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Coast hotels at 10 per cent capacity
« on: December 04, 2014, 09:40:01 AM »
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Re: Coast hotels at 10 per cent capacity
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2014, 06:49:38 PM »
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We did predict this when everybody was ululating about Operation Linda Kenya. I hate to be right in such cases. Here we are and the end is not insight. Uhuru has not realized the Al Shabaab game plan is to spread the war in to Kenya. The warlords have run out of resources to plunder. They can sell those electricity transformers, roll up the cables and cart whole buildings away. It takes a warlord less than a week to dismantle KICC and another week to transport it 3000 km away! You should see what Nigerian criminals and Sierra Leonean warlords did to Sierra Leone.

Pirate and rogue ships would anchor in the sea and for weeks be loaded with contraband even sand and concrete. One trip to Freetown would transform a pirate in to a millionaire. I may not make money in Kabiyet. But if I dismantle all those small shops and go down there and dismantle the Diary Processing plant and posho mills, demolish buildings carefully packing the blocks, timber and iron sheets, Roll up the electricity wiring and any pipes in vicinity; I can sell who shops and houses to people wherever I go. There is no understanding of the war economy. Right now there are people making tons of money behind Boko Haram lines.

... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Coast hotels at 10 per cent capacity
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2014, 06:58:04 PM »
I saw a preview during pev..by second week...it was becoming free for all. Let us hope common sense will prevail and they can start thnking of pulling out.

But i doubt...Gema elite hubris and arrogance is was what brought us to this second war and they cannot contentance defeat by somalis.

What we are calling for essentially is a withdrawal and admission of defeat. Can Uhuru do that? I doubt. It takes a stronger person to do that. Moi could have done it.

Kenyatta snr took kenya thro wars..by the time he was dying...namanga border was closed...diplomatic relationship with kenya was no more...not even an embassay..the same with uganda...we nearly went to war with Amin..we were at war with somalia...only Ethiopia was our distant friend..but does ethiopia care about kenya..hell no.

Moi did alot of repairing  starting with TZ, Uganda [culminating in EAC again], somalia gov and tolerated alshabaab and company when somali gov collapsed for more than 10yrs. Kibaki took less than 3yrs to start planning attack of somalia.

Now Uhuru ..not only has he continued with war in somalia...our relationship with TZ is increasingly growing cold as were start coalition of the willing dissing TZ..over in south sudan...we took sides..and are no longer the honest brokers we have always been to south sudan and sudan.

This is classic gema elite arrogance and hubris...that has played before in tz,uganda and now somalia...with disastrous effect to kenya...which thanks to Moi had calculated an image as swiss of africa....a tourist paradise...an investor paradise...an oasis of peace in troublesome region.

At some point during the moi regime...we actually did need  not need an army...we had no enemies...even alshabaab were our greatest investors.

The last shifta died in 1995...and NEP starting making strides...in all spheres....it was now possible for kenyans to go to NEP...now it's as good as any part of somalia...a war zone.

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We did predict this when everybody was ululating about Operation Linda Kenya. I hate to be right in such cases. Here we are and the end is not insight. Uhuru has not realized the Al Shabaab game plan is to spread the war in to Kenya. The warlords have run out of resources to plunder. They can sell those electricity transformers, roll up the cables and cart whole buildings away. It takes a warlord less than a week to dismantle KICC and another week to transport it 3000 km away! You should see what Nigerian criminals and Sierra Leonean warlords did to Sierra Leone.

Pirate and rogue ships would anchor in the sea and for weeks be loaded with contraband even sand and concrete. One trip to Freetown would transform a pirate in to a millionaire. I may not make money in Kabiyet. But if I dismantle all those small shops and go down there and dismantle the Diary Processing plant and posho mills, demolish buildings carefully packing the blocks, timber and iron sheets, Roll up the electricity wiring and any pipes in vicinity; I can sell who shops and houses to people wherever I go. There is no understanding of the war economy. Right now there are people making tons of money behind Boko Haram lines.



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Re: Coast hotels at 10 per cent capacity
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2014, 07:18:19 PM »
Hubris! I hope you don't burn your finger because you touched it squarely!

It is very simple: Either we get out of Somalia or we shall be humiliated by those brigands. Talking to some of the GEMA elite, they think The West will come to their aid with arms etc. Can they name one country that was rescued by the West? Afghanistan? Iraq?

Pakistan has managed to survive by resisting American pressure to declare war on the Taliban and in fact the current PM has been negotiating with The Local and Afghan Taliban. The military kept Osama Bin Laden safe behind their garrison in Abbottabad for years.

I agree with your take on Jomo Foreign Policy:

The problem with that mzee is that he let foreigners decide for him foreign policy. The British had issues with Nyerere and Obote and he got involved. Then Siad Barre started cheating the Russians for arms and money and the Americans told Kenyatta here is an enemy and he swallowed! After Haile Selassie was overthrown in 1974, Kenyatta would not meet Mengistu at all.

Thankfully he died 3 years after Mengistu consolidated power and Moi took over. Moi renewed the no aggression pact with Ethiopia against threats from the US. Kenyatta had refused to aid Ethiopia when Barre attacked despite having such a deal.

He unnecessarily antagonized Amin when the coffee smuggling deals with Mama Ngina went awry. He also acted at the behest of the UK.

We are heading in that direction. Tanzania has effectively withdrawn from EAC. Uganda and Rwanda want a federation because they want free access to the ports. Uhuru is leading them on unaware that his GEMA cartels will simply not accept to lose to better organized Ugandan and Rwandan businessmen who do not need corruption or favouritism to survive. The day he says NO is the day he earns two dangerous enemies.

 
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Re: Coast hotels at 10 per cent capacity
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2014, 07:22:40 PM »
An excellent analysis. They need to study moi's famous humility. Their hubris is their downfall.
Hubris! I hope you don't burn your finger because you touched it squarely!

It is very simple: Either we get out of Somalia or we shall be humiliated by those brigands. Talking to some of the GEMA elite, they think The West will come to their aid with arms etc. Can they name one country that was rescued by the West? Afghanistan? Iraq?

Pakistan has managed to survive by resisting American pressure to declare war on the Taliban and in fact the current PM has been negotiating with The Local and Afghan Taliban. The military kept Osama Bin Laden safe behind their garrison in Abbottabad for years.

I agree with your take on Jomo Foreign Policy:

The problem with that mzee is that he let foreigners decide for him foreign policy. The British had issues with Nyerere and Obote and he got involved. Then Siad Barre started cheating the Russians for arms and money and the Americans told Kenyatta here is an enemy and he swallowed! After Haile Selassie was overthrown in 1974, Kenyatta would not meet Mengistu at all.

Thankfully he died 3 years after Mengistu consolidated power and Moi took over. Moi renewed the no aggression pact with Ethiopia against threats from the US. Kenyatta had refused to aid Ethiopia when Barre attacked despite having such a deal.

He unnecessarily antagonized Amin when the coffee smuggling deals with Mama Ngina went awry. He also acted at the behest of the UK.

We are heading in that direction. Tanzania has effectively withdrawn from EAC. Uganda and Rwanda want a federation because they want free access to the ports. Uhuru is leading them on unaware that his GEMA cartels will simply not accept to lose to better organized Ugandan and Rwandan businessmen who do not need corruption or favouritism to survive. The day he says NO is the day he earns two dangerous enemies.

 

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Re: Coast hotels at 10 per cent capacity
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2014, 07:52:29 PM »
It was such a shame to see Kikwete hosting peace talks with the South Sudan parties. It was the height of Kenya's humiliation sadly unnoticed by the propaganda tuned bozos.
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