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Offline Olekoima

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East African govts to crack down on civil societies, NGOs
« on: November 06, 2014, 12:49:38 PM »
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Re: East African govts to crack down on civil societies, NGOs
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2014, 03:39:01 PM »
They must account for every penny and background check on financiers,

Without Prejudice.

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Re: East African govts to crack down on civil societies, NGOs
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2014, 03:46:50 PM »
Moi was paranoid for the entire 23yrs in office. Maybe Ouru is too.

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Re: East African govts to crack down on civil societies, NGOs
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2014, 08:39:08 PM »
Dictatorships typically accuse NGOs of treason and sedition. Only a reactionary government would see job creation by non governmental circles as subversion. Moi expelled Norwegians who were practically financing Turkana in a fit of anger and envy for not having a share of the loot.

Uhuru and hos co dictators can go to hell. Others before them have tried and failed. They will fail too.
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Offline Olekoima

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Re: East African govts to crack down on civil societies, NGOs
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 10:18:28 AM »
I agree, but NGOs should also stick to their jobs and avoid poking their noses in politics. They should avoid aiding civil societies with money which only ends up being abused.

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Re: East African govts to crack down on civil societies, NGOs
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2014, 12:27:20 PM »
Russia banned ALL NGOS and Putin is the most powerful man on earth.

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Re: East African govts to crack down on civil societies, NGOs
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2014, 02:48:25 PM »
Would you say speaking out against EJK is "politics" or not? How about speaking out on the Mau Evictions? Could opposing the illegal curfew in Lamu be politics? How about Uhuru promoting hate against the ICC?

Now if an NGO went to Narok and started water projects to help residents. If the local MP accuses the NGO of politics what would be your opinion?

You are missing the point because "NGO" means many things in the eyes of different people. For many it is another word for foreigners. I reality NGOs which include Community Based organizations such as Chama and Cooperatives are organizations started by people. They are not government departments and are outside the dictates of the authorities. That is why they are NGOs.

Laws that limit the amount of money NGOs can get are inherently un democratic. It is the same as setting limits to how much a Kenyan abroad to remit to relatives at home. This archaic and even Moi did not contemplate that. Of course it will not work. We have seen this before in draconian states.

When Moi targeted Wangari Maathai, she had her funds coming in via Tanzania. Money can come in via diplomatic bag. We have ways of having local International Companies get paid abroad in exchange for dishing out local currency. NGOs will simply go to those "exchanges". The loser will be GoK.


I agree, but NGOs should also stick to their jobs and avoid poking their noses in politics. They should avoid aiding civil societies with money which only ends up being abused.
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Re: East African govts to crack down on civil societies, NGOs
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2014, 04:41:03 PM »
Russia banned ALL NGOS and Putin is the most powerful man on earth.

And he's evil.