Author Topic: Western nation destroying global economy while Russia the target is booming  (Read 2788 times)


Offline Nowayhaha

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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/28/politics/white-house-ukraine-projection/index.html

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all it matters is Russia has lost 36k soldiers versus Ukraine 10k. by the end of this Putin will be in unmarked grave. Africans should suffer vilivyo. nyinyi nyang'au have to stop depending on Europeans.
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Offline Georgesoros

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all it matters is Russia has lost 36k soldiers versus Ukraine 10k. by the end of this Putin will be in unmarked grave. Africans should suffer vilivyo. nyinyi nyang'au have to stop depending on Europeans.

Same people ignore the fact that Kenya has progressed from money being sent by diaspora from Western countries. Not Russia, China and all the crap. Despite being second biggest economy China takes from Africa and dont give much.

Offline Kadudu

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Leave these pessimists to live in their own world. They sing about the West going south and dream of sending their kids to go study there. China is fourth choice and none would ever dream of sending a child to go study in Russia.

Same people ignore the fact that Kenya has progressed from money being sent by diaspora from Western countries. Not Russia, China and all the crap. Despite being second biggest economy China takes from Africa and dont give much.

Offline RV Pundit

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We oppose western policies that harm the global economy or well-being. They are the leaders of the world. China is not causing any global problems - when it did - during covid- we  called it out. If Russia was causing problems - we would. The world is mostly run by US and it's lackeys in Europe - they deserve as much praise as they deserve condemnation.

Western world caused coloniliasm, slavery and many evil things. We cannot just ignore that because Kadudu is eking a honest living in Germany and send coins to his family.

We have a misguided war that is crushing poor countries - making many unable to eat or buy medicine. They should consider poor countries before they impose sanctions that messes global economy. If they want this economic war to continue - no problem - send poor countries money to sustain them.

Otherwise sit down with Russia and Ukraine - sort that mess - before they send us back to stone age.

Leave these pessimists to live in their own world. They sing about the West going south and dream of sending their kids to go study there. China is fourth choice and none would ever dream of sending a child to go study in Russia.

Offline sema

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Kenyans who have never left Kenya need to start traveling to these two countries that they think are so amazing.

I"ve never been to Russia, but I have been to China and it's a shithole.  Anyone thinking it'll become a world power in our lifetime or other lifetime has simply never been to china.  China has two sets of laws -- one set of laws for communist party members and another set of laws for everyone else. It's a police state. Take a walk in any city in China and you'll see it.

Russia is a mafia state. No democracy, no rule of law...a mafia state ruled by Putin and his thugs. This is why nobody trusts the ruble or the yuan (you cannot trust currencies of gangster states where there's no rule of law, no democracy, no open societies and where things are hidden.

You can tell how popular a country is by the number of people that want to immigrate there (where are china and russia on that list?)

Offline RV Pundit

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Internal versus external affairs..who cares about china internal issues..we only care about its foreign policy

Offline Kadudu

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The bitter truth.

China and Russia are wanna be USA. Pundit claims the two have not harmed us, but they would if they could. Both just have their own interests in mind just like the US and othe Western countries. We Africans have to learn to stand on our own two feet and leave that mindset that we need to be helped.

Kenyans who have never left Kenya need to start traveling to these two countries that they think are so amazing.

I"ve never been to Russia, but I have been to China and it's a shithole.  Anyone thinking it'll become a world power in our lifetime or other lifetime has simply never been to china.  China has two sets of laws -- one set of laws for communist party members and another set of laws for everyone else. It's a police state. Take a walk in any city in China and you'll see it.

Russia is a mafia state. No democracy, no rule of law...a mafia state ruled by Putin and his thugs. This is why nobody trusts the ruble or the yuan (you cannot trust currencies of gangster states where there's no rule of law, no democracy, no open societies and where things are hidden.

You can tell how popular a country is by the number of people that want to immigrate there (where are china and russia on that list?)

Offline RV Pundit

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Why are we suffering for war btw Western Nations and Russia?
The bitter truth.

China and Russia are wanna be USA. Pundit claims the two have not harmed us, but they would if they could. Both just have their own interests in mind just like the US and othe Western countries. We Africans have to learn to stand on our own two feet and leave that mindset that we need to be helped.

Offline Kadudu

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Because we are weak and not a united force. Africa has all it needs, oil, food production, manpower etc. We do not trade wit each other. Transporting a container from Mombasa to Kampala costs more than transporting the same container from China to Mombasa. Exporting goods from DRC to Kenya is almost impossible.

Why are we suffering for war btw Western Nations and Russia?

Offline RV Pundit

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Why is Asia suffering yet they have fixed those things? The global economy is interconnected. Western Nations have to try use the UN systems for any sanctions otherwise they are causing problems for everyone.
Because we are weak and not a united force. Africa has all it needs, oil, food production, manpower etc. We do not trade wit each other. Transporting a container from Mombasa to Kampala costs more than transporting the same container from China to Mombasa. Exporting goods from DRC to Kenya is almost impossible.

Offline gout

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Abuse of power by US hurts even American citizens. Look at the destruction of Latin America governments. It hurts Americans through cocaine just the same it hurts the Mexicans, Colombians, Haitians and all hadi Kenyan Coast. Crazy immigration crisis.

Libya destruction has led to immigration crisis in Europe. Nobody no longer talks about Libya or Iraqi oil.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

Offline RV Pundit

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Yes they should be called out on their foreign policy that affect everyone else even if their internal matters are great.
Abuse of power by US hurts even American citizens. Look at the destruction of Latin America governments. It hurts Americans through cocaine just the same it hurts the Mexicans, Colombians, Haitians and all hadi Kenyan Coast. Crazy immigration crisis.

Libya destruction has led to immigration crisis in Europe. Nobody no longer talks about Libya or Iraqi oil.

Offline Georgesoros

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Because we are weak and not a united force. Africa has all it needs, oil, food production, manpower etc. We do not trade wit each other. Transporting a container from Mombasa to Kampala costs more than transporting the same container from China to Mombasa. Exporting goods from DRC to Kenya is almost impossible.

Why are we suffering for war btw Western Nations and Russia?

Exactly. WHy do we have restrictions on goods within Africa? What happened to former swarths of land that used to produce wheat in Nakuru?  Take the land back and lease it to investors at minimal price and then export the food.