Israel attack Iran

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

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[Nefertiti]

Israel cannot do that without the US. Here in the US, There will likely be regime change in America if Trump attempts to go full war with Iran. Americans are tired of war, and about 60% of America is pro-Iran and anti Israel.

Yes non-Americans don't get this. MAGA will break up first. If you see MTG oppose Netanyahu openly. And Tucker Carlson grilling Ted Cruz.

It's more complex than that.  MAGA are starting to make noises because Trump suggested going easy on migrant farm workers.  Arresting brown migrants and making a scene of it is their addiction and what attaches them to Trump like leeches.  As long as he keeps that porn going, it does not matter what else he is doing(he can raid "Central bank" and fill his pockets and they'll be fine with it).  That is my take on MAGA.  It's a white grievance lost cause movement.  They are not peeling off because they care about Iran or hate war.  They just dislike anything that takes away from the favorite pastime - mistreatment of brown and dark skinned folks nearer home.

You are right; I don't think they will abandon Trump as long as Trump is oppressing non-whites, especially immigrants. The main problem facing Trump right now are the billionaire Israeli Americans who want Trump to take America to war with Iran or face a takedown, possibly poisoning or a JFK-style assassination. Trump has no good choices right now. He has to frogmarch us into an illegal war because the system wants it, whether Trump and his supporters want it or not. I stay on Telegram, 4chan, and other platforms where crazy Trump MAGA resides. Most are pro-Iran and anti-Jews, but they are only stuck with Trump because they falsely believe Trump will remove non-whites eventually from the US. They are concerned Trump is not coming up with plans for genocide against African Americans the same way Netanyahu has done to Palestinians. In fact, most MAGA want blacks out of the US more than Latinos or immigrants. They are super crazy and delusional if you get to hear their conversation/philosophy. Presence of Black people in America kills them completely!

And they don't care if it bankrupts America.  The whole DOGE thing and what they call waste is anything that does not serve this purpose.  I think Musk used it for his own nefarious purposes like stealing taxpayer data.  DHS has been moving funds away from terrorism to deportations and concentration camps.   I worry about the US exposure to a serious terrorism event just because of this alone, even without the chaos already encouraged and created in the Middle East.

MAGA is not just poor rednecks. Middle-class MAGA is very anti-war and anti-China (or pro-trade war). They believe Afghanistan and Iraq invasions handed China a free ride almost ahead of us economically. So another military misadventure is no-no and Trump's tariff capitulations really annoy them. They are as delusional as the 4chan crew in the US as 'industrial power' nostalgia.

These are the types I meet in the Bay Area.

[Nefertiti]

Mainstream media has brainwashed many Americans the same way Israelis thought they were "the most powerful military in the world." Col. Wilkerson and other top former military people are coming out slowly, saying IRAN will beat America to smithereens in the war because they are prepared, unlike the US with old weapons. The US has extended their armory, helping ISRAEL WARS in Yemen, Syria, Palestine, etc. Israel right now is rubble, but the world cannot see because the same mainstream media is blocking journalists from reporting from the ground. Almost day 10, and the Iranians still have the upper hand!

The biggest lie is how Israel can control Iranian airspace yet missiles and drones continue landing in Tel Aviv. If you see how precise Iranian attacks are on tiny Israel - they hit a military intelligence complex in Bersheba today (Thurdsday) - but MSM are lying that Iran targeted a hospital. They don't tell you it's a military hospital right next to the base used principally to treat soldiers injured in Gaza.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

It's more complex than that.  MAGA are starting to make noises because Trump suggested going easy on migrant farm workers.  Arresting brown migrants and making a scene of it is their addiction and what attaches them to Trump like leeches.  As long as he keeps that porn going, it does not matter what else he is doing(he can raid "Central bank" and fill his pockets and they'll be fine with it).  That is my take on MAGA.  It's a white grievance lost cause movement.  They are not peeling off because they care about Iran or hate war.  They just dislike anything that takes away from the favorite pastime - mistreatment of brown and dark skinned folks nearer home.

You are right; I don't think they will abandon Trump as long as Trump is oppressing non-whites, especially immigrants. The main problem facing Trump right now are the billionaire Israeli Americans who want Trump to take America to war with Iran or face a takedown, possibly poisoning or a JFK-style assassination. Trump has no good choices right now. He has to frogmarch us into an illegal war because the system wants it, whether Trump and his supporters want it or not. I stay on Telegram, 4chan, and other platforms where crazy Trump MAGA resides. Most are pro-Iran and anti-Jews, but they are only stuck with Trump because they falsely believe Trump will remove non-whites eventually from the US. They are concerned Trump is not coming up with plans for genocide against African Americans the same way Netanyahu has done to Palestinians. In fact, most MAGA want blacks out of the US more than Latinos or immigrants. They are super crazy and delusional if you get to hear their conversation/philosophy. Presence of Black people in America kills them completely!

And they don't care if it bankrupts America.  The whole DOGE thing and what they call waste is anything that does not serve this purpose.  I think Musk used it for his own nefarious purposes like stealing taxpayer data.  DHS has been moving funds away from terrorism to deportations and concentration camps.   I worry about the US exposure to a serious terrorism event just because of this alone, even without the chaos already encouraged and created in the Middle East.

MAGA is not just poor rednecks. Middle-class MAGA is very anti-war and anti-China (or pro-trade war). They believe Afghanistan and Iraq invasions handed China a free ride almost ahead of us economically. So another military misadventure is no-no and Trump's tariff capitulations really annoy them. They are as delusional as the 4chan crew in the US as 'industrial power' nostalgia.

These are the types I meet in the Bay Area.

I agree they are represented in all classes.  I disagree there was anything sophisticated behind lining up for the fraud, 90% of whose campaign was promising to get rid of filthy third worlders, the other 10% dancing and making a fool of himself on stage.

[Nefertiti]

It's more complex than that.  MAGA are starting to make noises because Trump suggested going easy on migrant farm workers.  Arresting brown migrants and making a scene of it is their addiction and what attaches them to Trump like leeches.  As long as he keeps that porn going, it does not matter what else he is doing(he can raid "Central bank" and fill his pockets and they'll be fine with it).  That is my take on MAGA.  It's a white grievance lost cause movement.  They are not peeling off because they care about Iran or hate war.  They just dislike anything that takes away from the favorite pastime - mistreatment of brown and dark skinned folks nearer home.

You are right; I don't think they will abandon Trump as long as Trump is oppressing non-whites, especially immigrants. The main problem facing Trump right now are the billionaire Israeli Americans who want Trump to take America to war with Iran or face a takedown, possibly poisoning or a JFK-style assassination. Trump has no good choices right now. He has to frogmarch us into an illegal war because the system wants it, whether Trump and his supporters want it or not. I stay on Telegram, 4chan, and other platforms where crazy Trump MAGA resides. Most are pro-Iran and anti-Jews, but they are only stuck with Trump because they falsely believe Trump will remove non-whites eventually from the US. They are concerned Trump is not coming up with plans for genocide against African Americans the same way Netanyahu has done to Palestinians. In fact, most MAGA want blacks out of the US more than Latinos or immigrants. They are super crazy and delusional if you get to hear their conversation/philosophy. Presence of Black people in America kills them completely!

And they don't care if it bankrupts America.  The whole DOGE thing and what they call waste is anything that does not serve this purpose.  I think Musk used it for his own nefarious purposes like stealing taxpayer data.  DHS has been moving funds away from terrorism to deportations and concentration camps.   I worry about the US exposure to a serious terrorism event just because of this alone, even without the chaos already encouraged and created in the Middle East.

MAGA is not just poor rednecks. Middle-class MAGA is very anti-war and anti-China (or pro-trade war). They believe Afghanistan and Iraq invasions handed China a free ride almost ahead of us economically. So another military misadventure is no-no and Trump's tariff capitulations really annoy them. They are as delusional as the 4chan crew in the US as 'industrial power' nostalgia.

These are the types I meet in the Bay Area.

I agree they are represented in all classes.  I disagree there was anything sophisticated behind lining up for the fraud, 90% of whose campaign was promising to get rid of filthy third worlders, the other 10% dancing and making a fool of himself on stage.

Trump I continue to believe is senile. Dementia is sneaky - before the final meltdown. None of this term's stuff is rational. For instance he seems to be in a deep man-crush on Putin, enough to upend longset policy, at least Israel can be blamed on AIPAC.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

Anderson maybe cancel soon!

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

Trump announced he is giving Iran 2 more weeks before he makes a decision to wage war or not. That is surrender, in my opinion. Military leaders have told Trump to never dare Iran, because in minutes, very advanced missiles will tear through American streets in no time, and there will be nothing to do. Iran decided to advance their missile capabilities when nuclear was curtailed! IRAN is now simply a superpower! After reducing America's top defenses in Israel.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

IRAN is leading the world in civilization, while Israel and, to some extent, America is leading in savagery.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Anderson maybe cancel soon!

Can’t you really tell that this channel is a fake?  One of the titles “DON’T MESS WITH INDIA: INDIA’S MILITARY MIGHT IS TERRIFYING” erased any doubt for me.  Not his style.  While the voice is spot on, Cooper should be safe.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

Anderson maybe cancel soon!

Can’t you really tell that this channel is a fake?  One of the titles “DON’T MESS WITH INDIA: INDIA’S MILITARY MIGHT IS TERRIFYING” erased any doubt for me.  Not his style.  While the voice is spot on, Cooper should be safe.

Yes likely fake, but you don't know how vicious Israeli Americans are. They plot to kill, erase anyone that spew anything anti-Zionism wether directly, or indirectly, especially if you have a large platform. They don't have time to decode what is fake or not. They totally control speech from mega platforms. Candace Owens recently survived assassination for using her large platform to criticize Israel!

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Anderson maybe cancel soon!

Can’t you really tell that this channel is a fake?  One of the titles “DON’T MESS WITH INDIA: INDIA’S MILITARY MIGHT IS TERRIFYING” erased any doubt for me.  Not his style.  While the voice is spot on, Cooper should be safe.

Yes likely fake, but you don't know how vicious Israeli Americans are. They plot to kill, erase anyone that spew anything anti-Zionism wether directly, or indirectly, especially if you have a large platform. They don't have time to decode what is fake or not. They totally control speech from mega platforms. Candace Owens recently survived assassination for using her large platform to criticize Israel!

I have worked with some actually.  Some of the most openly racist people on this planet.  The only other people I have encountered with similar levels of racism are Ukrainians.  I don't put it past Candace Owens to make up a story depending on her current grift.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

Candace Owens was funded by same people as long as she was talking trash about Blacks, BLM, the left etc. As soon as she opened her mouth about Palestine and atrocities done by Israeli Govt, they wanted her dead instantly. Media landscape in America ni tricky Sana! You have unbriddled freedom as long as you are trashing everything, except white supremacy and jewish matters! AIPAC has total domination of American media and all three branches of Govt!

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

If Trump doesn't attack Iran in a big way, he is toast. Israeli-linked Oligarchs that funded him and control America are already getting weary fast. He is the whore and they are the scary pimps. Israel is totally incapacitated and have not been able hit Israel for almost 2 days because military stuff, assets, and Mousad has been wiped out according to sources!

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

If Trump doesn't attack Iran in a big way, he is toast. Israeli-linked Oligarchs that funded him and control America are already getting weary fast. He is the whore and they are the scary pimps. Israel is totally incapacitated and have not been able hit Israel for almost 2 days because military stuff, assets, and Mousad has been wiped out according to sources!

Looking at it from the perspective of the US/Israel axis, they are better off taking this to regime change at a minimum.  If they stop now, they will leave Iran(with even more motivation to get a nuke) and Israel would find themselves back here(dealing with something worse).  Any deal to end this "peacefully" is just buying Iran time - everyone has shown their cards.  The US would be useful in this context.  They need to find, arm and fund an Iranian opposition and help them from the air.  This does not mean I support any of this.

Israel's Achilles Heel is lack of strategic depth.  9 to 10 million people squeezed into a tiny strip straddling the ocean.  If you give them the benefit of the doubt, they may have real(not necessarily legitimate) concerns about a country that calls for their eradication to potentially get nukes, even without Netanyahu.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

That will reap USA to shreds politically and standing in the world, but it seems there is no way out of this. White supremacy is pegged on doing the impossible to keep superiority complex going. If the war is stopped now by giving diplomacy a chance, Iran would have won in the eyes of the world, and that is something Israel and US war hawks will never allow, so it will be misery, or nothing. The guardian, according to some YouTubers are reporting that the Guardian is reporting disturbing news (I can't find the link), that Trump and Netanyahu are considering using nuclear weapons at Iran Fordow facility because it is built to withstand the most lethal US bunker bombs. Netanyahu, I think he wants US to send the first nuclear bombs then follow on his own. If that is the plan they have, I think the world will reshape dramatically. China, Russia, and Global south will slowly detach from the west and that is when major decline will begin forcing it to be even more lethal as they decline the same way British empire died. Israel Govt is now the worst and likely to go down as the most killer regime in world history, but its atrocities are fully covered by western media. Going bay Korean, Vietnam, Iran, Afghanistan, and all the wars waged by America, this one is going to flop again. The US spend 3 trillion dollars in Afghanistan fighting Taliban, lost 5K soldiers and over 20K severely wounded, only to hand over power to same Taliban with dividends in free weapons. With incompetent Trump administration in charge, it will be even much worse, especially when American public is fully anti-wars!

[Nefertiti]

If Trump doesn't attack Iran in a big way, he is toast. Israeli-linked Oligarchs that funded him and control America are already getting weary fast. He is the whore and they are the scary pimps. Israel is totally incapacitated and have not been able hit Israel for almost 2 days because military stuff, assets, and Mousad has been wiped out according to sources!

Looking at it from the perspective of the US/Israel axis, they are better off taking this to regime change at a minimum.  If they stop now, they will leave Iran(with even more motivation to get a nuke) and Israel would find themselves back here(dealing with something worse).  Any deal to end this "peacefully" is just buying Iran time - everyone has shown their cards.  The US would be useful in this context.  They need to find, arm and fund an Iranian opposition and help them from the air.  This does not mean I support any of this.

Israel's Achilles Heel is lack of strategic depth.  9 to 10 million people squeezed into a tiny strip straddling the ocean.  If you give them the benefit of the doubt, they may have real(not necessarily legitimate) concerns about a country that calls for their eradication to potentially get nukes, even without Netanyahu.

Sorry I find it difficult to "see things from the Israeli/AIPAC/Zionist perspective". Israel is armed to the teeth with conventional weapons, and nuclear weapons, running an apartheid system worse than Jim Crow or PW Botha's SA of yore, routinely bombs its defenseless neighbors, maintains a parasitic chokehold on the West, - the list of Israel's abhorent traits is inexhaustible.

So, no they do not deserve absolute security at Iran's and everyone else's expense. Israel has 90 nukes, Iran has 0. Iran merely threatens to erase Israel; - Israel actively murders Iranian generals and scientists. I called it the case of the rabid dog insisting everyone else is the problem not its madness. I watched the guttural faces of Netanyahu and Katz emerging from a meeting in the bunker: they are baffled the Iraninans dare to defend themselves let alone hurl missiles at Israel.

Ask yourself: why is it, whenever there is a vote at the UN, only the US and a handful of Pacific microstates side with Israel vs most of Europe plus the entire Global South? Do you think all those countries are stupid? They see what 99% of Nipate sees - a virulent remnant of colonialism and slavery.

[Nefertiti]

Despite Israel "taking control of Iranian airspace", Earth is still hard

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

If Trump doesn't attack Iran in a big way, he is toast. Israeli-linked Oligarchs that funded him and control America are already getting weary fast. He is the whore and they are the scary pimps. Israel is totally incapacitated and have not been able hit Israel for almost 2 days because military stuff, assets, and Mousad has been wiped out according to sources!

Looking at it from the perspective of the US/Israel axis, they are better off taking this to regime change at a minimum.  If they stop now, they will leave Iran(with even more motivation to get a nuke) and Israel would find themselves back here(dealing with something worse).  Any deal to end this "peacefully" is just buying Iran time - everyone has shown their cards.  The US would be useful in this context.  They need to find, arm and fund an Iranian opposition and help them from the air.  This does not mean I support any of this.

Israel's Achilles Heel is lack of strategic depth.  9 to 10 million people squeezed into a tiny strip straddling the ocean.  If you give them the benefit of the doubt, they may have real(not necessarily legitimate) concerns about a country that calls for their eradication to potentially get nukes, even without Netanyahu.

Sorry I find it difficult to "see things from the Israeli/AIPAC/Zionist perspective". Israel is armed to the teeth with conventional weapons, and nuclear weapons, running an apartheid system worse than Jim Crow or PW Botha's SA of yore, routinely bombs its defenseless neighbors, maintains a parasitic chokehold on the West, - the list of Israel's abhorent traits is inexhaustible.

So, no they do not deserve absolute security at Iran's and everyone else's expense. Israel has 90 nukes, Iran has 0. Iran merely threatens to erase Israel; - Israel actively murders Iranian generals and scientists. I called it the case of the rabid dog insisting everyone else is the problem not its madness. I watched the guttural faces of Netanyahu and Katz emerging from a meeting in the bunker: they are baffled the Iraninans dare to defend themselves let alone hurl missiles at Israel.

Ask yourself: why is it, whenever there is a vote at the UN, only the US and a handful of Pacific microstates side with Israel vs most of Europe plus the entire Global South? Do you think all those countries are stupid? They see what 99% of Nipate sees - a virulent remnant of colonialism and slavery.

Israel is committing genocide and ethnic cleansing in broad daylight.   Israel's historical actions against the Palestinians are indefensible.   But the issue is what should they do now, with respect to Iran, if they are to protect their interests(even if you don't agree with them)?

The Iranian regime's main concern is staying in power over a large population who don't get to have a say.  Israel serves as a foil for them much like non-white immigration does for MAGA.  But I am not sure Israel has the luxury of assuming that is where it ends.  They might behave differently were they a larger country.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

As I expected, the decision has been reached. The two weeks Trump is talking about is just a decoy. The military assets are being gathered for the final assault on Iran. And yes, it is not about nuclear weapons. I think Col. MACGREGOR is right on the money, but I would go deeper. This is not about nuclear weapons but more likely about power and money. This is like the 1885 Berlin Conference decision. The West has to continue sucking the world's resources, and I think they see Iran's independence in the Middle East and support of China, Russia, and the other side as a threat to economic dominance they are about to lose. They will go as if they want to hit the Fordow nuclear facilities, but they want to kill Ayatollah, the Iranian president, and the leadership and bring Iran to complete economic collapse to send a message to possibly Russia, China, and others. This will be so nasty very soon. Reports from the US indicate military assets in the Middle East are moving at speeds to strategic places away from Iranian missiles. These people are evil; they are all about money, oil, power, and total domination. Saudi, Emirates, Kuwait, Jordan, and all these glass-jaw Muslim dictators are in the pockets of US-Israel, and they want Iran to toe the line in the long term. In a nutshell, it is about white supremacy, modern slavery, and economic power. Nuclear BS is just a decoy! I understand how the US, Western Europe, and Israel move! They are one team, and you will see how they will all collaborate the next few months like they did to Gaddafi. If China, Russia, Pakistan, Turkey, and others chicken out, which I suspect, Iran may either go under, or the West will crumble after. Macgregor and other former US generals believe Iran, unlike flashy Muslims that spent their money building Dubai and gleaming cities, Iran for 30 years ahve been spending their money building missile capacity, military, and bunkers, preparing for this war that they knew 30 years ago was coming. Buckle up!

[RV Pundit]

US still moving bombers and re-fuelers to Saudi Arabia.

Will Trump attack Isreal.

Look likely they will knocked out the nuclear facility