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Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« on: October 09, 2024, 10:28:37 PM »
I do not have the brain space to listen to the impeachment proceedings.  This is a personal vendetta pursued by Ruto and full of gossip, back stabbing, illiterate MP"s yelling, thieves and thugs running their mouths off in parliament and all manner and forms of political nonsense.

My fellow Kenyans, Africans are finished because we can't seem to focus on science, engineering or mathematics. Elon Musk is building a spaceship to Mars; making electric cars; Apple is approaching one trillion dollars in revenues; Mzungu's are making micro-chips, robots, finding cures for cancer, for genetic disorders and here we are talking about mrima, malaya's, finishing people, etc

My advice to any young kenyans aged between 18 to 30 is this:

100% find a way to immigrate and get the hell out of Africa. If you can get to the US, do it. If not follow this template:

2nd choice: Eastern Europe (Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary ....these countries are not as liberal as the western european countries and are engaged in manufacturing)

3rd Choice: Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia...as manufacturing moves away from China, these countries will gain)

4th Choice: The middle East, but the more modern countries like the UAE, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait) - You are better off in one of these places than being stuck jobless in kenya for most of your life.

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2024, 11:31:48 PM »
Africa is where dreams die. Cesspit, shithole and anything else you can think of along those lines. I pity young people here. I wish they knew how much more life has to offer beyond cheap alcohol and cheap sex.  Africa is only good as a retirement place. As a retiree you can do a lot for cheap.

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2024, 11:39:28 PM »
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Africa is only good as a retirement place. As a retiree you can do a lot for cheap.

Not if you end up with a medical condition.  Look at the mess with SHIF (people can't even get dialysis!!)

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2024, 11:52:35 PM »
You need money to immigrate from 200k Middle East or 500k to Europe or USA.some people don't have access to that money while nations globally are tightening immigration rules for Africans.so not all of us will be lucky.

Secondly,I think we have millions of Kenyans between 20-35 years.Maybe 10mn?20mn?They can't all immigrate.

In such a situation where we have a few rich people and majority poor,the country will plunge to anarchy.

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2024, 12:05:27 AM »
I do not have the brain space to listen to the impeachment proceedings.  This is a personal vendetta pursued by Ruto and full of gossip, back stabbing, illiterate MP"s yelling, thieves and thugs running their mouths off in parliament and all manner and forms of political nonsense.

My fellow Kenyans, Africans are finished because we can't seem to focus on science, engineering or mathematics. Elon Musk is building a spaceship to Mars; making electric cars; Apple is approaching one trillion dollars in revenues; Mzungu's are making micro-chips, robots, finding cures for cancer, for genetic disorders and here we are talking about mrima, malaya's, finishing people, etc

My advice to any young kenyans aged between 18 to 30 is this:

100% find a way to immigrate and get the hell out of Africa. If you can get to the US, do it. If not follow this template:

2nd choice: Eastern Europe (Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary ....these countries are not as liberal as the western european countries and are engaged in manufacturing)

3rd Choice: Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia...as manufacturing moves away from China, these countries will gain)

4th Choice: The middle East, but the more modern countries like the UAE, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait) - You are better off in one of these places than being stuck jobless in kenya for most of your life.

Waste time on such crap while there is 60% unemploymnet.
Imagine if Jomo had put the necessary foundation like S Korea leader did??
We could be on top, but we are still talking tribal politics. CRAP!!!
A simple policy like building septic systems can employ millions, but NO we are talking tribal, while urinating all over.

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2024, 12:22:28 AM »
Health care in Kenya is affordable as long as you have money. Go for physical checkup religiously. Major medical issue like hip replacement head back to states or India. Things like dialysis you can install them in your house and have 3 or 4 nurses. Monthly wages for 3 nurse equivalent to what you would pay for a office visit  states. 

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Africa is only good as a retirement place. As a retiree you can do a lot for cheap.

Not if you end up with a medical condition.  Look at the mess with SHIF (people can't even get dialysis!!)

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2024, 10:33:33 AM »
This makes great economic sense if you can have the nurses take care of a friend or two at a fee. Bora wasilete ukora.

Health care in Kenya is affordable as long as you have money. Go for physical checkup religiously. Major medical issue like hip replacement head back to states or India. Things like dialysis you can install them in your house and have 3 or 4 nurses. Monthly wages for 3 nurse equivalent to what you would pay for a office visit  states. 

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Africa is only good as a retirement place. As a retiree you can do a lot for cheap.

Not if you end up with a medical condition.  Look at the mess with SHIF (people can't even get dialysis!!)
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2024, 12:15:02 PM »
During Jommos time Factories were up and running . This was destroyed during Moi time .


I do not have the brain space to listen to the impeachment proceedings.  This is a personal vendetta pursued by Ruto and full of gossip, back stabbing, illiterate MP"s yelling, thieves and thugs running their mouths off in parliament and all manner and forms of political nonsense.

My fellow Kenyans, Africans are finished because we can't seem to focus on science, engineering or mathematics. Elon Musk is building a spaceship to Mars; making electric cars; Apple is approaching one trillion dollars in revenues; Mzungu's are making micro-chips, robots, finding cures for cancer, for genetic disorders and here we are talking about mrima, malaya's, finishing people, etc

My advice to any young kenyans aged between 18 to 30 is this:

100% find a way to immigrate and get the hell out of Africa. If you can get to the US, do it. If not follow this template:

2nd choice: Eastern Europe (Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary ....these countries are not as liberal as the western european countries and are engaged in manufacturing)

3rd Choice: Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia...as manufacturing moves away from China, these countries will gain)

4th Choice: The middle East, but the more modern countries like the UAE, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait) - You are better off in one of these places than being stuck jobless in kenya for most of your life.

Waste time on such crap while there is 60% unemploymnet.
Imagine if Jomo had put the necessary foundation like S Korea leader did??
We could be on top, but we are still talking tribal politics. CRAP!!!
A simple policy like building septic systems can employ millions, but NO we are talking tribal, while urinating all over.

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2024, 12:57:39 PM »
Most EAC assets inherited from beberu were in Kenya. Right now power in TZ and UG is damn cheaper than kwinya thus their manufacturing capacities for their local markets  have gradually stopped Kenyan exports. All the companies were EA something.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1277594/household-electricity-prices-in-africa-by-country/

During Jommos time Factories were up and running. This was destroyed during Moi time .


I do not have the brain space to listen to the impeachment proceedings.  This is a personal vendetta pursued by Ruto and full of gossip, back stabbing, illiterate MP"s yelling, thieves and thugs running their mouths off in parliament and all manner and forms of political nonsense.

My fellow Kenyans, Africans are finished because we can't seem to focus on science, engineering or mathematics. Elon Musk is building a spaceship to Mars; making electric cars; Apple is approaching one trillion dollars in revenues; Mzungu's are making micro-chips, robots, finding cures for cancer, for genetic disorders and here we are talking about mrima, malaya's, finishing people, etc

My advice to any young kenyans aged between 18 to 30 is this:

100% find a way to immigrate and get the hell out of Africa. If you can get to the US, do it. If not follow this template:

2nd choice: Eastern Europe (Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary ....these countries are not as liberal as the western european countries and are engaged in manufacturing)

3rd Choice: Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia...as manufacturing moves away from China, these countries will gain)

4th Choice: The middle East, but the more modern countries like the UAE, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait) - You are better off in one of these places than being stuck jobless in kenya for most of your life.

Waste time on such crap while there is 60% unemploymnet.
Imagine if Jomo had put the necessary foundation like S Korea leader did??
We could be on top, but we are still talking tribal politics. CRAP!!!
A simple policy like building septic systems can employ millions, but NO we are talking tribal, while urinating all over.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2024, 01:35:41 PM »
Kenya is on the mend.
Things are happening.
Reforms are being rolled out.

Harvesting time bado.

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2024, 02:19:54 PM »
Most EAC assets inherited from beberu were in Kenya. Right now power in TZ and UG is damn cheaper than kwinya thus their manufacturing capacities for their local markets  have gradually stopped Kenyan exports. All the companies were EA something.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1277594/household-electricity-prices-in-africa-by-country/

During Jommos time Factories were up and running. This was destroyed during Moi time .


I do not have the brain space to listen to the impeachment proceedings.  This is a personal vendetta pursued by Ruto and full of gossip, back stabbing, illiterate MP"s yelling, thieves and thugs running their mouths off in parliament and all manner and forms of political nonsense.

My fellow Kenyans, Africans are finished because we can't seem to focus on science, engineering or mathematics. Elon Musk is building a spaceship to Mars; making electric cars; Apple is approaching one trillion dollars in revenues; Mzungu's are making micro-chips, robots, finding cures for cancer, for genetic disorders and here we are talking about mrima, malaya's, finishing people, etc

My advice to any young kenyans aged between 18 to 30 is this:

100% find a way to immigrate and get the hell out of Africa. If you can get to the US, do it. If not follow this template:

2nd choice: Eastern Europe (Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary ....these countries are not as liberal as the western european countries and are engaged in manufacturing)

3rd Choice: Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia...as manufacturing moves away from China, these countries will gain)

4th Choice: The middle East, but the more modern countries like the UAE, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait) - You are better off in one of these places than being stuck jobless in kenya for most of your life.

Waste time on such crap while there is 60% unemploymnet.
Imagine if Jomo had put the necessary foundation like S Korea leader did??
We could be on top, but we are still talking tribal politics. CRAP!!!
A simple policy like building septic systems can employ millions, but NO we are talking tribal, while urinating all over.

Poor leadership based on tribal economics.
Alliance Schools buildings have never been upgraded since 1963

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2024, 05:13:15 PM »
we have failed to build a nation, we are still as tribal as our grandfathers. I don't blame myself , i blame the leaders particularly Kenyatta, he saw the developed world, lived and  stayed there for more than almost 20 years in London and came back as Mau Mau "leader" and what he brought as gift from London was tribalism.

On the other hand Tanzania, had Nyerere, went to Moscow and he managed to build a nation.

If the Western world fails tomorrow, Kenya as a country will not exist. It will be cannibalized by Ethiopia, Uganda and Somalia.

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2024, 06:18:38 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2024, 06:48:45 PM »
This is why Moi was necessary. He perfectly answered the question of whether to build a million classes across Kenya or upgrade 10 elitist national schools nearly all in Nairobi Metro.



Poor leadership based on tribal economics.
Alliance Schools buildings have never been upgraded since 1963
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2024, 07:40:10 PM »
This is why Moi was necessary. He perfectly answered the question of whether to build a million classes across Kenya or upgrade 10 elitist national schools nearly all in Nairobi Metro.



Poor leadership based on tribal economics.
Alliance Schools buildings have never been upgraded since 1963

In the end nothing good has ever been bult. Thats why the $10k/semester schools are flourishing.

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2024, 06:07:09 AM »
Kenya is on the mend.
Things are happening.
Reforms are being rolled out.

Harvesting time bado.

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Kenya has stagnated really badly because:

1. Agriculture is dead

2. Education is dead

3. Healthcare is dead

4. Infrastructure is dead

5. Production is dead

6. Judiciary is dead

7. Manufacturing is dead

8. Logistics and transportation is dead

9. Security is dead

10. Services sector is dead

11. Real Estate is dead

12. Exports are dead

13. Inflation is high

14. There is no enough food

15. Water has become the preserve of the rich

So much is dead in Kenya but we have refused to have this conversation and what the resolutions to all these should be.

Things are not going ruto's way.

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Re: Kenya & Africa Are Write Off's for the next 100 years
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2024, 10:46:48 PM »
Just look at what happened in South Africa. After Mandela they resorted back to Zim style rule. Middle class is struggling if it exists, and the poor are even worse off. Policies are secondary instead of primary. The rich are EXTREMELY COMFORTABLE. Sound familiar!!!