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Offline sema

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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2022, 10:05:41 PM »
He will steal it and keep it for himself.  Some things about ruto remain the same.

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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2022, 10:43:59 PM »
10 percent belong to the Ceasar - if someone give you 1million acres and reward himself na kitu kidogo :) sio mbaya compared to someone who give nothing does nothing - uzembe tu- so hapo ndio siasa ya kenya imefika
Quote from: sema on May 27, 2022, 10:05:41 PM
He will steal it and keep it for himself.  Some things about ruto remain the same.

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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2022, 07:15:46 AM »
 8) once again this thread just confirm you as watermelon more than Kalonzo. So who has big anti-Moi & -Kenyatta axe to grind - demonstrably - Raila or Ruto?
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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2022, 08:51:47 AM »
Ruto is not hidding his axe. Raila has huge axe he is concealing but is given to outburst like when he calls Moi takataka.
For Raila - it personal beef of 10yrs in jail - Ruto is just small tiff when Uhuru sliced him for 5yrs in power.
Ruto - has made state capture by Moi and Kenyatta key plank of his campaign...nothing personal..it business.
They will get paid the money and land given to locals.
Raila will take it for free.
Quote from: Robina on May 28, 2022, 07:15:46 AM
8) once again this thread just confirm you as watermelon more than Kalonzo. So who has big anti-Moi & -Kenyatta axe to grind - demonstrably - Raila or Ruto?

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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2022, 11:36:29 AM »
Quote from: Robina on May 28, 2022, 07:15:46 AM
8) once again this thread just confirm you as watermelon more than Kalonzo. So who has big anti-Moi & -Kenyatta axe to grind - demonstrably - Raila or Ruto?

No one has an axe to grind, not Raila, not Ruto. Only Pundit. :D (And Noway, too) If there's any constant anyone can objectively draw from .ke siasa is that these folk are ready to deal (with anyone at any time). 'Permanent interests and ZERO permanent enemies' is the singular rule of Kenyan siasa. Between politicians and even the tribes following them. Amazing that our Pundit with his 20 years experience misses such a glaring, stubborn pattern. :D

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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2022, 12:56:59 PM »
Continue dreaming. Review the last 5yrs of Uhuru and handshake. See how many Ruto allied folks are crying now. Dont delude yourself. Politics is cutthroat. Now if mlevi can give hell his opponents - what about someone super efficient like Ruto. Go back to Kibaki guys. And that was soft transition btw two friends.
Quote from: Dear Mami on May 28, 2022, 11:36:29 AM
No one has an axe to grind, not Raila, not Ruto. Only Pundit. :D (And Noway, too) If there's any constant anyone can objectively draw from .ke siasa is that these folk are ready to deal (with anyone at any time). 'Permanent interests and ZERO permanent enemies' is the singular rule of Kenyan siasa. Between politicians and even the tribes following them. Amazing that our Pundit with his 20 years experience misses such a glaring, stubborn pattern. :D

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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2022, 02:45:20 PM »
Just Assets Recovery rushing to court and telling Kenyan worth more than 100 million plus to explain source of wealth, will nail 75%. KRA will nail another 20%.

Now go to the dollar billionaire dynasties out of favour.  Just Sudi moving a motion in parliament saying Fuliza/Mshwari debts are usury and are forgiven will have Kenyattas and Ndegwas gasping for air.

Reason ufool is ready to work with baba and the only 'man' in Obako government.  Reason we will be hearing any Ruto and Gachagua word being twisted for days. Just simple words mean terror already.
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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2022, 03:37:06 PM »
Exactly - it takes few days to dismantle their wealth - it could take even hours for some. Ask SportPesa :) - they just cut their m-pesa link
Quote from: gout on May 28, 2022, 02:45:20 PM
Just Assets Recovery rushing to court and telling Kenyan worth more than 100 million plus to explain source of wealth, will nail 75%. KRA will nail another 20%.

Now go to the dollar billionaire dynasties out of favour.  Just Sudi moving a motion in parliament saying Fuliza/Mshwari debts are usury and are forgiven will have Kenyattas and Ndegwas gasping for air.

Reason ufool is ready to work with baba and the only 'man' in Obako government.  Reason we will be hearing any Ruto and Gachagua word being twisted for days. Just simple words mean terror already.

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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2022, 12:41:29 PM »
Land issues are not complex to solve in Kenya. The auditor general reports have been clear on assets including public lands.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/big-names-in-kenya-prisons-kitale-land-grab-list-3830704

Ruto has to start by giving away this 2,500 fruit from a poisoned tree in Taita instead of stories.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/how-william-ruto-has-found-himself-in-the-murky-world-of-basil-criticos-in-taveta-3830498
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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2022, 09:50:42 PM »
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Ask SportPesa :) - they just cut their m-pesa link

But they've all already made their millions including karauri so who cares? I'd be worried if I were him (at least the bulgarians are not stuck in kenya) but what of the other gambling agencies? Why was sports pesa singled out?

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Re: Ruto to nationalize Moi and Kenyatta land
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2022, 09:55:42 PM »
I dont know - maybe Ruto had share in it and Uhuru was trying to dismantle him - but its very likely other players wanted to level the playing ground - now betting pie is being shared - before sportpesa was the defacto.

Quote from: sema on May 31, 2022, 09:50:42 PM
But they've all already made their millions including karauri so who cares? I'd be worried if I were him (at least the bulgarians are not stuck in kenya) but what of the other gambling agencies? Why was sports pesa singled out?
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