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Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« on: July 24, 2024, 01:40:03 PM »
What a let down , makes Uhuru look like a political genious .He just made Raila happy and never ceded any CS post
It took Genz for Ruto to give Raila CS posts and this is the start of end of his regime .


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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2024, 01:46:32 PM »
https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/news/east-africa/ruto-no-handshake-with-raila-4184872?view=htmlamp



Speaking Tuesday at a joint press conference with his Rwandan host Paul Kagame, President Ruto said he was offering an environment for the opposition to check his government "without throwing stone".

“As president, I owe it to the people of Kenya to provide leadership,” he said in Kigali, while responding to a journalist’s question on whether he will have a handshake with Mr Odinga.

“I want to tell you, there will be no handshake. But there will be an engagement in parliament on the issues that have been raised in parliament.”

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2024, 02:03:32 PM »
Different times.
1st term - Ruto was co-president or president
2nd term- Uhuru promised Raila presidency
Ruto cannot promise Raila presidency
He has to give him something

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2024, 02:04:09 PM »
Serious let down lets see how Abdi Pundit spins it,
At the look of things Ruto will struggle to get to even end of this term or this year to say the least,
Recipe for chaos as Baba cant even control his base with the appointments,
Are we headed for anarchy and civil strife?? KDF to take over??
Gen z will be annoyed by this.
DISASTER!

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2024, 02:18:45 PM »
Goon Z are done.

We just have watch for 2002 - where ODM come and desrtroy our party - we must make sure Raila is stuck in Adis and happy

And we will work on Uhuru kenyatta

Serious let down lets see how Abdi Pundit spins it,
At the look of things Ruto will struggle to get to even end of this term or this year to say the least,
Recipe for chaos as Baba cant even control his base with the appointments,
Are we headed for anarchy and civil strife?? KDF to take over??
Gen z will be annoyed by this.
DISASTER!

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2024, 02:29:11 PM »

Already Done , Ruto just added another dissent to him , It was GenZ now include GEMA. Ruto will be No 3 come 2027.


Goon Z are done.

We just have watch for 2002 - where ODM come and desrtroy our party - we must make sure Raila is stuck in Adis and happy

And we will work on Uhuru kenyatta

Serious let down lets see how Abdi Pundit spins it,
At the look of things Ruto will struggle to get to even end of this term or this year to say the least,
Recipe for chaos as Baba cant even control his base with the appointments,
Are we headed for anarchy and civil strife?? KDF to take over??
Gen z will be annoyed by this.
DISASTER!

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2024, 02:36:10 PM »
I am not even interested in the tribal angle but this is extremely infuriating. You keep saying the genZees are done, they are not going anywhere. You think this reduces poverty in Kibera, these kids can see through this nonsense, the Moi type politics will not work today no matter how much Ruto tries. If you doubt me, go on social media of your choice, maadamano continues until Ruto listens, this has only added fuel to the fire. Ruto will probably declare a state of emergency soon or set ODM goons and looters against peaceful demonstrations. This will make Nairobi a battleground, horrible image internationally. Madowo is about to earn his keep at CNN. On top of this, it has come out today that they were secretly selling JKIA.



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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2024, 02:45:26 PM »
GEMA you got almost everything - Finance imeenda from GEma - kalenjin lost Energy - because you allow Goon Z to overrun gok.

Goon Z wacha wapigwe sasa na ODM goons.


Already Done , Ruto just added another dissent to him , It was GenZ now include GEMA. Ruto will be No 3 come 2027.


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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2024, 03:32:08 PM »
I am not even interested in the tribal angle but this is extremely infuriating. You keep saying the genZees are done, they are not going anywhere. You think this reduces poverty in Kibera, these kids can see through this nonsense, the Moi type politics will not work today no matter how much Ruto tries. If you doubt me, go on social media of your choice, maadamano continues until Ruto listens, this has only added fuel to the fire. Ruto will probably declare a state of emergency soon or set ODM goons and looters against peaceful demonstrations. This will make Nairobi a battleground, horrible image internationally. Madowo is about to earn his keep at CNN. On top of this, it has come out today that they were secretly selling JKIA.




Lets prep for a worsening economic situation.
You argue like a modern thinker while he argues like a tribal villager.
No regard to the GENzs who have nothing to look forward to.

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2024, 07:35:19 PM »
What an anticlimax…. Useless Cabinet; nothing to celebrate. Is this the best that WSR could get from 50m Kenyans?? These people are only after their stomachs…. Baba has betrayed Kenya!!!

WSR is simply positioning to get the Luos and Luhyas in the next elections…. He will be shocked.

Yeah…. The sad reality!!! The Gen Z had imagined a rebirth, a new Kenya. Unfortunately it is a still born.

You know, even if they told Baba to stay off… they were in reality just posturing expecting he was on their side and would provide a backstop (a voice of caution) in case WSR went full force / rogue on them. That way they were operating with notion of an expected cover from him. Elder statesman. He has betrayed this expectation. Shame on him….

You notice that the moment Baba started wavering, talking of dialogue or broad based conversation is when the protest started to suffer some hiccups or lose momentum.

Had Baba stayed tacitly on their side, we would probably be talking of a transitional government process.

Gen Z’s were also not helped by being intransigent and lacking a “leadership” structure. Obviously WSR wouldn’t wait for them forever. You are going for him, he would activate his survival instincts, apart from holding the instruments of violence! Power abhors a vacuum….

I really pray that Gen Z’s organise themselves well now and kick all of them out at next elections. I am rooting for them.

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2024, 08:41:31 PM »
Pragmatic be Pragmatic for once and admit that Ruto is miles ahead.

Gen Z provided perfect cover for ODM to join GOk otherwise they have been talking for a long time

Raila and Ruto found convinient fools call Gen Z to justify their reason for uniting the country to save it from "anarchy"

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2024, 09:10:36 PM »
When you watch Trump that’s when you realize how fucked up the world has become. Genz don’t want the kind of government when corruption is rampant. They want a fair government where everyone has a chance. Days of tribal politics are over

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2024, 10:27:26 PM »

Raila made a choice , he picked his side . The day election results were announced he had reached out to Ruto for a Broad based government how they like calling it nowadays. Ruto was steadfast after what he experienced with the handshake.
So now they will sleep on their bed. Ruto will be out come 2027 if he will survive until then and Raila will never be the President of Kenya.
Until Economy recovers which at this rate it wont then expect Genz to continue with their clarion calls .

What an anticlimax…. Useless Cabinet; nothing to celebrate. Is this the best that WSR could get from 50m Kenyans?? These people are only after their stomachs…. Baba has betrayed Kenya!!!

WSR is simply positioning to get the Luos and Luhyas in the next elections…. He will be shocked.

Yeah…. The sad reality!!! The Gen Z had imagined a rebirth, a new Kenya. Unfortunately it is a still born.

You know, even if they told Baba to stay off… they were in reality just posturing expecting he was on their side and would provide a backstop (a voice of caution) in case WSR went full force / rogue on them. That way they were operating with notion of an expected cover from him. Elder statesman. He has betrayed this expectation. Shame on him….

You notice that the moment Baba started wavering, talking of dialogue or broad based conversation is when the protest started to suffer some hiccups or lose momentum.

Had Baba stayed tacitly on their side, we would probably be talking of a transitional government process.

Gen Z’s were also not helped by being intransigent and lacking a “leadership” structure. Obviously WSR wouldn’t wait for them forever. You are going for him, he would activate his survival instincts, apart from holding the instruments of violence! Power abhors a vacuum….

I really pray that Gen Z’s organise themselves well now and kick all of them out at next elections. I am rooting for them.

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2024, 10:29:01 PM »
Miles ahead in what ? You are the people who were preaching and misleading Ruto that he is invincible .Look where he is now …..

Pragmatic be Pragmatic for once and admit that Ruto is miles ahead.

Gen Z provided perfect cover for ODM to join GOk otherwise they have been talking for a long time

Raila and Ruto found convinient fools call Gen Z to justify their reason for uniting the country to save it from "anarchy"

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2024, 02:45:44 AM »
Ruto is a captive of his political upbringing, it’s either bribe, divide of beat to submission also known as Moi error. This is not going to work today, it may give him some breathing space but it’s kicking the can down the road. The Moi error politics are not going to work in 2027, money or tribe is not going to matter. Politicians like let’s say Babu can raise money from the grassroots like they do here in USA, small donations add up to big numbers. If this kids can be able to neutralize big money, then they can end the politics of tribe and thievery. People like Raila will never change, tribal merchants, it’s time for young Luos to tell him to take a hike after all, how much time does he have on this earth, the kids and the new Kenya way of thinking will outlive all these people. I want one person here on this site, speaking deep from their heart  tell me that they are excited about Joho finding his way back in the cabinet.

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Re: Ruto Catapults on His No Handshake Government
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2024, 04:06:10 AM »
Ruto is a captive of his political upbringing, it’s either bribe, divide of beat to submission also known as Moi error. This is not going to work today, it may give him some breathing space but it’s kicking the can down the road. The Moi error politics are not going to work in 2027, money or tribe is not going to matter. Politicians like let’s say Babu can raise money from the grassroots like they do here in USA, small donations add up to big numbers. If this kids can be able to neutralize big money, then they can end the politics of tribe and thievery. People like Raila will never change, tribal merchants, it’s time for young Luos to tell him to take a hike after all, how much time does he have on this earth, the kids and the new Kenya way of thinking will outlive all these people. I want one person here on this site, speaking deep from their heart  tell me that they are excited about Joho finding his way back in the cabinet.

Recycling JoHo!!!
PPle want accountacbility, not tribal politics.
Even USA whites lost patience with trump party and his Moi style leadership
Same thing happened in UK.