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Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« on: September 27, 2022, 09:03:34 PM »
He was supposedly found dead in his house with foam coming out of his mouth.  Apparently his son also fell ill and is in the hospital. It doesn't sound like a natural cause of death.

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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2022, 10:28:06 AM »
Look like poisoning by wife and relatives

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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2022, 11:18:52 AM »
Mother is saying it was dysfunctional family. Why are people living like this.
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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2022, 12:30:59 PM »
very painful to watch..many dysfunctional families.

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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2022, 12:50:40 PM »
Never stay in a troubled marriage.It will cost your life.

If it starts with drama,It will end in drama (poisoning promiscuity violence gun war)


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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2022, 01:02:04 PM »
yes marriage is the worst institution. a modern slavery with one purpose for one person to sell sex to the other. fuck marriage

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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2022, 02:51:17 PM »
Mother is saying it was dysfunctional family. Why are people living like this.


She rushes to conclusions.  It's possible they were dysfunctional, and their enemies took advantage of this fact.  Most dysfunctional families just tread the water without any major disasters.
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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2022, 03:10:26 PM »
Mother is saying it was dysfunctional family. Why are people living like this.


She rushes to conclusions.  It's possible they were dysfunctional, and their enemies took advantage of this fact.  Most dysfunctional families just tread the water without any major disasters.
There is a possibility, especially in Kenya. Killers cover their tracks by exploiting existing victim's challenges. If death is marriage-related, it is something to do with money, infidelity, or property, especially when couple are middle-aged (35-50 range is tough for married folks). For unmarried, divorced and other rejects, 36-85 is suicidal (Bonkers territory; they seem together until they explode). You don't want to be divorced or unmarried at age 40+ in conservatives societies like Kenya. It looks like alcohol killed him!
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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2022, 03:28:33 PM »
She is in pain and a bit disjointed. The gaps are connecting. During graduation, Gicheru's grandfather to said ameoa muoto. She used to sneak out through windows- weird for a graduate?! Going where??

Talks about 200 cows in hands of wife's brother - chased Paul's brother from managing the plot and the cows.

Then tembo- Gicheru, wife and kids drinking together at home. Says she called every Sunday, and he was incoherent at times. Wife was drunk too. Talked this Monday.

Says she had been poisoned once by soda.

Mother is saying it was dysfunctional family. Why are people living like this.


She rushes to conclusions.  It's possible they were dysfunctional, and their enemies took advantage of this fact.  Most dysfunctional families just tread the water without any major disasters.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2022, 04:33:36 PM »
yes marriage is the worst institution. a modern slavery with one purpose for one person to sell sex to the other. fuck marriage
You must be an old demented divorcee or aging, unmarried crazy person. Bona fide marriage is the most fantastic event in one's life; it is the foundation of family stability, free wet-dripping sex, success, and Joy!
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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2022, 06:13:06 PM »
yes marriage is the worst institution. a modern slavery with one purpose for one person to sell sex to the other. fuck marriage
You must be an old demented divorcee or aging, unmarried crazy person. Bona fide marriage is the most fantastic event in one's life; it is the foundation of family stability, free wet-dripping sex, success, and Joy!

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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2022, 09:13:03 PM »
Ouko was supposed to have been entangled in a love thing too.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2022, 10:14:52 PM »
yes marriage is the worst institution. a modern slavery with one purpose for one person to sell sex to the other. fuck marriage
You must be an old demented divorcee or aging, unmarried crazy person. Bona fide marriage is the most fantastic event in one's life; it is the foundation of family stability, free wet-dripping sex, success, and Joy!
African customs and traditions were ahead of time. From Nigeria to Limpompo, most African tribes used to research the family before marriage negotiations could begin. Spies used to be sent to investigate the mother and family for defects and how the relationship with the husband and extended family rolled before making a call on whether to initiate further engagement. That was brilliant, and folks today should do it as well. Also, I think men should also be included. If the father is stubborn, alcoholic, cheater, violent or abusive, sons may also turn out the same. It shouldn't be only the women's side being investigated before engaging in courtship.
Yes, meeting the spouse at 17-25 is a perfect time. Anyone above 26-29 is getting borderline crazy, but after 31 and beyond is bonkers territory. 30-somethings with kids and are single are rattlesnakes waiting to bite. Engage them at your own risk!
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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2022, 11:02:41 PM »
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Yes, meeting the spouse at 17-25 is a perfect time. Anyone above 26-29 is getting borderline crazy, but after 31 and beyond is bonkers territory. 30-somethings with kids and are single are rattlesnakes waiting to bite. Engage them at your own risk!

17 might be too young to tell how someone is going to turn out, but by 25 you should have an idea. So, I'd say between 22-26 after 30, people don't change and that might be a benefit if you meet someone at that age because what you see is what you are going to get.

And upbringing is very important (very few people are able to over come poor upbringing's and in Kenya, with all the poverty, you will be getting people coming out of extreme circumstances and with too many trauma's.

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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2022, 11:36:26 PM »
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Yes, meeting the spouse at 17-25 is a perfect time. Anyone above 26-29 is getting borderline crazy, but after 31 and beyond is bonkers territory. 30-somethings with kids and are single are rattlesnakes waiting to bite. Engage them at your own risk!

17 might be too young to tell how someone is going to turn out, but by 25 you should have an idea. So, I'd say between 22-26 after 30, people don't change and that might be a benefit if you meet someone at that age because what you see is what you are going to get.

And upbringing is very important (very few people are able to over come poor upbringing's and in Kenya, with all the poverty, you will be getting people coming out of extreme circumstances and with too many trauma's.
From 16 to 18, it could be childhood/school/church/village friend. If you marry those early friends when they hit 22+, they turn out to be life partners, according to a peer-reviewed Nigerian scholar who did research. I think friendships developed between the ages of 17 and 25 are pure and free of experience lessons that damage the human psyche. After 30 people are naturally polluted and, even if they are good, they may be too cautious or internally damaged by the process. Those old folk with kids and unmarried are much worse. I think poverty has no concrete links with relationships down the road, but alcoholism, illiteracy, and other upbringing constructs could be significant in that space. 
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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2022, 11:39:10 PM »
Slow down Tami!    Families know aaaaalot. Give her the benefit of doubt. If you wait for DCI to avoid bias, good luck with that. She's saying...round up the usual suspect. Even a detective would want to hear this from fmly, would he/she NOT?????????

Mother is saying it was dysfunctional family. Why are people living like this.


She rushes to conclusions.  It's possible they were dysfunctional, and their enemies took advantage of this fact.  Most dysfunctional families just tread the water without any major disasters.

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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2022, 11:44:26 PM »
Huge part of life; is being lucky. Lucky to be born with brains, to be surrounded with good people; marrying good wife; being healthy; then of course being responsible.

I'd say 80% you can fix; 20% you cannot.

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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2022, 06:16:35 AM »
yes marriage is the worst institution. a modern slavery with one purpose for one person to sell sex to the other. fuck marriage
You must be an old demented divorcee or aging, unmarried crazy person. Bona fide marriage is the most fantastic event in one's life; it is the foundation of family stability, free wet-dripping sex, success, and Joy!

I work with married people all the time. especially the modern marriage is just a mess. most couples are together for convenience. if you do financial planning and estate planning you will realize how marriage is the worst institution to ever be invented. in agrarian communities marriage makes sense but in today's world you marry just to conform to societal pressure. in the most free societies like America 50% of marriages end in the 1st 10 years. look at Rachel and ruto. Rachel is getting cheated on and abused but because she has to fulfill her religious duty she stays married to the beast. Anyway kila nyani na starehe yake.

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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2022, 01:53:59 PM »
The issue of OWNERSHIP under capitalism needs legal, political, religious and cultural exorcism especially in a poor country with limited opportunities. I OWN you, Don't dare talk to your parents or any (wo)man.  I OWN you so what you OWN is Mine.

Child support laws, clear divorce laws, succession laws, political discourses, church leaders, name it.
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Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2022, 04:41:57 PM »
Huge part of life; is being lucky. Lucky to be born with brains, to be surrounded with good people; marrying good wife; being healthy; then of course being responsible.

I'd say 80% you can fix; 20% you cannot.

Luck also involves what country you are born in and I am increasingly seeing the importance of being born in the right country.  Being born in the US or Sweden increases your luck quotient exponentially. Being born in any sub-african country decreases your luck quotient exponentially.