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what an image ..as much as we will try to shift blame to Mwangi this will trend in the hearts of Kenyans forever and I think globally
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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2015, 03:55:56 PM »
Surely, how do you teargas kids?
Are these people trained in anything except violence?

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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2015, 04:07:37 PM »
This is what Palestine has been doing. That is social blackmail. Kids are not supposed to be hurt so you use them in violent demos

Surely, how do you teargas kids?
Are these people trained in anything except violence?
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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2015, 05:03:32 PM »
This is what Palestine has been doing. That is social blackmail. Kids are not supposed to be hurt so you use them in violent demos

Surely, how do you teargas kids?
Are these people trained in anything except violence?
The comparison does not match. Comparing kids in Paletine to Langata?

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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2015, 05:06:35 PM »
Am am saying is deliberately placing kids in a probable violent situation is blackmail.

You honestly believe kids can bring down that wall?
The comparison does not match. Comparing kids in Paletine to Langata?
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2015, 05:31:04 PM »
They are not only kids but also students of the school whose land has been grabbed,they had to fight for their rights and the public had to give them a helping hand physically and through social media,

Without Prejudice.

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2015, 05:36:40 PM »
Overzealous cops who felt the need to protect WSR grabbed hotel parking lot couldn't stop at nothing.Not even under 10 kids.

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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2015, 05:38:47 PM »
That is the nature of work..of a cop. Be it Kenya cops or Isrealis or me or you. You cannot blow away a hse to kill mosquito just because the mosquito is hidding in the house.

This is lack of imagination from cops. At worse criminal unreasonable use of force.

Am am saying is deliberately placing kids in a probable violent situation is blackmail.

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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015, 06:23:32 PM »
So your guy Ruto still has big appetite for mashamba? Atleast I thought after the Muteshi saga he had learnt his lesson but alas.

Ruto should go for other invisible deals like the coal fired ppower plant in Lamu which Chris Kirubi bagged. These are more lucrative but require more imagination which seems to be lacking in RV.

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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2015, 06:27:26 PM »
How does Kirubi  smart or Ruto dumb corrupt ways represent Rv or GEMA. Go slow on tribalism when you check into our sitting room and feel free to resume the usual mode once you're inside the toilet.com.

Yes the optics are not good for Ruto.

So your guy Ruto still has big appetite for mashamba? Atleast I thought after the Muteshi saga he had learnt his lesson but alas.

Ruto should go for other invisible deals like the coal fired ppower plant in Lamu which Chris Kirubi bagged. These are more lucrative but require more imagination which seems to be lacking in RV.

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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015, 07:12:45 PM »
So your guy Ruto still has big appetite for mashamba? Atleast I thought after the Muteshi saga he had learnt his lesson but alas.

Ruto should go for other invisible deals like the coal fired ppower plant in Lamu which Chris Kirubi bagged. These are more lucrative but require more imagination which seems to be lacking in RV.
Welcome aboard, Kadudu. I see you couldn't resist our chill-out ways over here. On behalf of Brynn (where is she?) grab yourself a drink, sit, relax.

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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2015, 07:56:14 PM »
You know that he got it having quoted the highest price? And you also know that by that the idea of cheap electricity went through ther window and defeated the entire purpose of the plant?
So your guy Ruto still has big appetite for mashamba? Atleast I thought after the Muteshi saga he had learnt his lesson but alas.

Ruto should go for other invisible deals like the coal fired ppower plant in Lamu which Chris Kirubi bagged. These are more lucrative but require more imagination which seems to be lacking in RV.
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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015, 09:54:18 PM »
This is what Palestine has been doing. That is social blackmail. Kids are not supposed to be hurt so you use them in violent demos

Surely, how do you teargas kids?
Are these people trained in anything except violence?
You really are one hell of a pastor. Is Kenya now Palestine, where children are fair game? Any country that engages in such barbaric acts against children in broad daylight in this time and age, when there isn't any war going on, has no place in modern society. There was nothing violent except for kids being kids until the cops started teargassing them. and to think there is a busy traffic right by the side where kids could run by the road and be mowed down......simply unbelievable.
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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2015, 09:59:04 PM »
What was so urgent that the government could not wait for those kids to go back to class or even go back home in the evening before taking other safer measures to secure the premises. The duo has lost it completely, to allow children to be teargassed just because they want to play.... and that I had to hear this from my local news network is even more amazing. Who does things like this? I don't care if the children were being used as pawn, they are freakin children what the f*ck. This could have been my child. Parents are at work assuming their kids are safe in school....am sure if most new that this was going to happen they would have kept their kids home. vooke drop the idiotic reasoning for one second and try looking at this from a parents perspective. Nothing you can ever explain here justifies this kind of action.
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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2015, 10:28:00 PM »
Omosh, these facts were all published in the local papers but we were told we were just jealous of the "hard working" Chris Kirubi. Atleast Kirubi shows some manners while stealing from public coffers and does not go for such obvious items like mashambas. RV thieves still have a long way to go.


You know that he got it having quoted the highest price? And you also know that by that the idea of cheap electricity went through the window and defeated the entire purpose of the plant?


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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2015, 10:31:35 PM »
Asande  ka-Bella. I am flexible and do not mind discovering new territories.

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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2015, 10:36:48 PM »
mya88,
Attacking kids is barbarism
Mobilizing them to destroy private property is worse.
just for a second imagine if some or even one kid was hit by a car or was crushed by the falling wall. All this in absence of them cops. Who would we be blaming? The grabber or the activists who engaged the kids, or the teachers?

I don't condone the grabbing, in fact I pray that the thugs will have no kids to share their loot with, may it be scattered among their enemies

You really are one hell of a pastor. Is Kenya now Palestine, where children are fair game? Any country that engages in such barbaric acts against children in broad daylight in this time and age, when there isn't any war going on, has no place in modern society. There was nothing violent except for kids being kids until the cops started teargassing them. and to think there is a busy traffic right by the side where kids could run by the road and be mowed down......simply unbelievable.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Lang'ata Primary- Land Grab, school kid teargas - global symbolism
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2015, 11:47:58 PM »
mya88,
Attacking kids is barbarism
Mobilizing them to destroy private property is worse.
just for a second imagine if some or even one kid was hit by a car or was crushed by the falling wall. All this in absence of them cops. Who would we be blaming? The grabber or the activists who engaged the kids, or the teachers?

I don't condone the grabbing, in fact I pray that the thugs will have no kids to share their loot with, may it be scattered among their enemies

You really are one hell of a pastor. Is Kenya now Palestine, where children are fair game? Any country that engages in such barbaric acts against children in broad daylight in this time and age, when there isn't any war going on, has no place in modern society. There was nothing violent except for kids being kids until the cops started teargassing them. and to think there is a busy traffic right by the side where kids could run by the road and be mowed down......simply unbelievable.
The right to protest, demonstrate, complain is enshrined in the Kenyan constitution. 

There are those who believe these kids, among others, have the right to demonstrate peacefully without expecting a violent reaction from any quarters.
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2015, 06:16:22 AM »
Yeah right, including the right to destroy private property

The right to protest, demonstrate, complain is enshrined in the Kenyan constitution. 

There are those who believe these kids, among others, have the right to demonstrate peacefully without expecting a violent reaction from any quarters.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2015, 07:00:17 AM »
vooke how is it private property when it was stolen in the first place?