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Offline KenyanPlato

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bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« on: September 16, 2022, 04:26:39 PM »
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this will be one thing I want to see happen. Ndii ni kijama cha theories. he has a kibanda mentality

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2022, 04:54:57 PM »
I would like to see the expression on the face of Treasury guys when David Ndii marches there to explain to them his bottom up theory.

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2022, 04:57:36 PM »
I would like to see the expression on the face of Treasury guys when David Ndii marches there to explain to them his bottom up theory.

he is working 16 hours to be mocked. ndii is retarded

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2022, 05:05:11 PM »
This not first time he has done economic recovery blueprint.
He did it for Kibaki Narc 2003 - with Kibaki and Prof Nyongo - before Kibaki did his own vision 2030 thing of big projects
Give him time; he has phd from oxford; was top in UON.

He is good for this kind of stuff - but once the ship is sailing- Ruto will fire him because he will be predicting doom.

This is his opportunity to shine.

He has Ruto captured.

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2022, 05:07:29 PM »
So let all give him all the time he needs.....


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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2022, 05:15:03 PM »
Anything is better than what we have had the last 25 years. I don't even mind returning to 1980s and 90s policies of Moi. My family in the village was thriving in the late 80s to early 90s on KCC, KFA, and NCBP alone. Every month my dad was collecting 15K from KCC alone, which is almost equivalent to 600K in today's money. The tractors and canter lorries were collecting milk daily between 7-9 am and return mutungis at 3-6pm in the same station daily Monday through Saturday with utmost efficiency. Folks would line up at the end of month to collect milk money and be happy. Those were the days. Now, there are very few people in the village earning anything close to 100K, leave alone 400K that nearly every milk farmer use to earn in the 80s and 90s! Pyrethrum board, tea Board, cereal board, coffee boards and may organizations were running like well-oiled machines. Hustler need to bring back order, effective corporations, thriving private sector, and functioning institutions. It will take about 2 years to see order and economic prosperity return.
The future belongs to those who have a quarter of the character and integrity of RV Heavy Hitter!

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2022, 05:17:17 PM »
Agreed. Things have certainly gotten hard. Ruto has to make agriculture work again even with smaller land sizes.
Anything is better than what we have had the last 25 years. I don't even mind returning to 1980s and 90s policies of Moi. My family in the village was thriving in the late 80s to early 90s on KCC, KFA, and NCBP alone. Every month my dad was collecting 15K from KCC alone, which is almost equivalent to 600K in today's money. The tractors and canter lorries were collecting milk daily between 7-9 am and return mutungis at 3-6pm in the same station daily Monday through Saturday with utmost efficiency. Folks would line up at the end of month to collect milk money and be happy. Those were the days. Now, there are very few people in the village earning anything close to 100K, leave alone 400K that nearly every milk farmer use to earn in the 80s and 90s! Pyrethrum board, tea Board, cereal board, coffee boards and may organizations were running like well-oiled machines. Hustler need to bring back order, effective corporations, thriving private sector, and functioning institutions. It will take about 2 years to see order and economic prosperity return.

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2022, 05:18:19 PM »
bullshit kibaki fired him and ignored for the rest of the term

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2022, 05:19:08 PM »
Kibaki got captured by Wanjigi and other contractors - who then rolled out Vision 2030 projects - like LAPSET (Isiolo airport now idle years - Lamu port idle- sgr struggling) - purely for rent seeking - and brought Chinese contractors - took their 10-30 percent cut - and that has been the problem it appears. Ndii had balanced the budget by 2006 - however with Wanjigi Chinaman - we started taking huge loans - for signature vision 2030 projects- and we are in a hole.

bullshit kibaki fired him and ignored for the rest of the term

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2022, 07:59:14 PM »
I thought Ruto promised to continue with big 4 agenda, uhuru version of 2030, is it that the antithesis of bottom up?

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2022, 08:02:07 PM »
Big 4 is largely bottom up... housing,food security, manufacturing... Jubilee 1.0 was heavy on infrastructure.Personally I believe infrastructure like thika road..basic has assured ROI than bottom up... problem is corruption and secondary infrastructure like useless airports

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2022, 08:08:39 PM »
Big 4 is largely bottom up... housing,food security, manufacturing... Jubilee 1.0 was heavy on infrastructure.Personally I believe infrastructure like thika road..basic has assured ROI than bottom up... problem is corruption and secondary infrastructure like useless airports

you are one Biggest Liar. you spent 2011 to 2016 praising sgr and other projects..huna mushimamo.


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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2022, 08:37:52 PM »
Pundit has always shifted his stance according to the direction of the wind.
BTW who is Sudi and if there is not money, how come he is being flown in shs100k/hr helicopter instead of driving?

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2022, 09:20:26 PM »
Big 4 is largely bottom up... housing,food security, manufacturing... Jubilee 1.0 was heavy on infrastructure.Personally I believe infrastructure like thika road..basic has assured ROI than bottom up... problem is corruption and secondary infrastructure like useless airports

you are one Biggest Liar. you spent 2011 to 2016 praising sgr and other projects..huna mushimamo.


I have not changed...basic infrastructure is the engine..I hope Ruto doesn't end up with giving hustler money without giving them roads, electricity and water

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Re: bottom up as sold by Mrs Gatabaki
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2022, 09:24:29 PM »
Pundit has always shifted his stance according to the direction of the wind.
BTW who is Sudi and if there is not money, how come he is being flown in shs100k/hr helicopter instead of driving?
I change .. because I am not a fool...I am willing to give 50 percent chance to Ndii ideas but definitely basic infrastructure is best bottom up...road in some places reduce fare by 300 percent...I know places where 30km distance was 500shs...after tarmac it's 150 shs...time is also reduced three times.I say we give Ndii some time to proof this dichotomy he says exist btw economy and development...but Ruto should split the budget...basic infrastructure...then bottom up.What need to go are secondary and tertiary infrastructure like isiolo ports.Ruto has to give Ndii half a chance...retain the other for proven stuff...roads,water, electricity...those are proven development models.So Ruto should focus on getting PPP projects as Ndii recover the economy...then try to continue opening up Kenya through basic infrastructure . Nothing concrete shows giving hustler money will make them productive...they may just consume it all or use it to bet on sportspesa