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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2022, 06:17:15 PM »
Facts never lie. Chances of Putin surviving this war are much less than Selenky's. Putin has to win in order to stay alive or run to North Korea in exile.
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Politician lied; not western media; and what exactly is western media; Russia hidding has been reported worlwide.

These are facts
1) Ukraine forces kicked Russia from Kiev airport and it's fringes - and got them running from the North with thousands of tanks on cheap chinese tires unable to fight back.
2) Ukraine forces followed them and kicked them out of east and south of Ukraine
3) Ukraine forces kicked out Russia from Kherson - the only major city - they had won.
4) Ukraine forces are now battling Russia essentially in Russia newlands - Donbash is half occuppied by Ukraine - Russia annexed the whole of it.
5) The battle now in Bakhmut is in Russian according to Russian and Ukraine according to Ukraine.
6) Outside Crimea that Russia took without much of fight- Russia is facing Afgan like resistant from Ukrainians - making their campaign dead on arrival.

As we speak Russia is back to 2014 - in the trenches their sponsored separatist rebels dug.

Their war objective seem almost shattered. First they wanted to remove Comedian for being Neo-Nazi. Now look like Putin will be removed.

just ask RV pundit and his friend Jaduong Githunguri what were the reports from Western Media about Afghanistan War ? There you have your answer

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2022, 07:23:19 PM »

You are just echoing Western media narrative.
Point No 1 . Fact Russia captured Antonov Airport in Kyiv Oblast . Ukrainian forces never Kicked out Russia . The airport became damaged and couldnt be used anymore.
Point No 2 .Russia occupies vast Majority of South Eastern as we speak. Yet to be kicked out . Another fact it wont happen .
Point No 3 . Xerson city is not the only major city Russia occupies . Xerson city was just the headquarters of Xerson Western media continues to lie its the only City Russia occupied.
Point 4 . Donbass (Donetsk and lugansk) have been occupied by separists since 2014 . They are not Russian newlands
Point 5 . Google what Wagner is doing in Bakhmut . Even Ukrainians acknowledge its beyond them .
Point 6 . In Kyiv it was an insurgent like Afghan . In South Eastern its a battle like the Worldwars hence the reason Ukraine requested HIMARS and AIRMS . 
Bottom line you are parroting what Western media is saying. Putin will be there when all other Western leaders are gone including Zelensky. Where is UK Pm, where is Italian PM where is Sweden PM ?

Politician lied; not western media; and what exactly is western media; Russia hidding has been reported worlwide.

These are facts
1) Ukraine forces kicked Russia from Kiev airport and it's fringes - and got them running from the North with thousands of tanks on cheap chinese tires unable to fight back.
2) Ukraine forces followed them and kicked them out of east and south of Ukraine
3) Ukraine forces kicked out Russia from Kherson - the only major city - they had won.
4) Ukraine forces are now battling Russia essentially in Russia newlands - Donbash is half occuppied by Ukraine - Russia annexed the whole of it.
5) The battle now in Bakhmut is in Russian according to Russian and Ukraine according to Ukraine.
6) Outside Crimea that Russia took without much of fight- Russia is facing Afgan like resistant from Ukrainians - making their campaign dead on arrival.

As we speak Russia is back to 2014 - in the trenches their sponsored separatist rebels dug.

Their war objective seem almost shattered. First they wanted to remove Comedian for being Neo-Nazi. Now look like Putin will be removed.

just ask RV pundit and his friend Jaduong Githunguri what were the reports from Western Media about Afghanistan War ? There you have your answer

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2022, 07:26:27 PM »


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1) Ukraine forces kicked Russia from Kiev airport

On 24 February 2022, a few hours after President of Russia Vladimir Putin announced the beginning of a "special military operation" in Ukraine, Russian troops of the Russian Airborne Forces (VDV) made an air assault on Antonov Airport with the objective of capturing it. The airport held strategic value as it was located less than 10 kilometres (6.2 mi) outside of the capital Kyiv, which would allow Russian troops to airlift more troops and heavier equipment to directly threaten the city.[6] However, the Ukrainian military responded with a counter-attack which encircled the unsupported Russian forces and repelled the initial assault.[14] The attack resumed on the next day with another air assault by the VDV combined with a ground assault by armored reinforcements coming from the Belarusian border, breaking through the Ukrainian defenses. The airport was then captured by the Russian forces


On 25 February 2022, Russian mechanized ground forces advancing from Belarus combined with another air assault by the VDV, took control of the airport after partially breaking through Ukrainian defenses at the Battle of Ivankiv.[21][31] Some of the armored vehicles were ambushed before reaching Hostomel, halting the reinforcements for a time, but nonetheless they entered the airport and helped to expel the Ukrainian defenders.[10] According to the Russian Ministry of Defence,[32] the capture came following an operation that involved some 200 helicopters. The figure of about 200 Ukrainian casualties and no casualties on the Russian side was announced.[11] This claim was met with skepticism, with Timur Olevsky, a journalist who witnessed the battle, outright refuting this claim.[6][21] Nevertheless, Russian ground forces established a foothold in Hostomel and began to man checkpoints inside the town. It was speculated that the Ukrainian defenders may have sabotaged the runway ahead of the advancing Russian ground forces.[6]

The Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs initially denied that the airport had been fully captured by the Russian forces, stating that it had been "changing hands" and that the battle was ongoing. The Ministry of Internal Affairs also insisted that the Russian claim of the massive Ukrainian casualties was "an absolute lie",[33] while the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence declared that the airfield was too badly damaged to be used by Russian troops.[15] Later in the day, Ukraine confirmed that Russian forces were in control of the airport.

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2022, 07:38:20 PM »
Russia took control of hostomel airport through commandos and had Kiev sorrounded..they send million scampering.. whatever after that was totally unexpected..the comedian and his army quickly mobilized a defense and destroyed the airport... destroying Russian plan to fly in troops... Russian now had to realie on tanks on cheap Chinese tires..and they pulled back fearing getting cutoff ...That was end of war.The rest are details. The war ended in 72 hours in Kiev.Putin was to have lunch and install a puppet in Kiev.The comedian has ended the year a hero...man if the year..

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2022, 07:39:46 PM »




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Ukraine forces followed them and kicked them out of east and south of Ukraine

Current State Department map showing which areas in South East Ukraine Russia occupies . You say Russia has been kicked out



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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2022, 07:42:35 PM »




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Ukraine forces followed them and kicked them out of east and south of Ukraine

Current State Department map showing which areas in South East Ukraine Russia occupies . You say Russia has been kicked out



This war ended long time ago.That is when I switched from betting on Putin to the comedian.The Rubicon river was Kiev.These little nonsense going on border region are waste of time, resources, artillery and our bandwidth.Putin lost the battle of Kiev.Comedian convinced NATO and world he was not just a comedian but extremely brave warrior..Putin is now a joke..a practical joke

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2022, 07:43:19 PM »
Russia took control of hostomel airport through commandos and had Kiev sorrounded..they send million scampering.. whatever after that was totally unexpected..the comedian and his army quickly mobilized a defense and destroyed the airport... destroying Russian plan to fly in troops... Russian now had to really tanks on cheap Chinese tires..and they pulled back...That was end of war.The rest are details.

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2022, 07:46:10 PM »
Russia took control of hostomel airport through commandos and had Kiev sorrounded..they send million scampering.. whatever after that was totally unexpected..the comedian and his army quickly mobilized a defense and destroyed the airport... destroying Russian plan to fly in troops... Russian now had to really tanks on cheap Chinese tires..and they pulled back...That was end of war.The rest are details.
I am not invested in this war.. I supported Russia because I thought Ukraine had courted disaster poking Putin superpower arse..I honestly expected Russia to make a mince meat of Kiev..I didn't expect Russia to send drunken soldiers with rusted weaponry on cheap Chinese tires...who expected zero resistance from Ukraine..like in Crimea

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2022, 07:49:35 PM »




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Ukraine forces followed them and kicked them out of east and south of Ukraine

Current State Department map showing which areas in South East Ukraine Russia occupies . You say Russia has been kicked out



This war ended long time ago.That is when I switched from betting on Putin to the comedian.The Rubicon river was Kiev.These little nonsense going on border region are waste of time, resources, artillery and our bandwidth.Putin lost the battle of Kiev.Comedian convinced NATO and world he was not just a comedian but extremely brave warrior..Putin is now a joke..a practical joke

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2022, 07:55:35 PM »
Russia took control of hostomel airport through commandos and had Kiev sorrounded..they send million scampering.. whatever after that was totally unexpected..the comedian and his army quickly mobilized a defense and destroyed the airport... destroying Russian plan to fly in troops... Russian now had to really tanks on cheap Chinese tires..and they pulled back...That was end of war.The rest are details.
I am not invested in this war.. I supported Russia because I thought Ukraine had courted disaster poking Putin superpower arse..I honestly expected Russia to make a mince meat of Kiev..I didn't expect Russia to send drunken soldiers with rusted weaponry on cheap Chinese tires...who expected zero resistance from Ukraine..like in Crimea

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2022, 09:19:52 PM »
Russia took control of hostomel airport through commandos and had Kiev sorrounded..they send million scampering.. whatever after that was totally unexpected..the comedian and his army quickly mobilized a defense and destroyed the airport... destroying Russian plan to fly in troops... Russian now had to really tanks on cheap Chinese tires..and they pulled back...That was end of war.The rest are details.
I am not invested in this war.. I supported Russia because I thought Ukraine had courted disaster poking Putin superpower arse..I honestly expected Russia to make a mince meat of Kiev..I didn't expect Russia to send drunken soldiers with rusted weaponry on cheap Chinese tires...who expected zero resistance from Ukraine..like in Crimea

Biden offered Zelensky asylum. To which Zelensky replied "the war is over here, not there". BEST EVER!!!
Ukrainians have forught for democracy for 30yrs and Russia even sabotaged equipment in Czech where Ukraine (since 2013) was making its artillery.
You cant win against a determined people - Ask USA in Vietnam. Russians don't even see reason they are fighting in UK.
In Crimea, Western Nations told Ukraine not to bother. Then Putin got emboldened.

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2022, 09:26:29 PM »

when I see how western media has influenced people thinking I now see how Joseph Goebbels was important in Hitlers Government. You cam brainwash people to start parroting what you want .

Russia took control of hostomel airport through commandos and had Kiev sorrounded..they send million scampering.. whatever after that was totally unexpected..the comedian and his army quickly mobilized a defense and destroyed the airport... destroying Russian plan to fly in troops... Russian now had to really tanks on cheap Chinese tires..and they pulled back...That was end of war.The rest are details.
I am not invested in this war.. I supported Russia because I thought Ukraine had courted disaster poking Putin superpower arse..I honestly expected Russia to make a mince meat of Kiev..I didn't expect Russia to send drunken soldiers with rusted weaponry on cheap Chinese tires...who expected zero resistance from Ukraine..like in Crimea

Biden offered Zelensky asylum. To which Zelensky replied "the war is over here, not there". BEST EVER!!!
Ukrainians have forught for democracy for 30yrs and Russia even sabotaged equipment in Czech where Ukraine (since 2013) was making its artillery.
You cant win against a determined people - Ask USA in Vietnam. Russians don't even see reason they are fighting in UK.
In Crimea, Western Nations told Ukraine not to bother. Then Putin got emboldened.

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2022, 01:57:07 AM »
You bore with your Western media issues. I for example only watch VOK and read Taifa Leo. The information I get there is Russia is loosing the battle.
Btw, you have never informed us which media you use as your source.



when I see how western media has influenced people thinking I now see how Joseph Goebbels was important in Hitlers Government. You cam brainwash people to start parroting what you want .

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2022, 02:22:37 AM »
How are things in Europe. Germany in particular? Have they started televising demo of high energy and food prices?

You bore with your Western media issues. I for example only watch VOK and read Taifa Leo. The information I get there is Russia is loosing the battle.
Btw, you have never informed us which media you use as your source.



when I see how western media has influenced people thinking I now see how Joseph Goebbels was important in Hitlers Government. You cam brainwash people to start parroting what you want .

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2022, 06:29:45 AM »
He has been defeated.Let him choose his poison.

Biden said there lies Armageddon.  In a nutshell, it will not go unanswered.  Putin is smart enough to understand that.  Russia is in a bad place.  There is no path to military success on the ground.  It will only get worse.  They will continue to hurt Ukraine with terror attacks until Ukraine stops them.  I am afraid if it requires a buffer inside Russia for that to end, the comedian in Kyiv will go there, if Americans don't hold him back.
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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2022, 08:11:16 AM »

And when he talked of Armegedon his operatives in state department told him not talk that language .
It would be dumb to escalate the war to an Armagedon as it will be the end of everyone .
As we speak Its Russia in Ukraine and they have their demands , Zelenski  has decided to negotiate in Feb because just like you guys he thinks he will advance where as the contrary will happen. They have been given all weapons from Western Countries stockpile until it depleted now but still no tangible results . Do you know what these means ? But hey continue consuming western media news , good for you. One small mistake and a real Armagedon will happen.

He has been defeated.Let him choose his poison.

Biden said there lies Armageddon.  In a nutshell, it will not go unanswered.  Putin is smart enough to understand that.  Russia is in a bad place.  There is no path to military success on the ground.  It will only get worse.  They will continue to hurt Ukraine with terror attacks until Ukraine stops them.  I am afraid if it requires a buffer inside Russia for that to end, the comedian in Kyiv will go there, if Americans don't hold him back.

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2022, 08:29:39 AM »
You bore with your Western media issues. I for example only watch VOK and read Taifa Leo. The information I get there is Russia is loosing the battle.
Btw, you have never informed us which media you use as your source.



when I see how western media has influenced people thinking I now see how Joseph Goebbels was important in Hitlers Government. You cam brainwash people to start parroting what you want .

My bet is on iearlgrey, Alexander Mercouris, Alex Christoforou et al.  They are purveyors of the same misguided tropes but more coherent and informed.
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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2022, 09:09:39 AM »
You were threatening Nuclear some months ago - what happened.
In fact the way Russia is behaving - their nuclear might be all rusted and ineffective.
If they dare throw one - USA and it allies will enter the fray - and destroy Russia in a week.

Before we get there - Russia military will simply overthrow Putin. He has failed.

For now - all US & EU need to finish Russia - is demand China and India stop trading with Russia - or they will be blocked from trading with US and EU. They have to choose Russia or US/EU - and you know they will drop Russia.

Russia will be left isolated and will have to negotiate their way back to Russia - then pay a huge bill to repair Ukraine.

Failure is an orphan and Russia is about to find out how isolated it can become.

And when he talked of Armegedon his operatives in state department told him not talk that language .
It would be dumb to escalate the war to an Armagedon as it will be the end of everyone .
As we speak Its Russia in Ukraine and they have their demands , Zelenski  has decided to negotiate in Feb because just like you guys he thinks he will advance where as the contrary will happen. They have been given all weapons from Western Countries stockpile until it depleted now but still no tangible results . Do you know what these means ? But hey continue consuming western media news , good for you. One small mistake and a real Armagedon will happen.

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Re: Defeated Putin should go for nuclear option.
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2022, 12:02:25 PM »

Well U.S.  secretary of Defence has already said how impressive Russian weapons are , Russia already deployed Hypersonic weapons in Ukrainian conflict . No country has any defensive weapons against Hypersonic weapons .Russia is located in a strategic place few kilometers to Europe and few Kilometers to America.
Some opine upon use of Nuclear weapon NATO should escalate the situation and join the fray the more realistic and sober ones opine to prevent a full blown Nuclear war NATO should negotiate with Russia.
I tell you for free it will be the end of Convetional War . Full stop.

Continue dreaming Russian Military will overthrow Putin . Putin is the more moderate politician they have the Military leaders are hardliners most of them are even in Ukraine fighting. I repeat again most Western leaders will be out of power before Putin , Happened with U.K PM , Italy PM Sweden PM. by 2024 2/3rds of the leaders will be civilians ans Putin will still be the Russian leaders.

U.S. is already on Chinas case why would China want to join their sanction regime when they are next . India has immensly gained with Cheap Russian oil why would they want to join the fray.
Yours is just wishful thinking. E.U. itself cannot even agree 100% on Russian sanctions and here you cheating yourself and us.


You were threatening Nuclear some months ago - what happened.
In fact the way Russia is behaving - their nuclear might be all rusted and ineffective.
If they dare throw one - USA and it allies will enter the fray - and destroy Russia in a week.

Before we get there - Russia military will simply overthrow Putin. He has failed.

For now - all US & EU need to finish Russia - is demand China and India stop trading with Russia - or they will be blocked from trading with US and EU. They have to choose Russia or US/EU - and you know they will drop Russia.

Russia will be left isolated and will have to negotiate their way back to Russia - then pay a huge bill to repair Ukraine.

Failure is an orphan and Russia is about to find out how isolated it can become.

And when he talked of Armegedon his operatives in state department told him not talk that language .
It would be dumb to escalate the war to an Armagedon as it will be the end of everyone .
As we speak Its Russia in Ukraine and they have their demands , Zelenski  has decided to negotiate in Feb because just like you guys he thinks he will advance where as the contrary will happen. They have been given all weapons from Western Countries stockpile until it depleted now but still no tangible results . Do you know what these means ? But hey continue consuming western media news , good for you. One small mistake and a real Armagedon will happen.