Riggy might be elligible to run for PORK

[Nefertiti]

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Once CoA and SCORK clear him. He will throw a spanner into the works.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/gachagua-mwilu-no-power-empanel-judges-impeachment-petitions--5035102#story

[Tactician]

Very good news for WSR. 

If Gachagua runs, the anti-kikuyu campaign will very easy to execute for WSR.

Once CoA and SCORK clear him. He will throw a spanner into the works.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/gachagua-mwilu-no-power-empanel-judges-impeachment-petitions--5035102#story

[Nefertiti]

Yes, in fact I would expect Ruto to clear his way through the courts. But Riggy and Kikuyus are only greedy not stupid. He may be Raila's running-mate.

Very good news for WSR. 

If Gachagua runs, the anti-kikuyu campaign will very easy to execute for WSR.

Once CoA and SCORK clear him. He will throw a spanner into the works.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/gachagua-mwilu-no-power-empanel-judges-impeachment-petitions--5035102#story

[RV Pundit]

Overtaken by events.
RiggyG is impeached.
Whatever happened has happened.
The 3 bench are just doing theoritical work.

[Nefertiti]

Overtaken by events.
RiggyG is impeached.
Whatever happened has happened.
The 3 bench are just doing theoritical work.

If they declare he was impeached illegally, he will not get the job back but will be eligible to run.

[patel]

Philomena mwilu should resign in shame! Bure kabisa.

[Fairandbalanced]

Ruto in 2027 is facing a hostile and incompetent judiciary, they are not going to approve a flawed rigged election and that’s why he is bent on removing Koome.

[Njuri Ncheke]

Overtaken by events.
RiggyG is impeached.
Whatever happened has happened.
The 3 bench are just doing theoritical work.

He might be cleared then he will run knowing his ego, he might calculate that second round then he can back someone else,total greed but works for Ruto perfectly. But I can say without any confusion if riggy G runs for president he will get 0 Meru votes. Riggy is confusing his popularity and sympathy people have for him.

[RV Pundit]

He is struggling to unveil his party for the same reasons - he will realize sympathy - and political support are different animals.

Riggy is confusing his popularity and sympathy people have for him.

[Kadudu]

Gachagua running for president would be Ruto's dream come true. He will make it to the run-off and will loose terribly to Ruto. Given the choice between the shetani they know and the other they do not know, Kenyans will choose the one they know.

He might be cleared then he will run knowing his ego, he might calculate that second round then he can back someone else,total greed but works for Ruto perfectly. But I can say without any confusion if riggy G runs for president he will get 0 Meru votes. Riggy is confusing his popularity and sympathy people have for him.

[Tactician]

Agreed.

Hence why the entry of Matiangi has WSR scared.  If, a big IF, Mt Kenya backs Matiangi, then the central theme of WSR candidature in 27 (anti-Mt Kenya alliance) crumbles.

Gachagua running for president would be Ruto's dream come true. He will make it to the run-off and will loose terribly to Ruto. Given the choice between the shetani they know and the other they do not know, Kenyans will choose the one they know.

He might be cleared then he will run knowing his ego, he might calculate that second round then he can back someone else,total greed but works for Ruto perfectly. But I can say without any confusion if riggy G runs for president he will get 0 Meru votes. Riggy is confusing his popularity and sympathy people have for him.

[patel]

Gachagua will run and most likely he will win. If Gachagua backs Raila or Matiangi, Gema will revolt. The only acceptable choice for Gema is kalonzo.

[Tactician]

Kalonzo?

The fella has been MP for 28 years and minister for 18 years yet cannot name one thing he has done in all these dog years. 

Kalonzo, like MDVD, is akin to the church in Laodicea - neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm.  The only choice is to spit them out

Gachagua will run and most likely he will win. If Gachagua backs Raila or Matiangi, Gema will revolt. The only acceptable choice for Gema is kalonzo.

[patel]

Kalonzo?

The fella has been MP for 28 years and minister for 18 years yet cannot name one thing he has done in all these dog years. 

Kalonzo, like MDVD, is akin to the church in Laodicea - neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm.  The only choice is to spit them out

Gachagua will run and most likely he will win. If Gachagua backs Raila or Matiangi, Gema will revolt. The only acceptable choice for Gema is kalonzo.

Yes it's either Kalonzo or Gachagua goes all the way. You combine Gachagua 25% with Kalonzo 12% and they are sitting pretty at 37%.  If Matiangi  5% and Natembeya 5% that's give you 47%. They only need 4% to win it.  Raila has no chance unless Ruto steps down for him in ODM.  This time around he will be lucky to get 20% of the national vote. 

[Tactician]

Gachagua or Kalonzo duo and you can forget the Kisii and Luhya votes.  Max 35% and WSR gathers the anti-Mt kenya (and their Kamba cousins).

Kalonzo?

The fella has been MP for 28 years and minister for 18 years yet cannot name one thing he has done in all these dog years. 

Kalonzo, like MDVD, is akin to the church in Laodicea - neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm.  The only choice is to spit them out

Gachagua will run and most likely he will win. If Gachagua backs Raila or Matiangi, Gema will revolt. The only acceptable choice for Gema is kalonzo.

Yes it's either Kalonzo or Gachagua goes all the way. You combine Gachagua 25% with Kalonzo 12% and they are sitting pretty at 37%.  If Matiangi  5% and Natembeya 5% that's give you 47%. They only need 4% to win it.  Raila has no chance unless Ruto steps down for him in ODM.  This time around he will be lucky to get 20% of the national vote.

[patel]

Kambas have voted 2x for Luo presidential candidate. It's about time Kalonzo put them to the test and see if they can rudisha mkono. If that's the way the luhyas feel too bad for them. There is no way Gema are voting for someone with 10% or less then face betrayal. It will take several elections for them to heal.
[quote author=Tactician link=topic=17436.msg156401#msg156401 date=1747125
Gachagua or Kalonzo duo and you can forget the Kisii and Luhya votes.  Max 35% and WSR gathers the anti-Mt kenya (and their Kamba cousins).

Kalonzo?

The fella has been MP for 28 years and minister for 18 years yet cannot name one thing he has done in all these dog years. 

Kalonzo, like MDVD, is akin to the church in Laodicea - neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm.  The only choice is to spit them out

Gachagua will run and most likely he will win. If Gachagua backs Raila or Matiangi, Gema will revolt. The only acceptable choice for Gema is kalonzo.

Yes it's either Kalonzo or Gachagua goes all the way. You combine Gachagua 25% with Kalonzo 12% and they are sitting pretty at 37%.  If Matiangi  5% and Natembeya 5% that's give you 47%. They only need 4% to win it.  Raila has no chance unless Ruto steps down for him in ODM.  This time around he will be lucky to get 20% of the national vote.

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[Tactician]

You can only be betrayed after you win. 

Supporting Kalonzo is a losing cause - so Kamba's cannot betray Mt Kenya as Melon wont win.

Why cant Melon win?

1) A melon ticket means Luhya and Kisii vote swings to WSR

2) There is a second requirement to win prez that we seem to forget - winning candidate must gather 25% of the votes in at least 24 counties.   Gachagua would bring the 10 Mt Kenya counties + Nbi + Lamu + Kajiado = 13. 

Melon only brings 3 Ukambani counties (Macha, Kitui, Makueni) + maybe two more (Taita + Msa) = 5

That's a max of 18 counties.  Where does a melon/gachagua ticket get the other 6 counties? 

RAO is currently in bed with WSR - so a runoff btn WSR and Melon/Gachagua would see RAO back WSR. 

Guaranteed loss.

Kambas have voted 2x for Luo presidential candidate. It's about time Kalonzo put them to the test and see if they can rudisha mkono. If that's the way the luhyas feel too bad for them. There is no way Gema are voting for someone with 10% or less then face betrayal. It will take several elections for them to heal.
[quote author=Tactician link=topic=17436.msg156401#msg156401 date=1747125
Gachagua or Kalonzo duo and you can forget the Kisii and Luhya votes.  Max 35% and WSR gathers the anti-Mt kenya (and their Kamba cousins).

Kalonzo?

The fella has been MP for 28 years and minister for 18 years yet cannot name one thing he has done in all these dog years. 

Kalonzo, like MDVD, is akin to the church in Laodicea - neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm.  The only choice is to spit them out

Gachagua will run and most likely he will win. If Gachagua backs Raila or Matiangi, Gema will revolt. The only acceptable choice for Gema is kalonzo.

Yes it's either Kalonzo or Gachagua goes all the way. You combine Gachagua 25% with Kalonzo 12% and they are sitting pretty at 37%.  If Matiangi  5% and Natembeya 5% that's give you 47%. They only need 4% to win it.  Raila has no chance unless Ruto steps down for him in ODM.  This time around he will be lucky to get 20% of the national vote.

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