Kabete MP bites the dust/bullets in CBD..let the speculation begin

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Entrance holes


So,between the first and this, which one best matches your optical illusion?

Am still waiting for examples of entrance and exit shots off windshields. Am sure Christ will be back before you get them. Which negro wants to admit to bullshitting?

Those look like what I imagine exit holes would look.  The dents are outwards.  They even have shadows suggesting the same.  It's the opposite on Muchai's car.  Even though I have allowed for optical illusions.

Whatever type those holes(Muchai's car) are.  One is left with anything between 4 shots from back and front to 2 shots from the front exiting in the back.  I tip my hat off to the tomato distributor.  If other shots were made, they don't hit the car.

Those look like holes in a wall.  A completely different material.  My guess would be these are entry holes.   

If the purpose of such an exercise escapes me, there is still a chance someone will give you examples of exit and entry holes. If you wait long enough.  Stranger things have happened.

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Entrance holes on a car frame. The only different thing here is the color, White and green. White color evokes optical illusions of exit holes while green/brown produces entrance holes. Colors are funny or it's Negro trying his hand at amateur theorizing. Not bad coming from a nation with an average IQ of 72

Those look like holes in a wall.  A completely different material.  My guess would be these are entry holes.   

If the purpose of such an exercise escapes me, there is still a chance someone will give you examples of exit and entry holes. If you wait long enough.  Stranger things have happened.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Entrance holes on a car frame. The only different thing here is the color, brown and green. Brown color evokes optical illusions of entrance holes while green produces exit holes. Colors are funny or it's Negro trying his hand at amateur theorizing. Not bad coming from a nation with an average IQ of 72

Those look like holes in a wall.  A completely different material.  My guess would be these are entry holes.   

If the purpose of such an exercise escapes me, there is still a chance someone will give you examples of exit and entry holes. If you wait long enough.  Stranger things have happened.

So we are in agreement.  I just go by the inward pointing dents.  Much like the ones in Muchai's car. 

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Please do, as long as you find such. You have none nowhere on the car. The windshield hole is neither inward nor outward.

Marry Google for a few hours and study bullet holes in glass

Entrance holes on a car frame. The only different thing here is the color, brown and green. Brown color evokes optical illusions of entrance holes while green produces exit holes. Colors are funny or it's Negro trying his hand at amateur theorizing. Not bad coming from a nation with an average IQ of 72

Those look like holes in a wall.  A completely different material.  My guess would be these are entry holes.   

If the purpose of such an exercise escapes me, there is still a chance someone will give you examples of exit and entry holes. If you wait long enough.  Stranger things have happened.

So we are in agreement.  I just go by the inward pointing dents.  Much like the ones in Muchai's car. 

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Please do, as long as you find such. You have none nowhere on the car. The windshield hole is neither inward nor outward.

Marry Google for a few hours and study bullet holes in glass

Entrance holes on a car frame. The only different thing here is the color, brown and green. Brown color evokes optical illusions of entrance holes while green produces exit holes. Colors are funny or it's Negro trying his hand at amateur theorizing. Not bad coming from a nation with an average IQ of 72

Those look like holes in a wall.  A completely different material.  My guess would be these are entry holes.   

If the purpose of such an exercise escapes me, there is still a chance someone will give you examples of exit and entry holes. If you wait long enough.  Stranger things have happened.

So we are in agreement.  I just go by the inward pointing dents.  Much like the ones in Muchai's car. 

In the rear windshield of Muchai's car I see an, if inescapable, ever so slight dent.  Inwards.  Like something pushed it in.

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OK. I don't see nothing. Get better shots and show me how an exiting hole should look like

Meanwhile,
the suspects are giving conflicting accounts
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/campus/story/2000152249/suspects-give-conflicting-accounts-on-muchai-murder

In the rear windshield of Muchai's car I see an, if inescapable, ever so slight dent.  Inwards.  Like something pushed it in.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

OK. I don't see nothing. Get better shots and show me how an exiting hole should look like

Meanwhile,
the suspects are giving conflicting accounts
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/campus/story/2000152249/suspects-give-conflicting-accounts-on-muchai-murder

In the rear windshield of Muchai's car I see an, if inescapable, ever so slight dent.  Inwards.  Like something pushed it in.

That's the best I can see.  I don't rule out an optical aberration.  If you look at the shadow around the hole, I am thinking that could also be caused by a reflection of something else, the detective perhaps.  That could explain the apparent indentation.

I am not surprised by the witness accounts contradictions.  While I don't know what that means, it's consistent with Kenya police investigations on such cases.  They cloud rather than shed light on the question.

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That's the best I can see.  I don't rule out an optical aberration.  If you look at the shadow around the hole, I am thinking that could also be caused by a reflection of something else, the detective perhaps.  That could explain the apparent indentation.

No problem, it may as well have been an entrance hole. Note I ruled it as inconclusive on the visuals and I favor exiting on the circumstance; what was they shooting at from the back which clearly came AFTER the front shots?

What am certain is the hole on the metallic part was made by an exiting bullet. It may have been fired from the door windows and not necessarily the front

I am not surprised by the witness accounts contradictions.  While I don't know what that means, it's consistent with Kenya police investigations on such cases.  They cloud rather than shed light on the question.

The problem with this story is it is all from anonymous sources supposedly within the force. So we could be arguing about the implausibility of some BS

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

That's the best I can see.  I don't rule out an optical aberration.  If you look at the shadow around the hole, I am thinking that could also be caused by a reflection of something else, the detective perhaps.  That could explain the apparent indentation.

No problem, it may as well have been an entrance hole. Note I ruled it as inconclusive on the visuals and I favor exiting on the circumstance; what was they shooting at from the back which clearly came AFTER the front shots?

What am certain is the hole on the metallic part was made by an exiting bullet. It may have been fired from the door windows and not necessarily the front

I am not surprised by the witness accounts contradictions.  While I don't know what that means, it's consistent with Kenya police investigations on such cases.  They cloud rather than shed light on the question.

The problem with this story is it is all from anonymous sources supposedly within the force. So we could be arguing about the implausibility of some BS

About the story(ies).  These have been doing the rounds for days.  Without any denial from CID or Kenya police. 

For a police force that will arrest a blogger in Mombasa and drive him to Nairobi for writing about corruption in Isiolo, I take their silence as tacit approval of the stories.

We could be dealing with a police force that releases these stories to test the waters.  What people might bite and what they will see as outright BS.

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Or they are just fed up with media's incessant gossip. At some point there was some glaring contradictions.
They don't want to keep on denying, clarifying, pointing out....Did the police confirm that the four was taken out with double-taps?

make what you will out of it but it is nothing more than speculation until officially confirmed. For instance, 3 of the suspects was ex-cons thus saith Muhoro

"We have their profiles, which are interesting and good for our case. They are former convicts," said CID boss Ndegwa Muhoro.

Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000152309/three-kenyan-mp-murder-suspects-are-ex-convicts

About the story(ies).  These have been doing the rounds for days.  Without any denial from CID or Kenya police. 

For a police force that will arrest a blogger in Mombasa and drive him to Nairobi for writing about corruption in Isiolo, I take their silence as tacit approval of the stories.

We could be dealing with a police force that releases these stories to test the waters.  What people might bite and what they will see as outright BS.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Or they are just fed up with media's incessant gossip. At some point there was some glaring contradictions.
They don't want to keep on denying, clarifying, pointing out....Did the police confirm that the four was taken out with double-taps?

make what you will out of it but it is nothing more than speculation until officially confirmed. For instance, 3 of the suspects was ex-cons thus saith Muhoro

"We have their profiles, which are interesting and good for our case. They are former convicts," said CID boss Ndegwa Muhoro.

Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000152309/three-kenyan-mp-murder-suspects-are-ex-convicts

About the story(ies).  These have been doing the rounds for days.  Without any denial from CID or Kenya police. 

For a police force that will arrest a blogger in Mombasa and drive him to Nairobi for writing about corruption in Isiolo, I take their silence as tacit approval of the stories.

We could be dealing with a police force that releases these stories to test the waters.  What people might bite and what they will see as outright BS.

I don't buy the fed up angle.  They are feeding the media with the BS. 

It's what Ndegwa Muhoro bought 22 days for.  Despite all the incriminating evidence they claim to have.

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Claims of tons of  'incriminating evidence' is BS as well. Drop selective amnesia

I don't buy the fed up angle.  They are feeding the media with the BS. 

It's what Ndegwa Muhoro bought 22 days for.  Despite all the incriminating evidence they claim to have.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

the tons of  'incriminating evidence' is BS as well. Drop selective amnesia

I don't buy the fed up angle.  They are feeding the media with the BS. 

It's what Ndegwa Muhoro bought 22 days for.  Despite all the incriminating evidence they claim to have.

The stories relating to artefacts from the crime scene in possession of the suspects aren't media BS. They were used in court to secure the suspects in custody.

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You will notice all official narratives make sense, lots of sense. Not so with these sensational BS from 'negro who is not authorized to talk to the media'. So am blaming the media for BS not them anonymous sources.

Look at this reporting closely;

police added.

Mr Muchai was buried at his home in Kamulu on Friday.

http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/George-Muchai-Burial-Arrest-Police-Investigation/-/1950946/2623380/-/format/xhtml/-/14g9bk1/-/index.html

What part of this do you dispute or find contradictory here or elsewhere?

The stories relating to artefacts from the crime scene in possession of the suspects aren't media BS. They were used in court to secure the suspects in custody.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

You will notice all official narratives make sense, lots of sense. Not so with these sensational BS from 'negro who is not authorized to talk to the media'. So am blaming the media for BS not them anonymous sources.

Look at this reporting closely;

police added.

Mr Muchai was buried at his home in Kamulu on Friday.

http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/George-Muchai-Burial-Arrest-Police-Investigation/-/1950946/2623380/-/format/xhtml/-/14g9bk1/-/index.html

What part of this do you dispute or find contradictory here or elsewhere?

The stories relating to artefacts from the crime scene in possession of the suspects aren't media BS. They were used in court to secure the suspects in custody.

I have already seen the official allegations.  My point is that there is no official denial of the stories in the star.  It is just one story, perhaps two.  That is why I don't buy the fed up angle.  They can easily deny them if they don't approve them.

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I can't possibly count official denials of the unofficial sources' narratives on the investigations I would expect from them cops. Can you?

Denial works either way. When somebody is very close to the truth, you can deny or offer alternative explanation to throw them off or you can keep mum hoping they will forget. Or simply ignore them and continue working. In short, extracting truth from their silence is BS

I have already seen the official allegations.  My point is that there is no official denial of the stories in the star.  It is just one story, perhaps two.  That is why I don't buy the fed up angle.  They can easily deny them if they don't approve them.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

I can't possibly count official denials of the unofficial sources' narratives on the investigations I would expect from them cops. Can you?

I have already seen the official allegations.  My point is that there is no official denial of the stories in the star.  It is just one story, perhaps two.  That is why I don't buy the fed up angle.  They can easily deny them if they don't approve them.

I have counted zero. 

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Denial works either way. When somebody is very close to the truth, you can deny or offer alternative explanation to throw them off or you can keep mum hoping they will forget. Or simply ignore them and continue working. In short, extracting truth from their silence is BS

I have already seen the official allegations.  My point is that there is no official denial of the stories in the star.  It is just one story, perhaps two.  That is why I don't buy the fed up angle.  They can easily deny them if they don't approve them.

I don't buy that angle.  An argument can be made for such stories jeopardizing investigations.  Any unauthorized release by detectives close to the investigations that is not denied is officially sanctioned BS.

The fed up argument could have some legs if the source is less mainstream than the star.

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Why did they pull it down?

I don't buy that angle.  An argument can be made for such stories jeopardizing investigations.  Any unauthorized release by detectives close to the investigations that is not denied is officially sanctioned BS.

The fed up argument could have some legs if the source is less mainstream than the star.

[mya88]

Ati we have suspects......All these people being paraded infront of the media are small time thugs. There is a single asassin/sniper, a really good one, not sure its even a Kenyan....... who carried out this hit at the behest of another person who most likely is know and who Muchai posed a direct threat to. A threat so serious he had to die.....All these senastionalism news is just to keep the gullible lazy media busy. This Kenyan media kweli....I was shocked the other day they paraded a chokora found with some cell phone belonging to a victim and charged him in court with murder.....meanwhile the chokora had no clue what was happeneing or why he was even in court. I felt sorry for him....people whose life do not mean much and can be used and abused and disposed off like trash....justice Kenyan style.