Tutsi genocide in DRC - time to create new republic for Tutsi there

[RV Pundit]

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Kenya should be careful in this conflict - I would support the carving out of republic for Tutsi in DRC. DRC remain too big to be uncontrolled by Kinshasasa.

#Tutsi in Eastern #DRC are in danger.#FARDC +#FDLR + #CODECO are massacring them and the world is silent as it was in #Rwanda in 1994?
Who will save the #Tutsi in #DRC? @antonioguterres @HumanRightsCtte @PatrickMuyaya @FA_Touadera @FatshiNews @MonuscoF @MONUSCO @UNPeacekeeping pic.twitter.com/MB267LVD6n

— Mukunzi Peninnah (@mukunzi5) November 25, 2022

[lelewela]

That is true, Tutsi are a minority  and must be protected . KDF currently are not well briefed unless it is related to a promise for gold and diamond by Kinshasa . We might start receiving body bags soon, better work with Paul Kagame.

[RV Pundit]

DRC gov and people are openly genocidal against the Banyamulenge and Tutsi blaming them for the turmoil in the region. That is good enough reason to allow their secession. This conflict will be end with carving out of Kivu republic for Tutsi.

Drc should be told the truth - the country is too unwieldly to be managed - they need to change the constitution to support deeper fedaralism
 

That is true, Tutsi are a minority  and must be protected . KDF currently are not well briefed unless it is related to a promise for gold and diamond by Kinshasa . We might start receiving body bags soon, better work with Paul Kagame.

[lelewela]

I see you look at regional situation objectively, Tutsis are endangered species among a see of Machete wielding Bantus.

They are seen as foreigners by both Congelese and Hutus , most probably Tutsis are Nilotes

That is why Kagame will stay in power until another powerful Tutsi or a republic of Tutsi is carved from Eastern DRC and part of Rwanda.

DRC gov and people are openly genocidal against the Banyamulenge and Tutsi blaming them for the turmoil in the region. That is good enough reason to allow their secession. This conflict will be end with carving out of Kivu republic for Tutsi.

Drc should be told the truth - the country is too unwieldly to be managed - they need to change the constitution to support deeper fedaralism
 

That is true, Tutsi are a minority  and must be protected . KDF currently are not well briefed unless it is related to a promise for gold and diamond by Kinshasa . We might start receiving body bags soon, better work with Paul Kagame.

[RV Pundit]

From human rights perspective - any group that is threatened by genocide - deserves to secede.

Any crime of genocide establishes the right to self-determination.

Once Congolese Tutsis or Banyumulenge have established that DRC and it's people want to eliminate them - they will have established grounds to form their own republic - to defend and protect their existence - and DRC would have lost the moral/legal ground to retain it's territorial integrity.

I see you look at regional situation objectively, Tutsis are endangered species among a see of Machete wielding Bantus.

They are seen as foreigners by both Congelese and Hutus , most probably Tutsis are Nilotes

That is why Kagame will stay in power until another powerful Tutsi or a republic of Tutsi is carved from Eastern DRC and part of Rwanda.

DRC gov and people are openly genocidal against the Banyamulenge and Tutsi blaming them for the turmoil in the region. That is good enough reason to allow their secession. This conflict will be end with carving out of Kivu republic for Tutsi.

Drc should be told the truth - the country is too unwieldly to be managed - they need to change the constitution to support deeper fedaralism
 

That is true, Tutsi are a minority  and must be protected . KDF currently are not well briefed unless it is related to a promise for gold and diamond by Kinshasa . We might start receiving body bags soon, better work with Paul Kagame.

[Githunguri]

Correct.

[gout]

Looks quite a fwaked shithole. Burundi got its rebels??

https://www.dw.com/en/dozens-of-burundi-rebels-killed-in-eastern-congo/a-63908251

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Kenya should be careful in this conflict - I would support the carving out of republic for Tutsi in DRC. DRC remain too big to be uncontrolled by Kinshasasa.

#Tutsi in Eastern #DRC are in danger.#FARDC +#FDLR + #CODECO are massacring them and the world is silent as it was in #Rwanda in 1994?
Who will save the #Tutsi in #DRC? @antonioguterres @HumanRightsCtte @PatrickMuyaya @FA_Touadera @FatshiNews @MonuscoF @MONUSCO @UNPeacekeeping pic.twitter.com/MB267LVD6n

— Mukunzi Peninnah (@mukunzi5) November 25, 2022

There are different classes of Tutsi in DRC.  There is Banyamulenge in South Kivu who are natives.  Then there is a Banyarwanda group(Hutus and Tutsis) in North Kivu, also legit natives.  And then there are Tutsis(Rwandans) who fled in the 60s (much like Kagame did into Uganda).  I think this last group is the one primarily behind M23. 

It seems to me like remaining/innocent long term natives have been caught up in the chaos created by the Rwandans(M23).  It has become almost impossible to separate them.  The Congolese are left feeling like the whole lot should just leave for Rwanda.  And those images have been recirculated as part of M23 propaganda.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

These are the forebears of M23.

[RV Pundit]

Thanks for the video.

These are the forebears of M23.

[RV Pundit]

But now there is genuine case to have them on their country. If Rwanda gov was to kill Hutus in Rwanda - they would similarly get that legitimacy. In any case DRC itself should be split into many countries.

There are different classes of Tutsi in DRC.  There is Banyamulenge in South Kivu who are natives.  Then there is a Banyarwanda group(Hutus and Tutsis) in North Kivu, also legit natives.  And then there are Tutsis(Rwandans) who fled in the 60s (much like Kagame did into Uganda).  I think this last group is the one primarily behind M23. 

It seems to me like remaining/innocent long term natives have been caught up in the chaos created by the Rwandans(M23).  It has become almost impossible to separate them.  The Congolese are left feeling like the whole lot should just leave for Rwanda.  And those images have been recirculated as part of M23 propaganda.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

But now there is genuine case to have them on their country. If Rwanda gov was to kill Hutus in Rwanda - they would similarly get that legitimacy. In any case DRC itself should be split into many countries.

There are different classes of Tutsi in DRC.  There is Banyamulenge in South Kivu who are natives.  Then there is a Banyarwanda group(Hutus and Tutsis) in North Kivu, also legit natives.  And then there are Tutsis(Rwandans) who fled in the 60s (much like Kagame did into Uganda).  I think this last group is the one primarily behind M23. 

It seems to me like remaining/innocent long term natives have been caught up in the chaos created by the Rwandans(M23).  It has become almost impossible to separate them.  The Congolese are left feeling like the whole lot should just leave for Rwanda.  And those images have been recirculated as part of M23 propaganda.

There also the other natives, who have been there longer, that they are fighting.  Not to mention the resource rich region.   Kinshasa won't be convinced to hand over its coltan country to them.  Autonomy, with respect for all the people in the region, seems the better shot.

[RV Pundit]

I think they have provincial devolution but it doesnt work. The Lumbubashi which is mineral rich seem to have been stabilized with half mulato governor there. What they need in eastern side is very strong province that can raise army - and beat the 120 rebels. It appears everyone can form a rebel group

There also the other natives, who have been there longer, that they are fighting.  Not to mention the resource rich region.   Kinshasa won't be convinced to hand over its coltan country to them.  Autonomy, with respect for all the people in the region, seems the better shot.

[patel]

Kick museveni and kagame out of DRC and the country will be peaceful once again.