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Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« on: October 10, 2023, 06:29:17 PM »
1) 2018-2022 Ruto told you that he fell out with Uhuru because of the handshake.BBI is bad.
2 ) 2023 -Raila is good,Gachagua is primitive,We must embrace all leaders.Bomas process.Constitutional amendment loading.
You people need to start thinking.


At statehouse Nairobi,Ruto told Gathoni wamuchoma Githunguri MP not to table any motion on revenue sharing one man one vote.Mtosheke na bursary ya 1000.

Is this not being conned?

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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2023, 06:57:16 PM »
Ruto has not done any handshake with Raila. Raila seem to have silently sold off ODM to Ruto - like I had predicted would happen. That is not the same with handshake. The BBI nonsense is Kalonzo redhering

The reality is that Ruto is too strong and not equal to Gachagua or any Mt kenya leader now.

Mt kenya should bid their time. Anything else is going to be disaster.

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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2023, 09:12:27 PM »
1) 2018-2022 Ruto told you that he fell out with Uhuru because of the handshake.BBI is bad.
2 ) 2023 -Raila is good,Gachagua is primitive,We must embrace all leaders.Bomas process.Constitutional amendment loading.
You people need to start thinking.


At statehouse Nairobi,Ruto told Gathoni wamuchoma Githunguri MP not to table any motion on revenue sharing one man one vote.Mtosheke na bursary ya 1000.

Is this not being conned?

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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2023, 09:13:34 PM »

Without Mt Kenya Raila is as twice as strong to Ruto.


Ruto has not done any handshake with Raila. Raila seem to have silently sold off ODM to Ruto - like I had predicted would happen. That is not the same with handshake. The BBI nonsense is Kalonzo redhering

The reality is that Ruto is too strong and not equal to Gachagua or any Mt kenya leader now.

Mt kenya should bid their time. Anything else is going to be disaster.

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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2023, 05:08:44 AM »
Raila is finished...Ruto is slowly replacing him in all his strongholds. FEW Mt kenya can try unite with kamba.Ruto will not easily give up his control of mt kenya. Ruto has his play n people in mt kenya. Gachagua will be replaced easily by another mt kenya leader unless he shape up n ship out.

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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2023, 02:42:10 PM »
The stupidity of Azimio is getting involved in UDA wars, wacha wajikaange na mafuta Yao and take advantage. What fool could not foresee and fallout between kales and Kikuyus? You can go back here and you will find us predicting this, when Kalenjin is in power, they forget their 1.5m votes and start shitting on everyone. Azimio seems to be holding in luhyaland, Kisii and Kamba, Luos will never go against Raila. Azimio should right now be reaching out to okuyus and have Raila home free in 2027.

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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2023, 04:24:30 PM »
There will be no Kalenjin/Kikuyu rivalry as long as Ruto is in charge. The problem I see ahead is GEMA showing their hand early instead of waiting for Ruto to hand over to Kimani, Ndindi, or Gachagua in a way that others won't see as ping pong between two communities. Governing sucessfully, and having sucess in all fronts including UDA minimal fights is Key. I think Gachagua need to detach from Kikuyu supremacy the way Ruto is out of Kalenjin and into the mainstream. If he doesn't I see Kimani or Nyoro slowly eating his lunch down the road. My prediction are always on point. Ruto in 2032 will hand over to Kikuyu again easy based on my insider intelligence. Those hoping for Raila/Mudvd, Kalonzo or anyone are dreaming! Ruto is the only human being plus size on loyalty. Unlike ungreatful Uhuru, he has no choice but to hand over power to the folks that made him president.
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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2023, 07:21:47 PM »
Kimani or Nyoro, forget Ichungwa he already ate dust maybe Nyoro who is smart to be shutting his mouth,But even someone like Kuria with his loud mouth has actually more traction than ichungwa ,Nyoro and Gachagua, reason he is a grassroots player his party did well to entrench itself in the region Kuria is no walk over.

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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2023, 03:52:05 AM »
You need to tell this to RVPundit . GEMA made Ruto President , same way Rift Valley Made Uhuru President . Uhuru betrayed GEMA and Rift Valley by Handshaking Raila . GEMA not only made him pay but also stuck to their promise of paying back Ruto for his support in in 2013/2017.
The likes of RVPundit want Ruto to play Raila politics of betrayal .Well history shows us one thing Politics of betrayal always loses from Raila betraying Moi and trying to betray Kibaki lost in 2007 , Raila betraying Ruto Lost in 2013 and 2017 . Uhuru betraying GEMA and RV lost in 2022.
Let Ruto betray GEMA as Pundit advocates and its Kaput for him.

There will be no Kalenjin/Kikuyu rivalry as long as Ruto is in charge. The problem I see ahead is GEMA showing their hand early instead of waiting for Ruto to hand over to Kimani, Ndindi, or Gachagua in a way that others won't see as ping pong between two communities. Governing sucessfully, and having sucess in all fronts including UDA minimal fights is Key. I think Gachagua need to detach from Kikuyu supremacy the way Ruto is out of Kalenjin and into the mainstream. If he doesn't I see Kimani or Nyoro slowly eating his lunch down the road. My prediction are always on point. Ruto in 2032 will hand over to Kikuyu again easy based on my insider intelligence. Those hoping for Raila/Mudvd, Kalonzo or anyone are dreaming! Ruto is the only human being plus size on loyalty. Unlike ungreatful Uhuru, he has no choice but to hand over power to the folks that made him president.

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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2023, 06:33:19 AM »
To avoid betrayal learn to be loyal and subservient to Ruto for the next 10yrs. Ruto was harrassed by GEMA just like Moi. But he played along - avoiding direct conflict.

I honestly dont see a GEMA leader now who can play politics at such a high level - and with such sophistry to survive the next decade.

Ruto magnanimity and generosity is nothing. Kalenjin are NOT COWS to be herded. We shall decide who to support. If GEMA leader like Prof Kindiki will be shinning like he is - most people will vote him. Gachagua and his bad manners will struggle even with 100% of Kalenjin support.

You need to tell this to RVPundit . GEMA made Ruto President , same way Rift Valley Made Uhuru President . Uhuru betrayed GEMA and Rift Valley by Handshaking Raila . GEMA not only made him pay but also stuck to their promise of paying back Ruto for his support in in 2013/2017.
The likes of RVPundit want Ruto to play Raila politics of betrayal .Well history shows us one thing Politics of betrayal always loses from Raila betraying Moi and trying to betray Kibaki lost in 2007 , Raila betraying Ruto Lost in 2013 and 2017 . Uhuru betraying GEMA and RV lost in 2022.
Let Ruto betray GEMA as Pundit advocates and its Kaput for him.

There will be no Kalenjin/Kikuyu rivalry as long as Ruto is in charge. The problem I see ahead is GEMA showing their hand early instead of waiting for Ruto to hand over to Kimani, Ndindi, or Gachagua in a way that others won't see as ping pong between two communities. Governing sucessfully, and having sucess in all fronts including UDA minimal fights is Key. I think Gachagua need to detach from Kikuyu supremacy the way Ruto is out of Kalenjin and into the mainstream. If he doesn't I see Kimani or Nyoro slowly eating his lunch down the road. My prediction are always on point. Ruto in 2032 will hand over to Kikuyu again easy based on my insider intelligence. Those hoping for Raila/Mudvd, Kalonzo or anyone are dreaming! Ruto is the only human being plus size on loyalty. Unlike ungreatful Uhuru, he has no choice but to hand over power to the folks that made him president.

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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2023, 06:39:38 AM »
Ichungwa you hate because you know he is half-kipsigis :) - na bado. Huyo ndio tunataka :)
Kimani or Nyoro, forget Ichungwa he already ate dust maybe Nyoro who is smart to be shutting his mouth,But even someone like Kuria with his loud mouth has actually more traction than ichungwa ,Nyoro and Gachagua, reason he is a grassroots player his party did well to entrench itself in the region Kuria is no walk over.

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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2023, 07:23:35 AM »
Kimani or Nyoro, forget Ichungwa he already ate dust maybe Nyoro who is smart to be shutting his mouth,But even someone like Kuria with his loud mouth has actually more traction than ichungwa ,Nyoro and Gachagua, reason he is a grassroots player his party did well to entrench itself in the region Kuria is no walk over.

The issue at the moment is not who will succeed Ruto.
The question is, What has Ruto given to Mt Kenya?
Is the reward to the GEMA community equivalent to their votes?
Once he isolates Gachagua,What will Ndindi or ichungwa gain for their community?
Lastly,Ruto post presidency plan is either Sakaja Mudavadi and the Likes.Not GEMA.

Gachagua is not talking about 2027 or 2032 but the continous action by Ruto of ejecting GEMA from government positions, tenders and revenue allocation.





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Re: Gikuyu,Kujeni hapa.
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2023, 09:39:14 AM »
Mt Kenya has to accept that one of their own is not residing in SH. Stop whinning and accept the fact.
The last 20 years has seen Mt Kenya take more than their share in government jobs. Now Kalejin taking more than their share, but their day of reckoning will also come. The next president after Ruto will cut Kalejin back to size.

Accept the fact that Kenya is not only Mt Kenya and RV. Those two groups do not even have 35% of the country's population and have more than 60% of government posts.

The issue at the moment is not who will succeed Ruto.
The question is, What has Ruto given to Mt Kenya?
Is the reward to the GEMA community equivalent to their votes?
Once he isolates Gachagua,What will Ndindi or ichungwa gain for their community?
Lastly,Ruto post presidency plan is either Sakaja Mudavadi and the Likes.Not GEMA.

Gachagua is not talking about 2027 or 2032 but the continous action by Ruto of ejecting GEMA from government positions, tenders and revenue allocation.