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Offline RV Pundit

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CBC taskforce
« on: September 14, 2022, 10:41:25 AM »
My proposal
1) Be cost sensitive on poor mostly rural kids
2) Junior secondary should be domiciled in existing primary - kids to proceed to std 7,8 - gives gov two years to build one extra class. Gov to hire or transfer junior high school teachers to primary school- so graduate teachers teach from class 7-9 - many in primary schools already have graduate degrees. Primary school should have one principal - primary head teacher - and junior secondary had teacher.
3) Secondary will therefore start from 10,11,12 - senior secondary teach them A level - for those academically inclined
4) University to take three years.

You cant have class 7 kids joining existing high school..that is Ufool nonsense.
The extra classroom will fix capacity challenges in high schools...can also become computer labs or tech labs

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2022, 01:10:37 PM »
Prof Wandia Njoya as a teacher needs to be part of or given enough airtime in the taskforce. She sounds selfless.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2022, 11:27:19 AM »
It appears cbc might be killed.I wish we did evaluation of the kids on basic reading and maths skills like Pisa..so we know if the system is flawed or not

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2022, 05:35:48 PM »
Seems nothing much will come out of it. Wandia's point that teachers are playing god, is true of all other aspects of mwafrika life- everyone wants to solve all problems except the problems they are supposed to solve. Main reason why nothing moves in Afrika.

IMF conditions are about to kill university education.

http://www.wandianjoya.com/blog/we-need-a-national-philosophy-of-education
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2022, 09:26:36 PM »
Wandia is full of BS. She should concentrate on university education. Education system we need should work in Turkana or Mandera. She should explain clearly how any of her lofty self-promotion ideas will be practically implemented in grass thatched or a school under a tree.

If not she can take her lofty ideas to private or international schools. Gov are dealing with what they got - not the ideal situation. What they have are teachers already in the field - most of them are absentee :). That should what she address herself - how do we for example ensure teachers are always in class.

The rest of nonsense I read sound like self-promotion BS. She needs to visit ministry of education in Jogoo house - I spend few times there working for UN - and you'll understand just the grim reality - even the toilets at ministry dont work. Then take a visit to Kibera and go to a slum school.  Then come, wipe your shoes off the shiet and now write NON-BS articles. Otherwise go to an international school with unlimited resources and give them world class recommendation

We need people like Bridges Academies - with real life experience dealing with public school in poor country - not slay queens like her.

Seems nothing much will come out of it. Wandia's point that teachers are playing god, is true of all other aspects of mwafrika life- everyone wants to solve all problems except the problems they are supposed to solve. Main reason why nothing moves in Afrika.

IMF conditions are about to kill university education.

http://www.wandianjoya.com/blog/we-need-a-national-philosophy-of-education

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2022, 12:45:51 PM »
You cannot blame Wandias of lofty ideas while she has been again the same lofty nonsense in education. It is the govt mandarins who introduced the lofty CBC confusion with no regard for Turkana and Kibera.

Why insist on an expensive experiment while we are struggling with teachers' shortages in Wajir, Turkana. Apart from teachers, broke govt has to scramble to build classrooms and labs in primary schools- further disadvantaging the Turkanas you claim to defend.

With CA and IEBC showing most schools are covered by 3G network it should not be a big deal to check teachers' absenteeism. Already most schools have simple check in register systems in place at minimal costs.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2022, 12:58:12 PM »
You cannot blame Wandias of lofty ideas while she has been again the same lofty nonsense in education. It is the govt mandarins who introduced the lofty CBC confusion with no regard for Turkana and Kibera.

Why insist on an expensive experiment while we are struggling with teachers' shortages in Wajir, Turkana. Apart from teachers, broke govt has to scramble to build classrooms and labs in primary schools- further disadvantaging the Turkanas you claim to defend.

With CA and IEBC showing most schools are covered by 3G network it should not be a big deal to check teachers' absenteeism. Already most schools have simple check in register systems in place at minimal costs.
if you ask me we should listen to people like bright academies who've created education system out of slums

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2022, 03:40:02 PM »
Bridge is in the urban slums which fair far better than Turkanas and Wajirs. The Working party should have offered advisory on TSC teachers hiring. As shown by Elijah Kimani analysis Turkanas will be even more disadvantaged especially given the reversal of delocalization policy.

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2022, 04:31:04 PM »
I like Elijah data speaks. The ASAL leaders need to speak up. No one else will speak for them. They also need to chip in building teacher colleges - and see if they can even hire untrained teachers or get Bridges alternative for their schools. CDF suppose to chip in too.

End of the day - public education should not be fancy - but as practical as possible - should work with kind of schools we got in turkana and slums - and leave middle class to try private academies.

Bridge is in the urban slums which fair far better than Turkanas and Wajirs. The Working party should have offered advisory on TSC teachers hiring. As shown by Elijah Kimani analysis Turkanas will be even more disadvantaged especially given the reversal of delocalization policy.

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2023, 03:10:33 PM »
Confusion galore! Very costly to the kids and parents in the schools which lack basic facilities to host JSS.

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2023, 08:31:22 PM »
This is something that needs CAREFUL analysis. Moi rushed 844 and its been a disaster due to lack of planning and tuning to cater to changing societal needs.
844 was good but policy makers did not study it hard enough and tweek it as time went.

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Re: CBC taskforce
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2023, 02:03:44 AM »
This is something that needs CAREFUL analysis. Moi rushed 844 and its been a disaster due to lack of planning and tuning to cater to changing societal needs.
844 was good but policy makers did not study it hard enough and tweek it as time went.
8.4.4 had been,tweaked after 39 years it was unrecognizable from the 8.4.4 moi introduced. uhuru should have radically tweaked 8.4.4 further not introduce this cbc nonsense. cbc is government effort to create a hierarchy in education by kraaling the poor into blue. collar work