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RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« on: August 12, 2022, 11:44:20 AM »
How has Natembeya pulled it off given the ethnic makeup? Is it not like Nakuru - impossible to beat KK

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Former Regional Commissioner George Natembeya has won after garnering 158,919 votes.

His competitor Chris Wamalwa of Ford Kenya came in second with 79,020 votes.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2022-08-12-governor-race-list-of-winners/
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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2022, 11:46:25 AM »
Ford-K gov -outgoing totally disappointed dev wise - and Chris sat knowing with Weta and Ruto support he was home.

UDA won the senate and women rep

So problem was Chris Wamalwa

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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2022, 11:47:09 AM »
This beating was thorough, its a pity he couldn't convert some of those votes to baba

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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2022, 11:49:26 AM »
How come Khaemba easily retained the seat in 2017? Were all Bukusu FordK
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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2022, 11:50:47 AM »
Yes most Bukusu are ford-k - Ruto Jubilee were backing Kaikai - anyway I wonder if DAP has MCAS - or Natembeya will soon get impeached.
How come Khaemba easily retained the seat in 2017? Were all Bukusu FordK

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2022, 11:50:56 AM »
This beating was thorough, its a pity he couldn't convert some of those votes to baba

Baba is leading in TN
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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2022, 11:53:01 AM »
don't underestimate Natembeya he is Michuki or Matiang'i type - he can deliver if MCAs give him some rope.

Yes most Bukusu are ford-k - Ruto Jubilee were backing Kaikai - anyway I wonder if DAP has MCAS - or Natembeya will soon get impeached.
How come Khaemba easily retained the seat in 2017? Were all Bukusu FordK
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2022, 11:56:03 AM »
Ruto if he is PORK and kalenjin nation will not give him time unless he repents. They will go for his neck.
don't underestimate Natembeya he is Michuki or Matiang'i type - he can deliver if MCAs give him some rope.

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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2022, 12:02:29 PM »
Ruto is not petty like you and RVHH insist. He will focus on GoK national affairs.

Anyway am waiting for Pragmatic to explain Atwoli-Eugene factor  :) TN Bukusu are stark from Bungoma.
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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2022, 12:13:28 PM »
Natembeya like Sakaja won on his own merit. Otherwise Ford-UDA deal delivered Senate and women rep. Chris self-entitlment was his downfall.

DAP is Eugene/Uhuru. Atwoli is more Raila - he delivered many ODM mps.

Ruto is not petty like you and RVHH insist. He will focus on GoK national affairs.

Anyway am waiting for Pragmatic to explain Atwoli-Eugene factor  :) TN Bukusu are stark from Bungoma.

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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2022, 12:20:18 PM »
I have a distant family in the Cherangany area. I don't know whether his analysis is accurate. He claims that there was widespread propaganda in the villages that Natembeya was not fully Luhya but had Kalenjin blood. A lot of Kalenjins voted for him over Wamalwa. I doubt it is true but in politics, politicians create propaganda easily to win. He also had the backing of Kipruto Kirwa who is a respected Elder in Trans Nzoia! I think that made him cross the line. All he needed was a few thousand Kales votes.
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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2022, 12:22:27 PM »
Natembeya speak Kiswahili like Maa or Kalenjin - he could be a Sakaja - Wamalwa were not Bukusu - lots of Bukusu-Sabaot half half

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2022, 12:27:03 PM »
I have a distant family in the Cherangany area. I don't know whether his analysis is accurate. He claims that there was widespread propaganda in the villages that Natembeya was not fully Luhya but had Kalenjin blood. A lot of Kalenjins voted for him over Wamalwa. I doubt it is true but in politics, politicians create propaganda easily to win. He also had the backing of Kipruto Kirwa who is a respected Elder in Trans Nzoia! I think that made him cross the line. All he needed was a few thousand Kales votes.

 8) we were counting on this myth to save Lee Moi. Kalenjin can be fickle.. and very democratic.
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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2022, 12:31:09 PM »
That idiot started taking Nakuru to Mt kenya. Now Nakuru is Mt kenya. People like Lee - he has scored very high - but upuzi yake of talking too much - instead of letting his work speak for him.

Lee mistake no 1) Taking Nakuru to GEMA openly and shamelessly 2) Bringing Raila to Nakuru every week

Maendeleo and Leadership AKO SAWA - SIASA YA UFALA has finished him


 8) we were counting on this myth to save Lee Moi. Kalenjin can be fickle.. and very democratic.

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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2022, 12:42:40 PM »

Lees mistake was BBI and when he knew Kihika was likely to be Ruyos candidate .He went full blast Pro Raila.
He should have done a Waiguru and faught for it within. He made it easier for Kihika by going Azimio.
That idiot started taking Nakuru to Mt kenya. Now Nakuru is Mt kenya. People like Lee - he has scored very high - but upuzi yake of talking too much - instead of letting his work speak for him.

Lee mistake no 1) Taking Nakuru to GEMA openly and shamelessly 2) Bringing Raila to Nakuru every week

Maendeleo and Leadership AKO SAWA - SIASA YA UFALA has finished him


 8) we were counting on this myth to save Lee Moi. Kalenjin can be fickle.. and very democratic.

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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2022, 12:53:47 PM »
Yes most Bukusu are ford-k - Ruto Jubilee were backing Kaikai - anyway I wonder if DAP has MCAS - or Natembeya will soon get impeached.
How come Khaemba easily retained the seat in 2017? Were all Bukusu FordK

   There was a feeling that Chris is very arrogant.  Natembeya was very approachable. I was in Kitale on Saturday and you could tell Chris was going to lose.  Here are the MCAs
      KIMININI
1.Sirende- Weswa.(DAP)
2.Waitaluk- Furaha.(FK)
3.Hospital-Erick.(DAP)
4.Kiminini.-Amwai (FK)
5.Sikhendu.-Kutitila (DAP)
6.Nabiswa- Jamanur(DAP)

SABOTI
7.Saboti-Cheloti (DAP)
8.Kinyoro-Kipekee (UDA)
9.Matisi-Obed (ANC)
10.Tuwan-Dady Were (ODM)
11.Machewa-.Wabwa (FK)

ENDEBESS
12.Endebess-. Kibet (UDA)
13.Machewa-Margaret (UDA)
14.Chepchoina-.Chakali (UDA)

KWANZA
15.Kapomboi-Kefa (UDA)
16.Keiyo -Mugush (ODM)
17.Kwanza-Lubano (DAP)
18.Bidii-Kangi (UDA)

CHERA
19.Sinyerere-Makhanu(DAP)
20.Sitatunga-Murei(UDA)
21.Makutano-Gitonga(UDA)
22.Motosiet-.Jakline kurgat(UDA)
23.Kaplamai-Mosbei(UDA)
24.Kiptoror-Birir (UDA)
25.Suwerwa-Koech(UDA)

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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2022, 01:00:30 PM »
UDA perfoming well , confirms that Wetangula like 2012 folloed the electorate to save his career.
We knew that Bukusu wouldnt vote for Raila like they did in 2012 ans 2017.

Yes most Bukusu are ford-k - Ruto Jubilee were backing Kaikai - anyway I wonder if DAP has MCAS - or Natembeya will soon get impeached.
How come Khaemba easily retained the seat in 2017? Were all Bukusu FordK

   There was a feeling that Chris is very arrogant.  Natembeya was very approachable. I was in Kitale on Saturday and you could tell Chris was going to lose.  Here are the MCAs
      KIMININI
1.Sirende- Weswa.(DAP)
2.Waitaluk- Furaha.(FK)
3.Hospital-Erick.(DAP)
4.Kiminini.-Amwai (FK)
5.Sikhendu.-Kutitila (DAP)
6.Nabiswa- Jamanur(DAP)

SABOTI
7.Saboti-Cheloti (DAP)
8.Kinyoro-Kipekee (UDA)
9.Matisi-Obed (ANC)
10.Tuwan-Dady Were (ODM)
11.Machewa-.Wabwa (FK)

ENDEBESS
12.Endebess-. Kibet (UDA)
13.Machewa-Margaret (UDA)
14.Chepchoina-.Chakali (UDA)

KWANZA
15.Kapomboi-Kefa (UDA)
16.Keiyo -Mugush (ODM)
17.Kwanza-Lubano (DAP)
18.Bidii-Kangi (UDA)

CHERA
19.Sinyerere-Makhanu(DAP)
20.Sitatunga-Murei(UDA)
21.Makutano-Gitonga(UDA)
22.Motosiet-.Jakline kurgat(UDA)
23.Kaplamai-Mosbei(UDA)
24.Kiptoror-Birir (UDA)
25.Suwerwa-Koech(UDA)

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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2022, 01:22:28 PM »
The man won fair and square. People chose him. He has some leadership skills. Let him serve his people. Totally unnecessary to start Uhuru games of getting rid of governors you don't like..

Ruto if he is PORK and kalenjin nation will not give him time unless he repents. They will go for his neck.
don't underestimate Natembeya he is Michuki or Matiang'i type - he can deliver if MCAs give him some rope.

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Re: RVHH, Pundit & Pragmatic can you explain Trans Nzoia
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2022, 01:47:46 PM »
Very interesting. From the TV and online clips sounded like Natembeya is the arrogant guy.

These long serving provincial administrators have a dynamic which is making governorship a walk in the park for them. Wambora, Lusaka.

There was a feeling that Chris is very arrogant.  Natembeya was very approachable. I was in Kitale on Saturday and you could tell Chris was going to lose.  Here are the MCAs
     
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