Author Topic: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves  (Read 2121 times)

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Ruto says its either 2 things Raise Taxes or borrow more . This is where Ruto went wrong .
When he came to power his first thing to do would have do Debt Audit , He would have found out 70% of the money borrowed went to new money Billionares and secondly he would have gone for that money stolen where it is …
The more money he borrows the more money will be stolen without debt audit ……
I voted for Ruto I wanted him to become the President ,I know where Kenya is in terms of debt ,his approach has been wrong , he has a new opportunity let him utilize it now or go to the drain ……

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Re: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2024, 08:57:10 PM »
He does not get it. Cut cut cut cut spending on everything. MPIGS need to be paid no more than doctors. Travel spening should be paid by the traveller. If it was necessary then they get reimbursed. executive wives consublnes need no money from budget. No need for half a bill for new vp office. 20 mil is ok.
These people dont get it.
 ant borrow at this time because rates will be astronomical

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Re: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2024, 10:08:03 PM »
He does not get it. Cut cut cut cut spending on everything. MPIGS need to be paid no more than doctors. Travel spening should be paid by the traveller. If it was necessary then they get reimbursed. executive wives consublnes need no money from budget. No need for half a bill for new vp office. 20 mil is ok.
These people dont get it.
 ant borrow at this time because rates will be astronomical

I think he gets this. From what I heard in the interview. Sounds like he will change cabinet and cut all unnecessary stuff. But it is not enough. Our deficit is in the trillions. What he is not willing to do is recover the lost trillions from thieves because he is one, too. He knows it will turn all the politicians against him. Just like they turned on Uhuru when he tried. If he had tried to be a dictator in this way (forcing folk to return the loot, at least half per person) these same tois on the streets would be his army but he might have other problems. Only a new president without political milage or baggage in Kenya would be able to pull this off. Someone with Rutos ruthlessness but none of his baggage. But in Kenya, newbies don't survive.

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Re: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2024, 07:25:25 AM »
Audit and State capture thing is ABOUT SHAMING - otherwise let not cheat ourselves recovering money will be a long legal battle.

Unless ARA - was to go on asset seizure - the money has been cleaned and washed - and cannot be recovered legally.

Miguna Miguna would have been ideal to shame these guys.

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Re: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2024, 10:01:10 AM »
You write here as if he was not part of the looting crew. Where did he get his billions if not from the state coffers?
Ruto is in a catch 22 situation. He cannot rock the foundation of the system that brought him where he is today. He and his henchmen were out to loot the country dry. How can he fire his fellow looters?

Ruto says its either 2 things Raise Taxes or borrow more . This is where Ruto went wrong .
When he came to power his first thing to do would have do Debt Audit , He would have found out 70% of the money borrowed went to new money Billionares and secondly he would have gone for that money stolen where it is …
The more money he borrows the more money will be stolen without debt audit ……
I voted for Ruto I wanted him to become the President ,I know where Kenya is in terms of debt ,his approach has been wrong , he has a new opportunity let him utilize it now or go to the drain ……

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Re: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2024, 10:38:00 AM »
Kenya can only be saved in this manner . Ofcourse not all money can be recovered but the exercise it self will stop the grand corruption which has become a Norm.
If the money has been converted in assests the better Kibaki did that with Grand Regency get the assests sell them and use the money to pay debt .
Otherwise the notion of borrowing again to loot wont auger well with Kenyans eventually they will come for the looters by themselves and instead of using the looted assests well they will make them into ruins .
Once you have the population behind you it is possible .

Audit and State capture thing is ABOUT SHAMING - otherwise let not cheat ourselves recovering money will be a long legal battle.

Unless ARA - was to go on asset seizure - the money has been cleaned and washed - and cannot be recovered legally.

Miguna Miguna would have been ideal to shame these guys.

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Re: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2024, 10:40:17 AM »
He has been part of the system but still he is possible to recover part of the money .
Many Presidents have done it before .

Take for example about Harambees in church Ruto used to be the kingpin in that but now he is against it .

You write here as if he was not part of the looting crew. Where did he get his billions if not from the state coffers?
Ruto is in a catch 22 situation. He cannot rock the foundation of the system that brought him where he is today. He and his henchmen were out to loot the country dry. How can he fire his fellow looters?

Ruto says its either 2 things Raise Taxes or borrow more . This is where Ruto went wrong .
When he came to power his first thing to do would have do Debt Audit , He would have found out 70% of the money borrowed went to new money Billionares and secondly he would have gone for that money stolen where it is …
The more money he borrows the more money will be stolen without debt audit ……
I voted for Ruto I wanted him to become the President ,I know where Kenya is in terms of debt ,his approach has been wrong , he has a new opportunity let him utilize it now or go to the drain ……

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Re: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2024, 11:49:19 AM »
Unless we go for illegal stuff or ARA ask them to justify how they acquired wealth - its hard to see how we can legally recovered trillions from Mois and Kenyattas and Ndegwas.

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Re: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2024, 11:53:15 AM »
.... and Rutos!

There is the hitch. You cannot go for uhuru Kenyatta without going for Ruto. Hiyo sahahu!

Unless we go for illegal stuff or ARA ask them to justify how they acquired wealth - its hard to see how we can legally recovered trillions from Mois and Kenyattas and Ndegwas.

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Re: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2024, 11:56:12 AM »
He only spoke about it recently when Gen Zs were on his neck. Otherwise it is a law, no state officials are allowed to preside over harambees. Gachagua was recently in Baringo doing exactly that.

He has been part of the system but still he is possible to recover part of the money .
Many Presidents have done it before .

Take for example about Harambees in church Ruto used to be the kingpin in that but now he is against it .

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Re: Listened to Ruto - He is wrong , Do Debt Audit , Go For Debt Thieves
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2024, 07:35:58 AM »
You write here as if he was not part of the looting crew. Where did he get his billions if not from the state coffers?
Ruto is in a catch 22 situation. He cannot rock the foundation of the system that brought him where he is today. He and his henchmen were out to loot the country dry. How can he fire his fellow looters?

Blathees and sistes

This is one of the most brilliant comments in Nipate history. Pay keen attention to it live live.

6.6 trillion looted since 2013 from the national coffers by "mademoni" aka "shadowy forces" aka "the true neocolonial rulers of Kenya."

Our good buddy Ruto will never say as much of as a squeak about it! He was a beneficiary of it (mademoni) who handed him the seat on a silver platter through the muscular butch-bodied Ambassador Meg Whitman. Isafact.

The only person talking about it in any depth in the public sphere is Jimi Wanjigi.


Yet not a soul seems to be paying him any attention. Not a soul!!

The auditor general has called it out
The controller of budget has called it out

THIS IS THE REAL SCANDAL OF KENYA'S 61 YEAR HISTORY

Yet a curiously loud general silence remains.

And of course, don't expect the rioters to understand the mysteries of public debt.

Mwabrika has no hope! He is controlled from London, From Paree, From Washington DC. Hajiwesi kapsa kapsaaa.
Made to loot and burn his kaundry over non-issues (corruption has been there since the earth was formed. Corrupt eve looted the tree of the the knowledge of good and evil and the rest is history}. The protesting looters themselves are engaging in corrupt behaviour. Irony or ironies. Protesting corruption corruptly! Isacomedy!

Show me a clean country on earth. Hakuna kapsa. The West has been looting the world forever and still does.
If mwabrika was clever he would understand that burning his country down to dust is possibly the WORST thing he can do in our dire situation.

Does burning it make it better? Of course not.Thankfully, already the Gen-Z genuine protestors are quickly getting religion that this thing is well planned, well financed and well coordinated. They are even coming out to help protect innocent businesses and saying "it's not us who are doing the burning and looting."

And supposing Ruto goes? What next? The looters are stumped. They don't know. Wanajua tu mawe na kuwasha gurudumu.

The military will take over as it does in every single revolution.  Ask Sudan. Ask Libya. Ask Iraq. Ask Syria. Ask Sri Lanka. Ask them all!

Better the devil you know blathees. Don't destroy your country for the same msungus who looted your 6.6 TRILLION in broad daylight!

but mwabrika brain is too small to figure out this global geo-political power play happening in Kiinya sponsored by the mademoni Unyee talked about years back. Ruto is the LEAST of his worries yet the focus of disgruntled Kiinyan mwabrika is hapo hapo.

This is why Mwabrika is a son of poverty, strife, internecine destruction and misery, forever.

ISAPITE!!!!