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Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:13:01 PM »
CORD leader Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat in the new week, multiple sources say

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Re: Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2014, 08:42:53 PM »
May help but I think he didn't need to.
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Re: Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2014, 10:45:12 PM »
This is a thread running in the TNA nation.  I could be wrong, but there is no respectable source supporting the story.
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Re: Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2014, 08:29:45 AM »
Omorlo,
I have heard of some rift between abaSuba and other Luos pure going back to Tom Mboya and Jaramogi. Is it true?

I wonder how Rayirla can possibly be of any use in parliament. He can push his/ODM ideas through his proxies in parliament like he has done in the past. Those nudging him to vie are obviously insecure or the dude himself is terribly insecure and bored stiff
May help but I think he didn't need to.
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Re: Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2014, 09:02:24 AM »
He should go for it. Kibaki and Raila were mere Mps. It is hard being jobless in politics.

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Re: Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2014, 02:46:28 PM »
Successive leaders have tried to use them. Kenyatta propped up Mboya only for him to die and unify the two groups.

Suba is a clan that is found among nearly all the major tribes in Kenya. It's just that the ones in Luoland are more concentrated and keep their identity. They however lack a common language and that perhaps is the root cause of their identity crisis. I think as a political issue, it is dead. Its individuals like Kidero etc who try to milk it for their own gain.

Why is GEMA so scared of him getting back in Parliament?
Omorlo,
I have heard of some rift between abaSuba and other Luos pure going back to Tom Mboya and Jaramogi. Is it true?

I wonder how Rayirla can possibly be of any use in parliament. He can push his/ODM ideas through his proxies in parliament like he has done in the past. Those nudging him to vie are obviously insecure or the dude himself is terribly insecure and bored stiff
May help but I think he didn't need to.
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Re: Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2014, 03:42:00 PM »
Thank you for that clarification. So Kenyatta was behind the rift? Interesting. I had always thought it was brains and youth vs senility and communism

I don't know about GEMA mood but I can't see anything in Senator Rayirla that warrants panic nowhere. Rayirla stooping that low is comical, he is better off hopping from one press briefing to the next than sitting with his sons in senate
Successive leaders have tried to use them. Kenyatta propped up Mboya only for him to die and unify the two groups.

Suba is a clan that is found among nearly all the major tribes in Kenya. It's just that the ones in Luoland are more concentrated and keep their identity. They however lack a common language and that perhaps is the root cause of their identity crisis. I think as a political issue, it is dead. Its individuals like Kidero etc who try to milk it for their own gain.

Why is GEMA so scared of him getting back in Parliament?

2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2014, 03:55:21 PM »
Mboya was promoted by Kenyatta to cut down Odinga. It ended (if it ever started) with the death of Mboya when Jaramogi became the King of everything with human blood pumping in it in Kisumu, Siaya, Homa Bay, South Nyanza etc. It is that simple.

Thank you for that clarification. So Kenyatta was behind the rift? Interesting. I had always thought it was brains and youth vs senility and communism

I don't know about GEMA mood but I can't see anything in Senator Rayirla that warrants panic nowhere. Rayirla stooping that low is comical, he is better off hopping from one press briefing to the next than sitting with his sons in senate
Successive leaders have tried to use them. Kenyatta propped up Mboya only for him to die and unify the two groups.

Suba is a clan that is found among nearly all the major tribes in Kenya. It's just that the ones in Luoland are more concentrated and keep their identity. They however lack a common language and that perhaps is the root cause of their identity crisis. I think as a political issue, it is dead. Its individuals like Kidero etc who try to milk it for their own gain.

Why is GEMA so scared of him getting back in Parliament?

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Re: Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2014, 03:59:27 PM »
Mboya was promoted by Kenyatta to cut down Odinga. It ended (if it ever started) with the death of Mboya when Jaramogi became the King of everything with human blood pumping in it in Kisumu, Siaya, Homa Bay, South Nyanza etc. It is that simple.

I think he gets more credibility in the Senate. I would have prefered he leaned on Orengo to step down for him rather than go to Homa Bay but it's a mere two years before Homa Bay elects their own man.
Thank you for that clarification. So Kenyatta was behind the rift? Interesting. I had always thought it was brains and youth vs senility and communism

I don't know about GEMA mood but I can't see anything in Senator Rayirla that warrants panic nowhere. Rayirla stooping that low is comical, he is better off hopping from one press briefing to the next than sitting with his sons in senate
Successive leaders have tried to use them. Kenyatta propped up Mboya only for him to die and unify the two groups.

Suba is a clan that is found among nearly all the major tribes in Kenya. It's just that the ones in Luoland are more concentrated and keep their identity. They however lack a common language and that perhaps is the root cause of their identity crisis. I think as a political issue, it is dead. Its individuals like Kidero etc who try to milk it for their own gain.

Why is GEMA so scared of him getting back in Parliament?

... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2014, 10:19:49 AM »
Idea rejected it would seem after local rebellion. Raila must be willing to do the same in 2017...if CORD will have a realistic chance of winning..Raila must be willing to become a king maker.

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Re: Raila Odinga expected to announce run for Homa Bay senate seat
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2014, 08:52:07 PM »
The Turkish AKP model comes to mind. The military and Judiciary as well as the moneyed class did not want Erdogan. In fact the courts prevented him from assuming office. So he let Abdullah Gul become PM. Once they had formed government Gul's government lifted the "ban" on Erdogan and it was just a matter of time before Gul became President and Erdogan assumed the powerful post of PM.

What Raila needs to do is identify a principled person and support him. Then have the constitution amended to provide for a balance of power between PM, Parliament and President. Obviously most power should be retained in Parliament. He can then become President or PM depending on their deal and the vote in parliament.

However I have to stress that it is not so important that Raila becomes something. What we need is a cooling down of the political temperature in the country where power is less important and order and justice pillars. Government jobs should no longer be avenues to wealth but step stones to a vibrant career in the private sector.
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