 20%.
The deficit here is 20%.
In worse case scenario you're describing where RiggyG & Uhuru goes all out on Raila and get Kalonzo to deputize - maybe convince him Raila will die soon after.
Ruto will have to keep Kindiki and try to win that 10% by hook and crook.
That will be Kibaki 2007 style rigging, Moi 92 machievalian moves and 97 Moi beating kibaki by a whisker.
Ruto is battling essentially for 10%
He has made headway on 10% from Som+related+Kamatusa (I dont know the precise maths - but aside of Taita/Kilifi/MSA - he has maybe 17 solid counties).
What he needs is simple 1) Retain 1/3 of gema - KIndiki or 2) Get kambas -kalonzo or well Keep ODM-Raila (find Raila what to do).

GEMA were 47% of Ruto's 50%. Call it 23% of Kenya. Say Ruto has his 30% alone.

RiggyG has that 20%+ and is barred - which makes him kingmaker. He seem hellbent on unseating Ruto

Kalonzo is still delusional thinking he will be PORK - but I don't see Riggy toshaing him. Kalonzo can only be DPORK at best wherever he goes.

Raila remain the Queen. If RiggyG tosha Raila-Kalonzo. Ruto has nothing better to offer Raila who want to be PORK for 1 day before he pops off.
You should do the proper math about ODM base split if Raila become opposition flag-bearer. Likely most will remain if they see him likely to win even at 80.

Don't take it for granted that Kalonzo will join you. His homeground is being worked hard anti-Ruto by Team Riggy - who has Ruto figured out.

Start working the numbers for Ruto worst case scenario: Raila-Kalonzo-RiggyG vs Ruto-Mdvd-Duale.

If you assume Ruto has lost GEMA yote - who voted for him - he still a solid 30% - of national votes. (GEMA were like 40% of his 50%)
If you assume Ruto has gained in areas it was competing with ODM (Kamatusa+NEP+Coast) on account of incumbency - you can say Ruto has gained 10%.
Ruto is not looking for Kindiki to do more than 10%.
Ruto needs that 10% - 40% he will look out for that himself.

Kindiki - Poor Kindiki - doesnt look like he can deliver 10% - from Mt kenya East and Diaspora kikuyus.

The opposition have tougher jobs - Raila (50-50 in opp), Kalonzo, Matiangi, RiggyG, etc --- will have to agree a line up - and Ruto will snap one - who is dissatisfied.

Kalonzo and Raila have age problem. BOTH MUST RUN NOW - Kalonzo can only deputize Ruto and still run in 2032. Raila is already urinating on himself

So Ruto will take either Raila (already RUTO is pretty much 50% conquered) or Kalonzo (talking stage - Plan B).

For Ruto he has to chance absolutely Keep his coalition of 30% - try to beat ODM/AZIMIO in MATUSA+SOM+Part of coast (where he trailed)

And just wait to pick Raila or Kalonzo - game short.

So is Ruto having it rought
Nope
He is looking for finishing.
1) Kindiki - struggling but still viable.
2) Raila - 50-50 but Ruto has made lots of headway.
3) Kalonzo - is insurance on 1 and 2 failing. If opposition gains Raila. They lose Kalonzo.

[Nefertiti]

You are getting closer to reality. There are still a few delusions:

▪ Uhuru has game. This was planted into you by Ruto post-GenZ when desperate Ruto thought Uhuru can bring Gema back with 3 CS. But like you told us yourself in 2022: fatso Uhuru like retired Moi is respected but ignored. Stop bringing him up like he matters.

▪ Kindiki might still bring 1/3 Gema. This is laughable from your own title of this thread. Drop this false hope. Dwarf seems more homely at rallies in Makueni.

Accept Gema is gone with RiggyG.

Kalonzo or Raila exchanging places is possible. Foxy RiggyG seem to be working on that with "our cousins" scheme but it still an open field.

40-47% - it pretty much the same thing  - Ruto has 30% out 50% as of 2022.
Assume GEMA were 25-26% of total vote in 2022 - Ruto scores 80% - 20%.
The deficit here is 20%.
In worse case scenario you're describing where RiggyG & Uhuru goes all out on Raila and get Kalonzo to deputize - maybe convince him Raila will die soon after.
Ruto will have to keep Kindiki and try to win that 10% by hook and crook.
That will be Kibaki 2007 style rigging, Moi 92 machievalian moves and 97 Moi beating kibaki by a whisker.
Ruto is battling essentially for 10%
He has made headway on 10% from Som+related+Kamatusa (I dont know the precise maths - but aside of Taita/Kilifi/MSA - he has maybe 17 solid counties).
What he needs is simple 1) Retain 1/3 of gema - KIndiki or 2) Get kambas -kalonzo or well Keep ODM-Raila (find Raila what to do).

[RV Pundit]

1) GEMA and RiggyG

RiggyG has not wrapped up GEMA.

People often inflate RiggyG’s political capital — yet he was impeached - by 89 MPs from GEMA.
It’s unlikely he can carry the entire GEMA region.
RiggyG is a toxic figure, difficult to collaborate with, and has few credible leaders behind him.
While he may attract some sympathy, that doesn’t easily translate into solid support for the DCP.
Many who can't align with RiggyG will likely channel their efforts through parties like Jubilee, BUS, PNU, and DP — leading to a fragmented GEMA political landscape.

Still, most of these factions are expected to oppose Ruto at the presidential level.

If Kindiki is retained, a small group might rally around him — not enough to reach 1/3 representation, but certainly more than zero.

2) The Kindiki Scenario

This represents Ruto’s worst-case scenario — where he loses Raila, Kalonzo, and the GEMA bloc.

In such a setup, Kindiki becomes a placeholder — like Kibaki’s Moody Awori — a symbolic figure to front electoral operations.

Ruto would likely fall short of 50%, but just like Moi in 1992, he could flood the system with money and use rigging tactics to survive politically.


This scenario where we assume Ruto loses the core ODM to opposition - where GEMA decided to back Raila - and Kalonzo also decided to back Raila.

Kindiki is being kept as DPORK for exactly that reason - as the default scenarios.

You are getting closer to reality. There are still a few delusions:

▪ Uhuru has game. This was planted into you by Ruto post-GenZ when desperate Ruto thought Uhuru can bring Gema back with 3 CS. But like you told us yourself in 2022: fatso Uhuru like retired Moi is respected but ignored. Stop bringing him up like he matters.

▪ Kindiki might still bring 1/3 Gema. This is laughable from your own title of this thread. Drop this false hope. Dwarf seems more homely at rallies in Makueni.

Accept Gema is gone with RiggyG.

Kalonzo or Raila exchanging places is possible. Foxy RiggyG seem to be working on that with "our cousins" scheme but it still an open field.

[Nefertiti]

▪ GEMA and RiggyG -

I know things are bad when the Kang'atas and Ndindi Nyoros - loudmouths - are now quiet watermelons. They are stuck between Ruto and hostile ground. Mbeere North will be a good test for this, especially because it is Mt Kenya East.

MPs voting against RiggyG tells us more about their selfish interests and RiggyG toxic traits - than the ground. 2026/7 we should see the moves better. Come on, you taught us these things.

What those Mbus, etc parties will do - contest local but back RiggyG for top. As usual. Kiraitu insisted for long Uhuru must join Mbus and threatened to back Kalonzo. Same old grind. Most hopeless of course is Jubilee - cause Mt Kenya proper will brook no divisive nonsense. Unless hapless Matiang'i break some real sweat and sell it in Gusii.


▪ Kindiki as placeholder -

If UDA is buried in Mbeere, even without both Kalonzo and Raila, would it not be better to have Mdvd and Duale on the ticket? Luhya and Somali vote is substantive. If Gema support crumble and ODM remain non-committal Ruto should elevate Luhya - after firing all Kikuyus.  Why have Kikuyu GoK spokesman and such with zero payoff?


▪ Ruto incumbency -

Old Raila is in it for the largesse. Blowing hot & cold NOW with his snout in the trough - is very bad sign for Ruto. ODM should be saluting Ruto but instead half are fighting him.

Money is the one keeping 89 Gema MPs who impeached RiggyG. It can buy Kalonzo broke after years in the cold. A powerful tool.

I don't know how well rigging goes now with tight controls - unless at registration level with Somali and South Sudanese. Very limited effectiveness.

Israel-Iran war is potential big problem - if inflation rise  - like Ukraine war in 2022. People will blame Ruto.

1) GEMA and RiggyG

RiggyG has not wrapped up GEMA.

People often inflate RiggyG’s political capital — yet he was impeached - by 89 MPs from GEMA.
It’s unlikely he can carry the entire GEMA region.
RiggyG is a toxic figure, difficult to collaborate with, and has few credible leaders behind him.
While he may attract some sympathy, that doesn’t easily translate into solid support for the DCP.
Many who can't align with RiggyG will likely channel their efforts through parties like Jubilee, BUS, PNU, and DP — leading to a fragmented GEMA political landscape.

Still, most of these factions are expected to oppose Ruto at the presidential level.

If Kindiki is retained, a small group might rally around him — not enough to reach 1/3 representation, but certainly more than zero.

2) The Kindiki Scenario

This represents Ruto’s worst-case scenario — where he loses Raila, Kalonzo, and the GEMA bloc.

In such a setup, Kindiki becomes a placeholder — like Kibaki’s Moody Awori — a symbolic figure to front electoral operations.

Ruto would likely fall short of 50%, but just like Moi in 1992, he could flood the system with money and use rigging tactics to survive politically.


This scenario where we assume Ruto loses the core ODM to opposition - where GEMA decided to back Raila - and Kalonzo also decided to back Raila.

Kindiki is being kept as DPORK for exactly that reason - as the default scenarios.

[RV Pundit]

Where do you get this idea that all parties will support RiggyG and his DCP ideas?
DCP itself has failed to attract tractions - I dont see leader rushing to a toxic individual - I see he is left with same tiny groups.
Most of 89 will likely back Kenyatta - as counter-weight against RiggyG
As far as I can tell for now - Jubilee/Uhuru - are silently backing Matiangi?
Ndidi is looking likely to test run - with an eye for 2032?
RiggyG is impeached and wont run - but likely to back Kalonzo
Will Mt kenya agree to back ticket where they are not president or deputy president - just to remove Ruto - - and leave Kindiki.
MaDVD is bad choice - he has maxed out - Moi put him as deputy  - he lost even Sabatia -- Luhyas are deeply divided people - Duale is useless.
If Kalonzo or Raila wont back Ruto - Ruto will stick with Kindiki.

Bottomline there are so many variables out there; Kenyattas havent even spoken

What we have now is essentially 3 forces; Ruto; Raila (declining as Ruto is eating his base while he is eating the money); Riggy+Kalonzo+uhuru; all playing 30-40%;

▪ GEMA and RiggyG -

I know things are bad when the Kang'atas and Ndindi Nyoros - loudmouths - are now quiet watermelons. They are stuck between Ruto and hostile ground. Mbeere North will be a good test for this, especially because it is Mt Kenya East.

MPs voting against RiggyG tells us more about their selfish interests and RiggyG toxic traits - than the ground. 2026/7 we should see the moves better. Come on, you taught us these things.

What those Mbus, etc parties will do - contest local but back RiggyG for top. As usual. Kiraitu insisted for long Uhuru must join Mbus and threatened to back Kalonzo. Same old grind. Most hopeless of course is Jubilee - cause Mt Kenya proper will brook no divisive nonsense. Unless hapless Matiang'i break some real sweat and sell it in Gusii.


▪ Kindiki as placeholder -

If UDA is buried in Mbeere, even without both Kalonzo and Raila, would it not be better to have Mdvd and Duale on the ticket? Luhya and Somali vote is substantive. If Gema support crumble and ODM remain non-committal Ruto should elevate Luhya - after firing all Kikuyus.  Why have Kikuyu GoK spokesman and such with zero payoff?


▪ Ruto incumbency -

Old Raila is in it for the largesse. Blowing hot & cold NOW with his snout in the trough - is very bad sign for Ruto. ODM should be saluting Ruto but instead half are fighting him.

Money is the one keeping 89 Gema MPs who impeached RiggyG. It can buy Kalonzo broke after years in the cold. A powerful tool.

I don't know how well rigging goes now with tight controls - unless at registration level with Somali and South Sudanese. Very limited effectiveness.

Israel-Iran war is potential big problem - if inflation rise  - like Ukraine war in 2022. People will blame Ruto.

1) GEMA and RiggyG

RiggyG has not wrapped up GEMA.

People often inflate RiggyG’s political capital — yet he was impeached - by 89 MPs from GEMA.
It’s unlikely he can carry the entire GEMA region.
RiggyG is a toxic figure, difficult to collaborate with, and has few credible leaders behind him.
While he may attract some sympathy, that doesn’t easily translate into solid support for the DCP.
Many who can't align with RiggyG will likely channel their efforts through parties like Jubilee, BUS, PNU, and DP — leading to a fragmented GEMA political landscape.

Still, most of these factions are expected to oppose Ruto at the presidential level.

If Kindiki is retained, a small group might rally around him — not enough to reach 1/3 representation, but certainly more than zero.

2) The Kindiki Scenario

This represents Ruto’s worst-case scenario — where he loses Raila, Kalonzo, and the GEMA bloc.

In such a setup, Kindiki becomes a placeholder — like Kibaki’s Moody Awori — a symbolic figure to front electoral operations.

Ruto would likely fall short of 50%, but just like Moi in 1992, he could flood the system with money and use rigging tactics to survive politically.


This scenario where we assume Ruto loses the core ODM to opposition - where GEMA decided to back Raila - and Kalonzo also decided to back Raila.

Kindiki is being kept as DPORK for exactly that reason - as the default scenarios.

[Nefertiti]

So Ndindi is running for president  on Farmers Party or which one?

RiggyG has A game - he is storming Meru with united opposition he is stringing along.
DCP just needs the ground and MPs, governors, everyone will flock there.

I am also watching out for Matiang'i-Muhoho ticket

Meantime Matiang'i is in RiggyG Meru itinerary. Muhoho is MIA.

Where do you get this idea that all parties will support RiggyG and his DCP ideas?
DCP itself has failed to attract tractions - I dont see leader rushing to a toxic individual - I see he is left with same tiny groups.
Most of 89 will likely back Kenyatta - as counter-weight against RiggyG
As far as I can tell for now - Jubilee/Uhuru - are silently backing Matiangi?
Ndidi is looking likely to test run - with an eye for 2032?
RiggyG is impeached and wont run - but likely to back Kalonzo
Will Mt kenya agree to back ticket where they are not president or deputy president - just to remove Ruto - - and leave Kindiki.
MaDVD is bad choice - he has maxed out - Moi put him as deputy  - he lost even Sabatia -- Luhyas are deeply divided people - Duale is useless.
If Kalonzo or Raila wont back Ruto - Ruto will stick with Kindiki.

Bottomline there are so many variables out there; Kenyattas havent even spoken

What we have now is essentially 3 forces; Ruto; Raila (declining as Ruto is eating his base while he is eating the money); Riggy+Kalonzo+uhuru; all playing 30-40%;