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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2022, 03:19:57 AM »
Habari my friend and I mean it. Ruto just announced that he  cannot win in 2022. Even in the most mature democracy like US, no one interested in becoming the president can announce he is going to prosecute the serving president. Ruto is not stupid. He has transitioned to opposition leader and you guys need to do the same. This election is over. We should be talking about whether Ruto can run again in 2027.
Thanks, I am glad I did not bother to watch or read.  I forgot a long time ago that he is even running for president. I am only reminded when I open up Nipate to hear Pundit say the same thing over and over again.  This presidential race was over a long time ago, we are just waiting for RAO and Martha to be inaugurated.

Ruto lacks the gravitas or credibility to speak on any issue in Kenya. I watched his speech and fell asleep halfway, that speech can become a very good tool for torturing prisoners. I tried to read the written copy, so many spelling and grammatical errors, it must have been hurriedly cobbled by Ndii. Raila at least has some gravitas on issues of human rights and has battle scars to show for it.
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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2022, 03:59:13 AM »
Habari my friend and I mean it. Ruto just announced that he  cannot win in 2022. Even in the most mature democracy like US, no one interested in becoming the president can announce he is going to prosecute the serving president. Ruto is not stupid. He has transitioned to opposition leader and you guys need to do the same. This election is over. We should be talking about whether Ruto can run again in 2027.
Thanks, I am glad I did not bother to watch or read.  I forgot a long time ago that he is even running for president. I am only reminded when I open up Nipate to hear Pundit say the same thing over and over again.  This presidential race was over a long time ago, we are just waiting for RAO and Martha to be inaugurated.

Ruto lacks the gravitas or credibility to speak on any issue in Kenya. I watched his speech and fell asleep halfway, that speech can become a very good tool for torturing prisoners. I tried to read the written copy, so many spelling and grammatical errors, it must have been hurriedly cobbled by Ndii. Raila at least has some gravitas on issues of human rights and has battle scars to show for it.
kichwa my friend eti nini
Uhuru has been hostile to Ruto presidential bid for 5yrs because he wanted to succeed himself..that has not stopped Ruto..with a month to go..Ruto is confident that lameduck can do nothing..he already played his cards....he can't touch Ruto in political ground... chebukati is next player.He has no deep state or system as it appears he is now isolated in his gov.Power is taken.At this point if he was moi in 2002 the only card he had left was to hand to military or instigate war...uhuru posses no such card or leverage..in short we are taking him to jail apende asipende.Read Moses kuria rants... uhuru is done...zero political leverage... zero system leverage...his politics advisor Nancy has run away.Uhuru last card manual register is in ICU.Attempts to manipulate register were thwarted but he might try again...great thing chebukati doesn't listen to him.In short he is now in no man's land

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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2022, 04:03:19 AM »
Habari my friend and I mean it. Ruto just announced that he  cannot win in 2022. Even in the most mature democracy like US, no one interested in becoming the president can announce he is going to prosecute the serving president. Ruto is not stupid. He has transitioned to opposition leader and you guys need to do the same. This election is over. We should be talking about whether Ruto can run again in 2027.
Thanks, I am glad I did not bother to watch or read.  I forgot a long time ago that he is even running for president. I am only reminded when I open up Nipate to hear Pundit say the same thing over and over again.  This presidential race was over a long time ago, we are just waiting for RAO and Martha to be inaugurated.

Ruto lacks the gravitas or credibility to speak on any issue in Kenya. I watched his speech and fell asleep halfway, that speech can become a very good tool for torturing prisoners. I tried to read the written copy, so many spelling and grammatical errors, it must have been hurriedly cobbled by Ndii. Raila at least has some gravitas on issues of human rights and has battle scars to show for it.
kichwa my friend eti nini
Pure bullshit! Biden said the same thing about Trump, and he won big time. If I remember well, Trump said the same something about Obama and went ahead and won. DP is winning this thing because Raila has not won 5 times in a row. Science argues that someone running for the first time has better chances than someone who has tried more than three times. That is where the three strikes and you are out rule originated from.
The future belongs to those who have a quarter of the character and integrity of RV Heavy Hitter!

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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2022, 04:07:48 AM »
Infact the galloping coming their way in parliament is more serious than in national elections...their attempt to zone out candidate died.This one is kaput

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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2022, 12:42:39 PM »

Uhuru is negotiating with Uhuru. These are how negotiations go by.
Whereas RVPundit still thinks they will touch Uhuru.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/ruto-the-day-i-almost-slapped-uhuru-3867200

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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2022, 12:56:31 PM »
You dont negotiate from a point of weakness.
He has no leverage.
Those are not negotiations - those are PLEADINGS FOR MERCY.

What will Kenyatta give Ruto now? What can he do to hurt Ruto? Almost nothing.

Ruto has Mt kenya, Ruto has inflitrated deep state and systems, Ruto has IEBC, Ruto has the numbers, Ruto has the money!

What will Uhuru use to negotiate? The window of negotiation PASSED LONG TIME AGO - now Ruto is winning apende asipende.

Moi went to Kibaki and made it clear that he would forment a military rule or a secession war if he dared touched him. THAT IS LEVERAGE.
Moi was backed by Kalenjin - he had political leverage - the security force was full of Moi loyalist who were equally scared of Kibaki - and name it - Moi had the systems & deep state.

Uhuru has NOTHING. He is crying for mercy. Ruto is not in business of being merciful. Uhuru only option is to share the loot with Ruto or he is done....Ruto will demand even 70% of Kenyatta empire.

First he must compensate Ruto for 1,000 acres in Ruai - by cutting him 3,000 acres in Northland city.

If not Ruto will crush him - and because he is so good in propaganda - Ichweri people will be very happy :)


Uhuru is negotiating with Uhuru. These are how negotiations go by.
Whereas RVPundit still thinks they will touch Uhuru.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/ruto-the-day-i-almost-slapped-uhuru-3867200

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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2022, 01:08:40 PM »

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-07-03-ruto-under-fire-over-alleged-plan-to-probe-uhuru-if-elected/

Ruto's presidential running mate Rigathi Gachagua also weighed on the reports and said they have no problem with the president.

He said they will allow him to retire in peace as they focus on turning around the economy of the country.

"Mr President, we have no problem with you. We will let you retire in peace and we won't get you in trouble if we take over the country's leadership," he said.


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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2022, 01:11:29 PM »
Dont be desperate. Those are PR. Ruto job is to finish Uhuru smoothly and professionally.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-07-03-ruto-under-fire-over-alleged-plan-to-probe-uhuru-if-elected/

Ruto's presidential running mate Rigathi Gachagua also weighed on the reports and said they have no problem with the president.

He said they will allow him to retire in peace as they focus on turning around the economy of the country.

"Mr President, we have no problem with you. We will let you retire in peace and we won't get you in trouble if we take over the country's leadership," he said.



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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2022, 01:18:33 PM »

RVPundit go slow on chest thumping.First you are not Ruto and secondly Ruto and Uhuru are politicians and friends. No love lost just like Kibaki and Moi were friends .
In as much as we detest Uhuru one thing is clear the man is the current President and is  loaded and can become lethal if he wants too especially when he comes under threat.
You talk of Military as if all commanders there have their allegiance under Ruto.
Be realistic Ruto and Uhurus wives are girlfriends , Uhurus and Rutos children are family friends.
Uhuru made a pact with Raila for second term Governance. It never went down well with Ruto and Jubilee supporters. Some Government Operatives went personal but Uhuru just let Ruto be .
Hawa ni marafiki wa kufa kufaana during Rutos Inaguration in Sep 2022 utajionea how they will be Lovey Dovey.


You dont negotiate from a point of weakness.
He has no leverage.
Those are not negotiations - those are PLEADINGS FOR MERCY.

What will Kenyatta give Ruto now? What can he do to hurt Ruto? Almost nothing.

Ruto has Mt kenya, Ruto has inflitrated deep state and systems, Ruto has IEBC, Ruto has the numbers, Ruto has the money!

What will Uhuru use to negotiate? The window of negotiation PASSED LONG TIME AGO - now Ruto is winning apende asipende.

Moi went to Kibaki and made it clear that he would forment a military rule or a secession war if he dared touched him. THAT IS LEVERAGE.
Moi was backed by Kalenjin - he had political leverage - the security force was full of Moi loyalist who were equally scared of Kibaki - and name it - Moi had the systems & deep state.

Uhuru has NOTHING. He is crying for mercy. Ruto is not in business of being merciful. Uhuru only option is to share the loot with Ruto or he is done....Ruto will demand even 70% of Kenyatta empire.

First he must compensate Ruto for 1,000 acres in Ruai - by cutting him 3,000 acres in Northland city.

If not Ruto will crush him - and because he is so good in propaganda - Ichweri people will be very happy :)


Uhuru is negotiating with Uhuru. These are how negotiations go by.
Whereas RVPundit still thinks they will touch Uhuru.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/ruto-the-day-i-almost-slapped-uhuru-3867200

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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2022, 01:21:19 PM »

Speaking for Ruto and Gachagua as who ?
Ruto has been Uhuru supporter since 1999 until he became his SG and became his DP
Gachagua has been Uhurus drink mate for over 30 years and at one time his personal assistant.
RVPundit whats your relation with Ruto ?
Dont get your analysis get over your head.

Dont be desperate. Those are PR. Ruto job is to finish Uhuru smoothly and professionally.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-07-03-ruto-under-fire-over-alleged-plan-to-probe-uhuru-if-elected/

Ruto's presidential running mate Rigathi Gachagua also weighed on the reports and said they have no problem with the president.

He said they will allow him to retire in peace as they focus on turning around the economy of the country.

"Mr President, we have no problem with you. We will let you retire in peace and we won't get you in trouble if we take over the country's leadership," he said.



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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2022, 01:26:03 PM »
Which are these military commanders willing to cover up this level of shit? For what?

The army generals can only implement well thought out orders. Just look at the mess Badi has made out of NMS except for the hospitals.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2022, 01:37:40 PM »
My job is to help you understands things. Not to sugarcoat.
Ruto and Uhuru are no longer friends.
Ruto has attempted for 5yrs to finish Ruto.
Ruto survived not because of the magnamnity of Uhuru but because he is very very strong.
Now it's time for Uhuru to get finished.
Uhuru did not even spare Gachagau - his own PA - he had all his account blocked, charged and has active court case.
Gachagua could possibly lose all his wealth.
Ruto has been humiliated - beyond number.
Uhuru has tried everything - even changing 1000kshs - blocked Ruto from even going to Uganda - took his 1,000 acres land in Ruaia (do you know how much that is worth MORON)
Has attempted to take his 2 acre Weston hotel
Locked Ruto clothes in Mombasa statehouse
Stop financing even tea in Karen...Ruto uses his money to fuel cars for two years now.

Ruto friends or anyone who talked to Ruto similarly faced assaulted from all corners.

MY FRIEND - JUST BECAUSE RUTO IS A REAL MAN WHO HAS TAKEN UHURU BLOWS LIKE A TOTAL MAN
DO NOT THINK RUTO HAS NOT SUFFERED.

He has suffered greatly - and worse from a gov he helped formed.

KENYATTA IS FINISHED. FINITO. DONE. KAPUT.

He can choose to go to exile or wait for his throat to be slit.



RVPundit go slow on chest thumping.First you are not Ruto and secondly Ruto and Uhuru are politicians and friends. No love lost just like Kibaki and Moi were friends .
In as much as we detest Uhuru one thing is clear the man is the current President and is  loaded and can become lethal if he wants too especially when he comes under threat.
You talk of Military as if all commanders there have their allegiance under Ruto.
Be realistic Ruto and Uhurus wives are girlfriends , Uhurus and Rutos children are family friends.
Uhuru made a pact with Raila for second term Governance. It never went down well with Ruto and Jubilee supporters. Some Government Operatives went personal but Uhuru just let Ruto be .
Hawa ni marafiki wa kufa kufaana during Rutos Inaguration in Sep 2022 utajionea how they will be Lovey Dovey.


You dont negotiate from a point of weakness.
He has no leverage.
Those are not negotiations - those are PLEADINGS FOR MERCY.

What will Kenyatta give Ruto now? What can he do to hurt Ruto? Almost nothing.

Ruto has Mt kenya, Ruto has inflitrated deep state and systems, Ruto has IEBC, Ruto has the numbers, Ruto has the money!

What will Uhuru use to negotiate? The window of negotiation PASSED LONG TIME AGO - now Ruto is winning apende asipende.

Moi went to Kibaki and made it clear that he would forment a military rule or a secession war if he dared touched him. THAT IS LEVERAGE.
Moi was backed by Kalenjin - he had political leverage - the security force was full of Moi loyalist who were equally scared of Kibaki - and name it - Moi had the systems & deep state.

Uhuru has NOTHING. He is crying for mercy. Ruto is not in business of being merciful. Uhuru only option is to share the loot with Ruto or he is done....Ruto will demand even 70% of Kenyatta empire.

First he must compensate Ruto for 1,000 acres in Ruai - by cutting him 3,000 acres in Northland city.

If not Ruto will crush him - and because he is so good in propaganda - Ichweri people will be very happy :)


Uhuru is negotiating with Uhuru. These are how negotiations go by.
Whereas RVPundit still thinks they will touch Uhuru.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/ruto-the-day-i-almost-slapped-uhuru-3867200

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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2022, 01:40:18 PM »
Politics ni cutthroat.
Gachagua - Uhuru bankrupted him - blocked his account - its just that Gachagua got intelligence earlier and moved his 7B
Uhuru got 200M.

Just because Ruto has not cried like you're crying now WOUHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIH Crying crying daily for Kenyatta.

Na BADO FINYWA.

My friend I dont know Ruto personally - but I know enough of him - to know he doesnt joke.

RVHH knows Ruto very very personally - and he confirm that Kenyatta is FINISHED.

Jirongo says Ruto snapped someone neck :)

Ruto has taken a lot - Uhuru has tried everything - anyone who even called or received a call from Ruto was bankrupted or taken to court

There is nothing Uhuru has not tried - even trying to kill Ruto I am sure he has attempted.

That he has not suceeded in 5yrs is his incompetence.

Now Ruto is playing PR until he is elected.

Then you will SEE REAL RUTO.


Speaking for Ruto and Gachagua as who ?
Ruto has been Uhuru supporter since 1999 until he became his SG and became his DP
Gachagua has been Uhurus drink mate for over 30 years and at one time his personal assistant.
RVPundit whats your relation with Ruto ?
Dont get your analysis get over your head.


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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2022, 01:44:50 PM »
He has no leverage. Moi had military because he had stayed on for 25yrs - and had put Kalenjin everywhere in gov - Kalenjin loved him - they were clear Moi was not to be touched for anything- or they would have been war in Kenya. UHuru even  in Ichwaeri people want him finished. HE is HATED by his own people.

ZERO POLITICAL LEVERAGE.

Kenyatta right now even if he call an OCPD - nobody will respect his orders.

He is a lameduck. The same with Kibicho or NIS. People know it's either Raila or Ruto to win.

So he has NO loyalty in gov circles. Ruto and Gachagua you can bet has approached key cogs in the systems and have MOU - so system and deep state 3/4 I can bet work for Ruto & Gachagua. Maybe the Luos & NASA tribes work for Raila - though I doubt Raila or Kibicho know how to work such a system in such a time. They probably think it just issuing orders left right and center...and people will obey lameduck orders.

Which are these military commanders willing to cover up this level of shit? For what?

The army generals can only implement well thought out orders. Just look at the mess Badi has made out of NMS except for the hospitals.

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« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2022, 07:23:23 PM »
RV , you can write many posts with wishful thinking.
I personaly would like all people who have eaten from corruption since time memorial to be answerable but Im being realistic .
These politicians are personal friends , secondly its murky grounds. Ruto touches Uhuru and the next incomimg president will touch Ruto so to avoid that chain cycle they let everything go. We saw with Moi and Kenyatta and Kiambu Mafia. We saw it with Kibaki ans Moi family . Then with Uhuru and Kibakis Mt Kenya Mafia.
What you are saying cant be done by Ruto. Even Ruto appointing Miguna can never happen.

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« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2022, 07:37:07 PM »
RV , you can write many posts with wishful thinking.
I personaly would like all people who have eaten from corruption since time memorial to be answerable but Im being realistic .
These politicians are personal friends , secondly its murky grounds. Ruto touches Uhuru and the next incomimg president will touch Ruto so to avoid that chain cycle they let everything go. We saw with Moi and Kenyatta and Kiambu Mafia. We saw it with Kibaki ans Moi family . Then with Uhuru and Kibakis Mt Kenya Mafia.
What you are saying cant be done by Ruto. Even Ruto appointing Miguna can never happen.

Read Ruto manifesto kwa kipole

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Re: Ruto to uhuru prepare to go to jail
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2022, 09:51:26 PM »
Nowayhaha,
Don't believe in any negotiations. Uhuru tried to bankrupt Ruto from 2018-2021. That is unforgivable and, yes, he will suffer greatly under Ruto's presidency. Uhuru should be at the altar everyday praying for Raila to win because the opposite is severe!
The future belongs to those who have a quarter of the character and integrity of RV Heavy Hitter!

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« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2022, 10:16:23 PM »

RVHH , I follow politics very closely . There are repurcusions for every action a political leader takes.
Ruto has been lucky all through his political journey.
He saw Kibakis policies against former RV politicians and Civil servants.
He saw Raila misadventure in politics from his Anti Gema politics to P.E.V. to ICC politics
I highly doubt he will walk that road of vengeful politics.
Personaly I would like Uhuru to pay for what he has done from 2018 to 2022. but I dont see it happening.


Nowayhaha,
Don't believe in any negotiations. Uhuru tried to bankrupt Ruto from 2018-2021. That is unforgivable and, yes, he will suffer greatly under Ruto's presidency. Uhuru should be at the altar everyday praying for Raila to win because the opposite is severe!

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« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2022, 10:20:33 PM »

RVHH , I follow politics very closely . There are repurcusions for every action a political leader takes.
Ruto has been lucky all through his political journey.
He saw Kibakis policies against former RV politicians and Civil servants.
He saw Raila misadventure in politics from his Anti Gema politics to P.E.V. to ICC politics
I highly doubt he will walk that road of vengeful politics.
Personaly I would like Uhuru to pay for what he has done from 2018 to 2022. but I dont see it happening.


Nowayhaha,
Don't believe in any negotiations. Uhuru tried to bankrupt Ruto from 2018-2021. That is unforgivable and, yes, he will suffer greatly under Ruto's presidency. Uhuru should be at the altar everyday praying for Raila to win because the opposite is severe!
There has never been a politician with Ruto brains since the death of 39 try old Tom mboya.Ruto will do a clean Job and where others lost support he will gain.Understand Ruto incredible talents in propaganda..Ruto will make the beheading so popular people will want many more . Yourself you will be leading the Kenyatta beheading squad possessed by demons.I told many in 2018 that Gatundu will be leading the escort of uhuru to his gallows..look now

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« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2022, 10:24:22 PM »
Tom mboya was like Ruto but even more talented.Tom mboya had to killed because he was incredibly talented.For me Ruto is heir apparent to Tom Mboya..these are extremely rare politicians .The Steve jobs or Elon musk's of politics.Extremely brilliant, orators, name it..they got it.Mboya lacked killer instinct that Ruto posses..and that led to his downfall..he was not paranoid enough to walk freely