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Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« on: February 11, 2025, 01:49:45 AM »
Kalenjin population in Nairobi is less than 5%.It means Gachagua and Kikuyu leaving UDA in Nairobi means that UDA in Nairobi is dead.Ruto UDA will not get UDA senator Governor or even single Mp in Nairobi.That means Kalonzo joining hands with Gachagua means you cannot beat Kikuyu Kamba coalition in Nairobi.If you add Luhya and Kisii they win all elective seats in Nairobi from MCA.

Sakaja knows that fact therefore he gains nothing from Ruto.He has decided to share city council billions with Raila and fight for his reelection bid through ODM.Ruto doesn't bring the 40% Kikuyu votes he had in Nairobi which means he is politically useless.If Raila dumps Ruto,Sakaja dumps Ruto.Ruto is a shell.Sakaja is banking on ODM but what he still doesn't know is that ODM is now Odhuluo defeated movement.ODM has been reduced to a Jaluo affair.The Kambas are no longer in Azimio.GEMA is not in Azimio.Luhya over 60% is not in Azimio.

The GEMA KAMBA LUHYA KISII movement is unbeatable in Nairobi .UDA and ODM will be massacred.ODM will only manage 6 Jaluo MPs if lucky Makadara Mathare Roysambu Westland Langata and Kibra.

More Young Jaluo and Luhya MPs don't want to be associated with Ruto from Sifuna Babu Owino and a huge block of young luhyas in Western from omtata salaysa amisi Malala natembeya.

What is there to gain from Ruto? NOTHING.

Sakaja should start condemning abductions extra judicial killings with immediate effect and align with majority Kenyans.

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2025, 07:54:48 AM »
You're dreaming as always
ODM-UDA are one and same thing.
They will be anti-Kikuyu coalition in 2027 versus Anti-Ruto.
Kikuyus have to decide to run alone (terrible) or run with Kalonzo or run with Matiangi.
Its likely we will see Matiangi-Muhoho or Kalonzo-Wamunyoro proxy.
Either way - you will lose Kambas - if they are not main ticket.
Best is Kalonzo-Kikuyu deputy -Matiangi(PM) - that will take you 35-40%.
Ruto will sweep 60-65%.
In Nairobi - Kikuyus will not accept to miss presidency and nairobi govenorship
So they will run with Kambas - if they back Kalonzo.
If GEMA+Kamba merge they will be very close - maybe 45% - however they dont have good candidate.
Candidates - Tim, Babu and Sakaja - are better - yule Roysambu gives Wamunyoro village tribalist vibe.
Nairobians will not elect village tribalist - Sakaja wins.

If they dont give POOR KALOI the main ticket - Ruto will give Kalonzo deputy - assure him of 2032.
Otherwise it likely Luo will be DPORK - Luhyas happy with PMship/Speakers.

Saturday is key. Raila wins. Ruto takes ODM. April is next. IEBC 7. Ruto has this thing wrapped by APRIL 2025.

What next is clean up Supreme court if need be

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2025, 06:49:30 AM »
Sakaja is running ahead of Babu with impending merger. Pundit you seem too confident of merger but likely to be very messy. ODM is not ANC or even Jubilee where Ruto was insider.

Ruto will not "clean up Supreme Court" - that would just forment opposition and is bone-headed.
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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2025, 06:56:41 AM »
Kalenjin population in Nairobi is less than 5%.It means Gachagua and Kikuyu leaving UDA in Nairobi means that UDA in Nairobi is dead.Ruto UDA will not get UDA senator Governor or even single Mp in Nairobi.That means Kalonzo joining hands with Gachagua means you cannot beat Kikuyu Kamba coalition in Nairobi.If you add Luhya and Kisii they win all elective seats in Nairobi from MCA.

Sakaja knows that fact therefore he gains nothing from Ruto.He has decided to share city council billions with Raila and fight for his reelection bid through ODM.Ruto doesn't bring the 40% Kikuyu votes he had in Nairobi which means he is politically useless.If Raila dumps Ruto,Sakaja dumps Ruto.Ruto is a shell.Sakaja is banking on ODM but what he still doesn't know is that ODM is now Odhuluo defeated movement.ODM has been reduced to a Jaluo affair.The Kambas are no longer in Azimio.GEMA is not in Azimio.Luhya over 60% is not in Azimio.

The GEMA KAMBA LUHYA KISII movement is unbeatable in Nairobi .UDA and ODM will be massacred.ODM will only manage 6 Jaluo MPs if lucky Makadara Mathare Roysambu Westland Langata and Kibra.

More Young Jaluo and Luhya MPs don't want to be associated with Ruto from Sifuna Babu Owino and a huge block of young luhyas in Western from omtata salaysa amisi Malala natembeya.

What is there to gain from Ruto? NOTHING.

Sakaja should start condemning abductions extra judicial killings with immediate effect and align with majority Kenyans.

You are assuming Junet-Wanga faction will take over from Raila. I think they will lose to Sifuna-Orengo. Ruto will only get a slice of ODM.
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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2025, 07:45:26 AM »
There will be no merger
It will be UDA-ODM coalition gov.
Ruto will continue to give ODM more meat from GEMA mouth - but with concessions.
We have PSes and once CS (muturis) - Sifuna and anti- Ruto brigade will be prize ODM have to give Ruto.
Sifuna will be fired -very shortly - new Sec General whose brief will be spearhead talks will be picked - likely Junet Mohammed or someone from Luhya land.
Orengo is old fart.

Main ODM guys are all in gov - Johos, Oparanya, Mbadis & Opiyo.
Kinidiki we know is useless having been rejected in GEMA - only good as insurance against Raila/ODM kiburi.

Raila already picked Gladys Wanga as successor. Ruto will give her DPORK.

Next choice is Kalonzo - if he is overlooked by Kikuyu alliance.

3rd Choice is Kindiki - requires lots of work

As for Babu/Tim Wanyonyi ODM -- Tim will be told to Bungoma and compete with UDA.
Babu if he has brain will deputized Sakaja - or take Senate from Sifuna.
Kikuyus will definitely have Governor candidate.

Sifuna and Babu should be busy learning to praise Ruto to survive post Saturday.

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2025, 10:05:52 AM »
When we were making 2010 constitution one thing was apparent make sure the President wins 50%+1 reason was to avoid 2007 .
There will never be Anti Kikuyu Anti Kalenjin Anti Luo Anti Luhya Anti Tribe coalition . Any political formation will require a support from all.
Your likes who think we can go back to Moi error of rigging will be hard pressed come 2027 . Even Luos might team up with GEMA it happened in 2002 and 2010 referendumn and should I quote Raila whenever GEMA and Nyanza wre working together Kenya prospers .


You're dreaming as always
ODM-UDA are one and same thing.
They will be anti-Kikuyu coalition in 2027 versus Anti-Ruto.
Kikuyus have to decide to run alone (terrible) or run with Kalonzo or run with Matiangi.
Its likely we will see Matiangi-Muhoho or Kalonzo-Wamunyoro proxy.
Either way - you will lose Kambas - if they are not main ticket.
Best is Kalonzo-Kikuyu deputy -Matiangi(PM) - that will take you 35-40%.
Ruto will sweep 60-65%.
In Nairobi - Kikuyus will not accept to miss presidency and nairobi govenorship
So they will run with Kambas - if they back Kalonzo.
If GEMA+Kamba merge they will be very close - maybe 45% - however they dont have good candidate.
Candidates - Tim, Babu and Sakaja - are better - yule Roysambu gives Wamunyoro village tribalist vibe.
Nairobians will not elect village tribalist - Sakaja wins.

If they dont give POOR KALOI the main ticket - Ruto will give Kalonzo deputy - assure him of 2032.
Otherwise it likely Luo will be DPORK - Luhyas happy with PMship/Speakers.

Saturday is key. Raila wins. Ruto takes ODM. April is next. IEBC 7. Ruto has this thing wrapped by APRIL 2025.

What next is clean up Supreme court if need be

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2025, 10:08:22 AM »

Kizungu mingi. Babu is your next governor and Ruto will be No 3 come 2027

There will be no merger
It will be UDA-ODM coalition gov.
Ruto will continue to give ODM more meat from GEMA mouth - but with concessions.
We have PSes and once CS (muturis) - Sifuna and anti- Ruto brigade will be prize ODM have to give Ruto.
Sifuna will be fired -very shortly - new Sec General whose brief will be spearhead talks will be picked - likely Junet Mohammed or someone from Luhya land.
Orengo is old fart.

Main ODM guys are all in gov - Johos, Oparanya, Mbadis & Opiyo.
Kinidiki we know is useless having been rejected in GEMA - only good as insurance against Raila/ODM kiburi.

Raila already picked Gladys Wanga as successor. Ruto will give her DPORK.

Next choice is Kalonzo - if he is overlooked by Kikuyu alliance.

3rd Choice is Kindiki - requires lots of work

As for Babu/Tim Wanyonyi ODM -- Tim will be told to Bungoma and compete with UDA.
Babu if he has brain will deputized Sakaja - or take Senate from Sifuna.
Kikuyus will definitely have Governor candidate.

Sifuna and Babu should be busy learning to praise Ruto to survive post Saturday.

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2025, 10:09:21 AM »
Gachagua is one creating Anti-Kikuyu wave!
Ruto is bringing everyone on board.
You're promoting anti-kalenjin hatred - digging Moi grave and asking for Luo-Kikuyu alliance
And we are supposed to fold up and not return fire?
When we were making 2010 constitution one thing was apparent make sure the President wins 50%+1 reason was to avoid 2007 .
There will never be Anti Kikuyu Anti Kalenjin Anti Luo Anti Luhya Anti Tribe coalition . Any political formation will require a support from all.
Your likes who think we can go back to Moi error of rigging will be hard pressed come 2027 . Even Luos might team up with GEMA it happened in 2002 and 2010 referendumn and should I quote Raila whenever GEMA and Nyanza wre working together Kenya prospers .


You're dreaming as always
ODM-UDA are one and same thing.
They will be anti-Kikuyu coalition in 2027 versus Anti-Ruto.
Kikuyus have to decide to run alone (terrible) or run with Kalonzo or run with Matiangi.
Its likely we will see Matiangi-Muhoho or Kalonzo-Wamunyoro proxy.
Either way - you will lose Kambas - if they are not main ticket.
Best is Kalonzo-Kikuyu deputy -Matiangi(PM) - that will take you 35-40%.
Ruto will sweep 60-65%.
In Nairobi - Kikuyus will not accept to miss presidency and nairobi govenorship
So they will run with Kambas - if they back Kalonzo.
If GEMA+Kamba merge they will be very close - maybe 45% - however they dont have good candidate.
Candidates - Tim, Babu and Sakaja - are better - yule Roysambu gives Wamunyoro village tribalist vibe.
Nairobians will not elect village tribalist - Sakaja wins.

If they dont give POOR KALOI the main ticket - Ruto will give Kalonzo deputy - assure him of 2032.
Otherwise it likely Luo will be DPORK - Luhyas happy with PMship/Speakers.

Saturday is key. Raila wins. Ruto takes ODM. April is next. IEBC 7. Ruto has this thing wrapped by APRIL 2025.

What next is clean up Supreme court if need be

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2025, 10:10:32 AM »
Yet you want Ruto to forgive Gachagua :)
Babu can become governor if Kikuyus want it.
I doubt they can stomach that
Presidency is gone.
Nairobi governor is going to be their biggest prize

Kizungu mingi. Babu is your next governor and Ruto will be No 3 come 2027


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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2025, 10:40:48 AM »
Actually its you creating it in your mind. I dont and have never supported Gachagua he was Rutos making but I can see him reaching out to Kalonzo Wamalwa and Natembeya
Stating Moi error is not anti Kalenjin Moi is fact mistuled and was a mistake for Kenya . Kibaki proved it .
Moi advisors were the Biwott and Kulei same thing is happening with Ruto .
Politics is politics same way Raila teamed up with Ruto he can team up with GEMA .


Gachagua is one creating Anti-Kikuyu wave!
Ruto is bringing everyone on board.
You're promoting anti-kalenjin hatred - digging Moi grave and asking for Luo-Kikuyu alliance
And we are supposed to fold up and not return fire?
When we were making 2010 constitution one thing was apparent make sure the President wins 50%+1 reason was to avoid 2007 .
There will never be Anti Kikuyu Anti Kalenjin Anti Luo Anti Luhya Anti Tribe coalition . Any political formation will require a support from all.
Your likes who think we can go back to Moi error of rigging will be hard pressed come 2027 . Even Luos might team up with GEMA it happened in 2002 and 2010 referendumn and should I quote Raila whenever GEMA and Nyanza wre working together Kenya prospers .


You're dreaming as always
ODM-UDA are one and same thing.
They will be anti-Kikuyu coalition in 2027 versus Anti-Ruto.
Kikuyus have to decide to run alone (terrible) or run with Kalonzo or run with Matiangi.
Its likely we will see Matiangi-Muhoho or Kalonzo-Wamunyoro proxy.
Either way - you will lose Kambas - if they are not main ticket.
Best is Kalonzo-Kikuyu deputy -Matiangi(PM) - that will take you 35-40%.
Ruto will sweep 60-65%.
In Nairobi - Kikuyus will not accept to miss presidency and nairobi govenorship
So they will run with Kambas - if they back Kalonzo.
If GEMA+Kamba merge they will be very close - maybe 45% - however they dont have good candidate.
Candidates - Tim, Babu and Sakaja - are better - yule Roysambu gives Wamunyoro village tribalist vibe.
Nairobians will not elect village tribalist - Sakaja wins.

If they dont give POOR KALOI the main ticket - Ruto will give Kalonzo deputy - assure him of 2032.
Otherwise it likely Luo will be DPORK - Luhyas happy with PMship/Speakers.

Saturday is key. Raila wins. Ruto takes ODM. April is next. IEBC 7. Ruto has this thing wrapped by APRIL 2025.

What next is clean up Supreme court if need be

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2025, 10:42:23 AM »
Actually the opposite I dont want them to mend fences . Ruto is much more weaker without him .
But my pragmatism says he can confuse the masses if he mend fences with Gachagua .
Babu is Governor everybody in Naitobi knows it . Sakaja running to ODM is just trying to counter the wave he wont succeed

Yet you want Ruto to forgive Gachagua :)
Babu can become governor if Kikuyus want it.
I doubt they can stomach that
Presidency is gone.
Nairobi governor is going to be their biggest prize

Kizungu mingi. Babu is your next governor and Ruto will be No 3 come 2027


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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2025, 11:07:04 AM »
Babu v Sakaja hakuna shida. If kikuyus support Babu why not.
Actually the opposite I dont want them to mend fences . Ruto is much more weaker without him .
But my pragmatism says he can confuse the masses if he mend fences with Gachagua .
Babu is Governor everybody in Naitobi knows it . Sakaja running to ODM is just trying to counter the wave he wont succeed

Yet you want Ruto to forgive Gachagua :)
Babu can become governor if Kikuyus want it.
I doubt they can stomach that
Presidency is gone.
Nairobi governor is going to be their biggest prize

Kizungu mingi. Babu is your next governor and Ruto will be No 3 come 2027


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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2025, 11:07:45 AM »
Anti-Ruto/Kalenjin v Anti-Gachagua/Kikuyu is how it becoming.
Actually its you creating it in your mind. I dont and have never supported Gachagua he was Rutos making but I can see him reaching out to Kalonzo Wamalwa and Natembeya
Stating Moi error is not anti Kalenjin Moi is fact mistuled and was a mistake for Kenya . Kibaki proved it .
Moi advisors were the Biwott and Kulei same thing is happening with Ruto .
Politics is politics same way Raila teamed up with Ruto he can team up with GEMA .


Gachagua is one creating Anti-Kikuyu wave!
Ruto is bringing everyone on board.
You're promoting anti-kalenjin hatred - digging Moi grave and asking for Luo-Kikuyu alliance
And we are supposed to fold up and not return fire?
When we were making 2010 constitution one thing was apparent make sure the President wins 50%+1 reason was to avoid 2007 .
There will never be Anti Kikuyu Anti Kalenjin Anti Luo Anti Luhya Anti Tribe coalition . Any political formation will require a support from all.
Your likes who think we can go back to Moi error of rigging will be hard pressed come 2027 . Even Luos might team up with GEMA it happened in 2002 and 2010 referendumn and should I quote Raila whenever GEMA and Nyanza wre working together Kenya prospers .


You're dreaming as always
ODM-UDA are one and same thing.
They will be anti-Kikuyu coalition in 2027 versus Anti-Ruto.
Kikuyus have to decide to run alone (terrible) or run with Kalonzo or run with Matiangi.
Its likely we will see Matiangi-Muhoho or Kalonzo-Wamunyoro proxy.
Either way - you will lose Kambas - if they are not main ticket.
Best is Kalonzo-Kikuyu deputy -Matiangi(PM) - that will take you 35-40%.
Ruto will sweep 60-65%.
In Nairobi - Kikuyus will not accept to miss presidency and nairobi govenorship
So they will run with Kambas - if they back Kalonzo.
If GEMA+Kamba merge they will be very close - maybe 45% - however they dont have good candidate.
Candidates - Tim, Babu and Sakaja - are better - yule Roysambu gives Wamunyoro village tribalist vibe.
Nairobians will not elect village tribalist - Sakaja wins.

If they dont give POOR KALOI the main ticket - Ruto will give Kalonzo deputy - assure him of 2032.
Otherwise it likely Luo will be DPORK - Luhyas happy with PMship/Speakers.

Saturday is key. Raila wins. Ruto takes ODM. April is next. IEBC 7. Ruto has this thing wrapped by APRIL 2025.

What next is clean up Supreme court if need be

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2025, 11:50:31 AM »
It will never happen with this constitution , actually majority of Kalenjins dont agree with Ruto politics.
And I take note as Moist you refer to GEMA as Kikuyu and Kipsigis as Kalenjins. Kikuyus Meru and Embus are joint politically in the hip . You yourself acknowledge Ruto tactic of Dividinv them has not worked why you keep referring them as Kikuyus ?




Anti-Ruto/Kalenjin v Anti-Gachagua/Kikuyu is how it becoming.
Actually its you creating it in your mind. I dont and have never supported Gachagua he was Rutos making but I can see him reaching out to Kalonzo Wamalwa and Natembeya
Stating Moi error is not anti Kalenjin Moi is fact mistuled and was a mistake for Kenya . Kibaki proved it .
Moi advisors were the Biwott and Kulei same thing is happening with Ruto .
Politics is politics same way Raila teamed up with Ruto he can team up with GEMA .


Gachagua is one creating Anti-Kikuyu wave!
Ruto is bringing everyone on board.
You're promoting anti-kalenjin hatred - digging Moi grave and asking for Luo-Kikuyu alliance
And we are supposed to fold up and not return fire?
When we were making 2010 constitution one thing was apparent make sure the President wins 50%+1 reason was to avoid 2007 .
There will never be Anti Kikuyu Anti Kalenjin Anti Luo Anti Luhya Anti Tribe coalition . Any political formation will require a support from all.
Your likes who think we can go back to Moi error of rigging will be hard pressed come 2027 . Even Luos might team up with GEMA it happened in 2002 and 2010 referendumn and should I quote Raila whenever GEMA and Nyanza wre working together Kenya prospers .


You're dreaming as always
ODM-UDA are one and same thing.
They will be anti-Kikuyu coalition in 2027 versus Anti-Ruto.
Kikuyus have to decide to run alone (terrible) or run with Kalonzo or run with Matiangi.
Its likely we will see Matiangi-Muhoho or Kalonzo-Wamunyoro proxy.
Either way - you will lose Kambas - if they are not main ticket.
Best is Kalonzo-Kikuyu deputy -Matiangi(PM) - that will take you 35-40%.
Ruto will sweep 60-65%.
In Nairobi - Kikuyus will not accept to miss presidency and nairobi govenorship
So they will run with Kambas - if they back Kalonzo.
If GEMA+Kamba merge they will be very close - maybe 45% - however they dont have good candidate.
Candidates - Tim, Babu and Sakaja - are better - yule Roysambu gives Wamunyoro village tribalist vibe.
Nairobians will not elect village tribalist - Sakaja wins.

If they dont give POOR KALOI the main ticket - Ruto will give Kalonzo deputy - assure him of 2032.
Otherwise it likely Luo will be DPORK - Luhyas happy with PMship/Speakers.

Saturday is key. Raila wins. Ruto takes ODM. April is next. IEBC 7. Ruto has this thing wrapped by APRIL 2025.

What next is clean up Supreme court if need be

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2025, 03:37:44 PM »
Sakaja is spoilt goods. In Nairobi, a serious swing vote has seen county leadership obfuscate tribal and party lines.
 
Sakaja - 699,392 votes; Igathe - 573,516 votes (a margin of 125,876 votes)
Sifuna - 716,876 votes;  Wanjiru - 524,091 votes (a 192,785-vote margin)
Pasaris- 698,929 votes; Omanga 586,246 votes (a 112,683-vote margin)
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2025, 04:00:36 PM »
It depends on candidate against him.
That is how Nairobeans will vote.
Kikuyu Candidate like Gakuya is DOA
And Sakaja wins.

Sakaja is spoilt goods. In Nairobi, a serious swing vote has seen county leadership obfuscate tribal and party lines.
 
Sakaja - 699,392 votes; Igathe - 573,516 votes (a margin of 125,876 votes)
Sifuna - 716,876 votes;  Wanjiru - 524,091 votes (a 192,785-vote margin)
Pasaris- 698,929 votes; Omanga 586,246 votes (a 112,683-vote margin)

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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2025, 05:29:38 PM »
Sifuna would wipe the floor with Sakaja. No way he is going to be the first incumbent to overcome the sentiments of failing to do anything about the 100 year kanairo mess in five years. Already he was stoned in baba's stronghold Toi market Kibera.
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It depends on candidate against him.
That is how Nairobeans will vote.
Kikuyu Candidate like Gakuya is DOA
And Sakaja wins.

Sakaja is spoilt goods. In Nairobi, a serious swing vote has seen county leadership obfuscate tribal and party lines.
 
Sakaja - 699,392 votes; Igathe - 573,516 votes (a margin of 125,876 votes)
Sifuna - 716,876 votes;  Wanjiru - 524,091 votes (a 192,785-vote margin)
Pasaris- 698,929 votes; Omanga 586,246 votes (a 112,683-vote margin)
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Sakaja need to invest in goons
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2025, 06:20:12 PM »
Kidero and Sonko governed peacefully by having shovel-ready goons!
The future belongs to those who have a quarter of the character and integrity of RV Heavy Hitter!

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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2025, 12:02:58 AM »
Kidero benefitted from the swing vote as they thought he is better thug with a tie unlike chokora Waititu and urinated only it to be whipped by Sonko.

Sonko is the best ngavana Kanairo never had as he was hounded by ufool.

Kidero and Sonko governed peacefully by having shovel-ready goons!
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Re: Sakaja dumps Ruto.UDA dead.
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2025, 01:18:08 AM »
Too early i guess. Will ODM disintegrate? Will ODM-UDA coalition stick? Where will Kalonzo be?

Riggy has huge beef with Sakaja but I wouldn't be surprised if slimy Sakaja cozy up to him in case of Ruto-Raila fallout.
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