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Re: My story about Ruto.
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2022, 05:13:30 PM »
People survived without cell phones a few years ago and can survive without alcohol and drugs. I think he should outlaw it and let the country throw tantrums for 2 years, and after 3 to 4 years, most people will call it "The most genius move." Alcohol, not corruption, is Kenya's number one problem!
There is a way to do it without ruffling feathers. Pass policies and tax laws that eventually make alcohol very expensive. If beer bottles retail at 1200-1700 Ksh, people will slowly quit over time!
When folk gravitates to local brew, treat it as bhang and hard drugs by lengthy prison sentences!
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2022, 05:24:07 PM »
I have seen that Kamanda is quoting Hasla on pombe. Digs at ufool, saying alcohol has destroyed the country.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2022, 05:32:31 PM »
Prohibition never worked even in the US. It is eventually very expensive. There are already laws banning sale of alcohol near schools and residential areas. Drinking hours are regulated.

Local manufacturing of alcohol is a low hanging hasora cottage industry which can employ hundreds of thousands and be taxed.
What we need is affordable beers not suicidal spirit/illicit liquors. With people occupied they will drink less as they are required at work.

As a nation we also have to get ways to ensure scum walevi like ufool never again rise to the top. 

People survived without cell phones a few years ago and can survive without alcohol and drugs. I think he should outlaw it and let the country throw tantrums for 2 years, and after 3 to 4 years, most people will call it "The most genius move." Alcohol, not corruption, is Kenya's number one problem!
There is a way to do it without ruffling feathers. Pass policies and tax laws that eventually make alcohol very expensive. If beer bottles retail at 1200-1700 Ksh, people will slowly quit over time!
When folk gravitates to local brew, treat it as bhang and hard drugs by lengthy prison sentences!
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2022, 06:09:29 PM »
Yes we need to strike a delicate balance btw controlling and regulating.Definitely idleness is biggest prob so we have find how to engage people through mass employment

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2022, 04:32:08 AM »
Good luck trying to control alcohol,if it hasnt worked anywhere in the world why would it work in Kenya,alcohol are among man's greatest invention been there since advent of man.
Kibaki was a genius introduced senator keg for the hustlers this has saved many hustlers who would have been wasted by changaa and kumi kumi. Kibaki himself loved white cap.

But it's very surprising now since Ruto is a teetotaler kalenjins now want to sober up instantly including dear pundit very laughable  :D

Ruto should use his enegy in ensuring that alcohol is well regulated and produced not fake bonoko that kills, he should ensure people can afford cheap legal and safe alcohol for consumption otherwise trying to prohibit will make the poor go into kumi kumi and become blind,

Kalenjins have 0 investment in  beer sector, Kalenjin aren't business oriented,thats why Ruto should leave all key economic decisions to GEMA to run.

Beer/alcohol business is a multi billion enterprise for GEMA, any attempt to cut that money would easily lead to liquidation of the initiator  :)

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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2022, 04:47:37 AM »
Good luck trying to control alcohol,if it hasnt worked anywhere in the world why would it work in Kenya,alcohol are among man's greatest invention been there since advent of man.
Kibaki was a genius introduced senator keg for the hustlers this has saved many hustlers who would have been wasted by changaa and kumi kumi. Kibaki himself loved white cap.

But it's very surprising now since Ruto is a teetotaler kalenjins now want to sober up instantly including dear pundit very laughable  :D

Ruto should use his enegy in ensuring that alcohol is well regulated and produced not fake bonoko that kills, he should ensure people can afford cheap legal and safe alcohol for consumption otherwise trying to prohibit will make the poor go into kumi kumi and become blind,

Kalenjins have 0 investment in  beer sector, Kalenjin aren't business oriented,thats why Ruto should leave all key economic decisions to GEMA to run.

Beer/alcohol business is a multi billion enterprise for GEMA, any attempt to cut that money would easily lead to liquidation of the initiator  :)
kibaki didn't start keg...keg was started by moi  regime with eabl...GEMA has serious alcohol and drug problem affecting it's young men....if you continue this way...you women will sure luhya n luo kids for you.For one alcohol den....how many lives get destroyed.Stop talking like an idiot and think.Ruto cannot just sit like Uhuru or kibaki....watch generations get wasted by miraa, alcohol and bettings.He will act like Moi did.Moi saved Kenya from Kenyatta mass alcoholism.How many merus are dealing with drug abuse....many...I drink but responsibly.The laws are there... counties need to stamp it out.... implement the drug control laws... build rehab centers in every county

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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2022, 04:57:12 AM »
Keg was started by kibaki..it appears..will check again

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Re: My story about Ruto.
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2022, 05:22:23 AM »
Good luck trying to control alcohol,if it hasnt worked anywhere in the world why would it work in Kenya,alcohol are among man's greatest invention been there since advent of man.
Kibaki was a genius introduced senator keg for the hustlers this has saved many hustlers who would have been wasted by changaa and kumi kumi. Kibaki himself loved white cap.

But it's very surprising now since Ruto is a teetotaler kalenjins now want to sober up instantly including dear pundit very laughable  :D

Ruto should use his enegy in ensuring that alcohol is well regulated and produced not fake bonoko that kills, he should ensure people can afford cheap legal and safe alcohol for consumption otherwise trying to prohibit will make the poor go into kumi kumi and become blind,

Kalenjins have 0 investment in  beer sector, Kalenjin aren't business oriented,thats why Ruto should leave all key economic decisions to GEMA to run.

Beer/alcohol business is a multi billion enterprise for GEMA, any attempt to cut that money would easily lead to liquidation of the initiator  :)
kibaki didn't start keg...keg was started by moi  regime with eabl...GEMA has serious alcohol and drug problem affecting it's young men....if you continue this way...you women will sure luhya n luo kids for you.For one alcohol den....how many lives get destroyed.Stop talking like an idiot and think.Ruto cannot just sit like Uhuru or kibaki....watch generations get wasted by miraa, alcohol and bettings.He will act like Moi did.Moi saved Kenya from Kenyatta mass alcoholism.How many merus are dealing with drug abuse....many...I drink but responsibly.The laws are there... counties need to stamp it out.... implement the drug control laws... build rehab centers in every county
Funny thing is you might be typing this in a drunken stupor in a bar somewhere celebrating Rutos win.
Bottom line is you can regulate the industry but not control it,its far too powerful for anyone,you can't control alcohol its even in Mecca my friend,when you sober up I will serve you more alcohol  :D
POMBE SI MBAYA WATU NDIO WABAYA.

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Re: My story about Ruto.
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2022, 05:24:08 AM »
Keg was started by kibaki..it appears..will check again
Kibaki was a genius
Ruto needs to match him or do better that way Kenya will near industrized countries in 10 years.
Pundit leave business to us.
Don't worry about the alcohol problem we have,its normal.
Dont worry if our women sire with luos luhyas,mostly those are Kiambu ones but still its nation building.

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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2022, 05:54:01 AM »
Pundit the mlevi number one in Nipate whose sitting room is the bar is  recomending to do away with drinking. Who is drunk now ?
Yeye na Uhuru mambo ya Ulevi wanapelekana one two one.
Abuse of Alcohol and drugs is not done away by banning. There is more into it.

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« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2022, 06:18:33 AM »
It looks like Azimio people are no longer in the forum after Raila kaput!. Now it is time for Kenya Kwanza to find the small differences and chew each other! It will be a boring 2022-2042!
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« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2022, 07:28:06 AM »
Pundit don't be narrow minded the Alcohol industry encompasses almost all sectors of economy. Pause and think.

Think about the farmers that grow sugar, sorghum,wheat,barley etc that are ingredients.

Think about transport sector the trucks vehicles etc uses in delivery ,Isuzu,CMC,Toyota dealership etc,
 inside them thousands of drivers that operate them and their families.
What about the fuel they buy from shell,total,Rubi's,gulf,etc

Think about properties they rent or hire like go downs and other rental blocks to operate the business

Think about hoteliers and restaurants bars etc together with recreation events

Now think about the money they contributed to UDA campaign I have direct knowledge of that.
Think about  Tabitha and Keroche bankrupt but joined UDA because she had a dream her alcohol business can be saved
Think how much money she has spent for UDA yet she is bankrupt

After all that thinking come and comment tomorrow or day after

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« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2022, 08:29:50 AM »

If you notice , its Pundit going after each and every person in Kenya Kwanza maybe with exception of you coz he is a Kalenjin Nationalist. He thinks he owns Ruto because Ruto is a Kalenjin where as its evident Ruto ideals are more of Kenyan Nationalist.
Pundit seems to be having relationship issues in real life. He is of Miguna character fights with everyone inside out including close relatives friends and enemies. He thinks he is the best of the best where as this life one need to be balanced.
Anyway cant blame him as he is a computer geek his early 20s where one forms his character he was only interacting with computers and machines. He wouldnt understand what acceptabilty and persuasition plays in discussion .If you have a contrary opinion yake ni matusi.
We will let him know even if Ruto is a Kalenjin , first and foremost he is Kenyan President, secondly his values and principles are built under vision Kenya. Just look how he has managed to distibute the current posts from DP to Speakers and their deputies in Parliament.
I was really impressed by him giving Kingi Senate speaker post. You saw even ODM senators from coast said to hell with Azimio . Kingi ni wetu. Do you know what this means 5 years down the lane?


It looks like Azimio people are no longer in the forum after Raila kaput!. Now it is time for Kenya Kwanza to find the small differences and chew each other! It will be a boring 2022-2042!

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« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2022, 09:01:52 AM »
My viewss on alcohol has not changed.Please morons use the search function..I support regulation..not banning of alcohol

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« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2022, 09:06:24 AM »
Pundit don't be narrow minded the Alcohol industry encompasses almost all sectors of economy. Pause and think.

Think about the farmers that grow sugar, sorghum,wheat,barley etc that are ingredients.

Think about transport sector the trucks vehicles etc uses in delivery ,Isuzu,CMC,Toyota dealership etc,
 inside them thousands of drivers that operate them and their families.
What about the fuel they buy from shell,total,Rubi's,gulf,etc

Think about properties they rent or hire like go downs and other rental blocks to operate the business

Think about hoteliers and restaurants bars etc together with recreation events

Now think about the money they contributed to UDA campaign I have direct knowledge of that.
Think about  Tabitha and Keroche bankrupt but joined UDA because she had a dream her alcohol business can be saved
Think how much money she has spent for UDA yet she is bankrupt

After all that thinking come and comment tomorrow or day after
You're an idiot if you can equate money to the damage alcohol has done to folks.Somrthing need to be done urgently in kiambu,muranga, Meru and other such areas.I support Waitutu actions on kiambu.I supported Isaac Ruto in bomet stern actions.i supported jubilee 1.0 stern action on alcohol.I supported Moi on that.We cannot allow alcohol,miraa and betting to go out of control.I control my alcohol.I know many who need gov to help control theirs. Uhuru need gov to help control his drug problem.Muthutho laws need implementation

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« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2022, 09:11:06 AM »

If you notice , its Pundit going after each and every person in Kenya Kwanza maybe with exception of you coz he is a Kalenjin Nationalist. He thinks he owns Ruto because Ruto is a Kalenjin where as its evident Ruto ideals are more of Kenyan Nationalist.
Pundit seems to be having relationship issues in real life. He is of Miguna character fights with everyone inside out including close relatives friends and enemies. He thinks he is the best of the best where as this life one need to be balanced.
Anyway cant blame him as he is a computer geek his early 20s where one forms his character he was only interacting with computers and machines. He wouldnt understand what acceptabilty and persuasition plays in discussion .If you have a contrary opinion yake ni matusi.
We will let him know even if Ruto is a Kalenjin , first and foremost he is Kenyan President, secondly his values and principles are built under vision Kenya. Just look how he has managed to distibute the current posts from DP to Speakers and their deputies in Parliament.
I was really impressed by him giving Kingi Senate speaker post. You saw even ODM senators from coast said to hell with Azimio . Kingi ni wetu. Do you know what this means 5 years down the lane?


It looks like Azimio people are no longer in the forum after Raila kaput!. Now it is time for Kenya Kwanza to find the small differences and chew each other! It will be a boring 2022-2042!
You're simping online.Folks know me.I have not changed for 20yrs online...used this same moniker and my ideas remain.Why would I want to own Ruto.I want Ruto to do certain things for Kenya... including a little bit of discipline and responsibility in our reckless society.How can someone develop kiambu without fixing obvious drug menace.Waitutu without much education realized that was top priority..Ruto will fail if he tries to be loved like Uhuru...the hardwork that about to start can only happen if Ruto stretches the limit of what dictatorship can happen in our democracy.If people drink they way they want... problems .Uhuru will no become the most hated person..by both sides...Luo crew are just slowly turning on him claiming he failed them...Uda crew if course see his betrayal...so someone who started trying to get loved by everyone...will end up hated by everyone.Ruto should from next week crack the whip.. transformation will not happen without citizens doing their part.

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« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2022, 09:21:52 AM »
Ruto himself has lost a brother to alcohol..liver disease.Many families in Kenya are grappling with one or two brothers mostly battling drug abuse.It need to be top priority.We need to control and regulate.We need rehab centers.We need to preach against it.Chiefs should crackdown.Gov should do something to keep people busy.. make sure bars don't open daytime...I would even move the opening hours from 5 to 7....this way nobody get see any drunkard person daytime.

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« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2022, 09:59:07 AM »

I remember him , he was frequent during Karaoke Nights at Tropez/Tribeka. He seemed an okei guy but you could see him battling with some demons.  A far cry from his brilliant brother.

Ruto himself has lost a brother to alcohol..liver disease.Many families in Kenya are grappling with one or two brothers mostly battling drug abuse.It need to be top priority.We need to control and regulate.We need rehab centers.We need to preach against it.Chiefs should crackdown.Gov should do something to keep people busy.. make sure bars don't open daytime...I would even move the opening hours from 5 to 7....this way nobody get see any drunkard person daytime.

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« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2022, 10:00:39 AM »
Maina Kamanda blames our economic problem on leadership by Ulevi. He is right


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« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2022, 10:06:41 AM »
Alcohol abuse destroy mostly brilliant people - turn them into madmen. Most Kalenjin cannot digest alcohol - and very suspectible to alcoholism. You dont see a lot of alcohol problem in proper bantu countries like Uganda or Luhyaland or such areas. However you will see it parts of Kenya with lots of gene flow from Northern Africa - and in South Africa - the bantus there have Khoisan or aboriginal blood - who are even more hopeless drunks.

In the US - the aboroginal (red indians) cannot digest alcohol - and have been completely destroyed by it. Russians and Europeans can drink it for lunch - but most of us cannot.

Special attention is required in Kenya - esp in Rift valley and GEMA regions - to deal with alcohol abuse! In Western kenya - I lived there - it non issue. Luhya drink alcohol - rarely do you find people who are hopelessly drunk. In Uganda - they drink more heavily - I rarely saw alcoholics.

If a Somali drink alcohol - they will probably collapse - because alcohol is totally alien to their digestive system.

Same with cocaine or heroine - Europeans can snort and go to work - a african will become hopeless addict if he attempts.

I remember him , he was frequent during Karaoke Nights at Tropez/Tribeka. He seemed an okei guy but you could see him battling with some demons.  A far cry from his brilliant brother.