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Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« on: May 20, 2022, 07:33:49 PM »
i see things as going quite bad for KK. With the plainly raw deal Mdvd got for himself & ANC. Now you have UDA in Sabatia.

Is UDA so popular as to beat both ANC and ODM? Guys so confident they need no zoning.
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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2022, 07:36:30 PM »
being confident despite this is insane

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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2022, 07:43:43 PM »
maDVD Agoi should give up and back Akaranga. I saw Akaranga in Karen recently. Once Maragoli merge they win. The problem Akaranga has been wasting maDVD because he has some funny church with strong grassroot network.

Akaranga and Agoi are both Maragolis.
Otichilo is Bunyore
Khaniri a Tiriki.

Maragolis are 50 percent: Bunyore 30%; Tiriki 15%; or about.

It been a battle btw Akaranga church and Mudamba political family -  allowing Bunyore & Tirikis to merge.

As of now - Ruto has to nail a deal with Akaranga - to help maDVD - and he was in karen - so the deal could be cooking

being confident despite this is insane

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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2022, 07:44:59 PM »
Western will vote 65% Azimio.Mudavadi should refund sign fee.

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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2022, 07:47:13 PM »
Dont blurt out figures without even basic of calculations. Numbers should be respected.
Western will vote 65% Azimio.Mudavadi should refund sign fee.

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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2022, 07:49:35 PM »
This the fix that will help maDVD. MaDVD depend on Agoi for ground network as he hides in Nairobi. Akaranga has maragoli network of church.


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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2022, 09:30:26 PM »
I will tell you straight up Mulembe nation is Azimio-nated. This is really Baba's other bedroom.

There is little trouble in Bungoma which needs working on. My Bukusu are not fully in... maybe at 60%... we need to work on this and the problem has really been the fickle representation we had for the past years. ODM did itself in by allowing the zoning in the past 2 elections cycles and thus the likes of Weta and others passed through that collective coalition ticket. Same thing happening now with DAP-K. It also doesn't help that Wangamati (in Bungoma) has not done a really good job, but he will scrape through at razor thin margin. Khaemba in Kitale/Trans-Nzoia has been another disaster. When I say Bungoma, I include Trans-Nzoia.... that swathe is predominantly Bukusu Luhya dominated.

Thumb-suck the rest of Mulembe nation would be 80% Azimio as we speak; any non-Azimio who will pass through will just depend on personal charm or charisma and how the person works the ground. I would say therefore that Mulembe nation will go worst case 70:30 for Baba globally, only because the Bukusu are the largest sub-tribe and need to be worked on as of now.

On zoning for UDA, I think this was just Bill Ruto's hubris and kiburi; you have already seen UDA aligned candidates asking that they be allowed to run their own campaigns without UDA presence/interference; they are feeling the pulse of the ground and are telling Wananchi .....pigia mimi kura, huko juu weka Baba.

i see things as going quite bad for KK. With the plainly raw deal Mdvd got for himself & ANC. Now you have UDA in Sabatia.

Is UDA so popular as to beat both ANC and ODM? Guys so confident they need no zoning.

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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2022, 10:52:48 PM »
It not just tribe - Mdvd has no solid control of Maragoli after his endless blunders. Only Agoi is KK - Otichillo (41%) is ODM, Akaranga (Progressive Party) 26%,  Khaniri (UDP)  11% - are all Azimio or Azimio-leaning. That 75% combo.

Only Agoi is KK - meagre 10%.

Vihiga is akin to Mombasa - where KK put on a show but numbers don't add up.

This is Mdvd home county  8) 8) - and the naked king will somehw deliver Luhya to Ruto.

Kakamega is equally bad for KK - Malala can't stand Barasa-Savula joint force.

maDVD Agoi should give up and back Akaranga. I saw Akaranga in Karen recently. Once Maragoli merge they win. The problem Akaranga has been wasting maDVD because he has some funny church with strong grassroot network.

Akaranga and Agoi are both Maragolis.
Otichilo is Bunyore
Khaniri a Tiriki.

Maragolis are 50 percent: Bunyore 30%; Tiriki 15%; or about.

It been a battle btw Akaranga church and Mudamba political family -  allowing Bunyore & Tirikis to merge.

As of now - Ruto has to nail a deal with Akaranga - to help maDVD - and he was in karen - so the deal could be cooking
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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2022, 11:17:29 PM »
I thought so. I also sense a rebellion - nay, a rejection - of Mdvd due to the extreme dumbness. This scenario of Malala fending off UDA alone while the pompous windbag roams the country with Ruto. Mluhya has been relegated to Ruto underling courtesy of Mdvd. Unforgivable.

I see a wholesome rejection of KK there. I wonder what Mizani will say about Malala vs Barasa.. but just see how well Sifuna is doing vs Wanjiru in Nairobi. Luhya are ready to send Mdvd to the dustbin. The Atwoli they scorn will have the last laugh.

I will tell you straight up Mulembe nation is Azimio-nated. This is really Baba's other bedroom.

There is little trouble in Bungoma which needs working on. My Bukusu are not fully in... maybe at 60%... we need to work on this and the problem has really been the fickle representation we had for the past years. ODM did itself in by allowing the zoning in the past 2 elections cycles and thus the likes of Weta and others passed through that collective coalition ticket. Same thing happening now with DAP-K. It also doesn't help that Wangamati (in Bungoma) has not done a really good job, but he will scrape through at razor thin margin. Khaemba in Kitale/Trans-Nzoia has been another disaster. When I say Bungoma, I include Trans-Nzoia.... that swathe is predominantly Bukusu Luhya dominated.

Thumb-suck the rest of Mulembe nation would be 80% Azimio as we speak; any non-Azimio who will pass through will just depend on personal charm or charisma and how the person works the ground. I would say therefore that Mulembe nation will go worst case 70:30 for Baba globally, only because the Bukusu are the largest sub-tribe and need to be worked on as of now.

On zoning for UDA, I think this was just Bill Ruto's hubris and kiburi; you have already seen UDA aligned candidates asking that they be allowed to run their own campaigns without UDA presence/interference; they are feeling the pulse of the ground and are telling Wananchi .....pigia mimi kura, huko juu weka Baba.
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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2022, 11:43:48 PM »
How long did that take you to research.
MaDVD will deliver Maragoli(half vihiga) and half Kakamega (Ruto has strong game in North of Kakamega - Raila has the South)
That is minimum he can do.
But on the ground - he isnt there - he trust Agoi to do his bidding on the ground.
Rev Akaranga(Maragoli too) has a church with serious grassroot network in Vihiga - that made him win governor and MP.
Ruto seem to have gone for Akaranga to help bolster maDVD.
Akaranga need Ruto/MaDVD to win back governor otherwise if they divide the vote the Bunyore will win.
Akaranga cannot stay in Azimio - he would be handing current governor free re-election.
Bunyore are ODM damus - they are half-luos half luhya like Busia luhyas.
Bunyores include wakina Kenneth marende - have intermarried with Luos - live near each other from Majengo to Maseno to Luanda.
Ruto will not get those votes.
Ruto can get Tirikis...but Khaniri and Jirongo the two sons of Tiriki are fighting their own wars.
Tirikis are close to Nandis and Maragoli.

Once again dont waste time researching - just ask ME :

It not just tribe - Mdvd has no solid control of Maragoli after his endless blunders. Only Agoi is KK - Otichillo (41%) is ODM, Akaranga (Progressive Party) 26%,  Khaniri (UDP)  11% - are all Azimio or Azimio-leaning. That 75% combo.

Only Agoi is KK - meagre 10%.

Vihiga is akin to Mombasa - where KK put on a show but numbers don't add up.

This is Mdvd home county  8) 8) - and the naked king will somehw deliver Luhya to Ruto.

Kakamega is equally bad for KK - Malala can't stand Barasa-Savula joint force.

maDVD Agoi should give up and back Akaranga. I saw Akaranga in Karen recently. Once Maragoli merge they win. The problem Akaranga has been wasting maDVD because he has some funny church with strong grassroot network.

Akaranga and Agoi are both Maragolis.
Otichilo is Bunyore
Khaniri a Tiriki.

Maragolis are 50 percent: Bunyore 30%; Tiriki 15%; or about.

It been a battle btw Akaranga church and Mudamba political family -  allowing Bunyore & Tirikis to merge.

As of now - Ruto has to nail a deal with Akaranga - to help maDVD - and he was in karen - so the deal could be cooking

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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2022, 12:31:11 AM »
Mister si una kiburi. Akaranga Progressive Party is at best neutral not KK.

About his tribe - he is at 26% despite Maragoli being 50%. Even with Agoi still only 35% total  8) Where is Mdvd influence?

Azimio side he can steal some Bunyore - so long as he firy backs Raila - and top up his wishy-washy Maragoli. Obviously even Maragoli are pissed with Mdvd stupidity and are the ones boostoing Otichilo to 40%.

The problem is anti-Ruto sentiment. UDA candidate would net 1% there.. Agoi 10% is a big shame for Mdvd.

How long did that take you to research.
MaDVD will deliver Maragoli(half vihiga) and half Kakamega (Ruto has strong game in North of Kakamega - Raila has the South)
That is minimum he can do.
But on the ground - he isnt there - he trust Agoi to do his bidding on the ground.
Rev Akaranga(Maragoli too) has a church with serious grassroot network in Vihiga - that made him win governor and MP.
Ruto seem to have gone for Akaranga to help bolster maDVD.
Akaranga need Ruto/MaDVD to win back governor otherwise if they divide the vote the Bunyore will win.
Akaranga cannot stay in Azimio - he would be handing current governor free re-election.
Bunyore are ODM damus - they are half-luos half luhya like Busia luhyas.
Bunyores include wakina Kenneth marende - have intermarried with Luos - live near each other from Majengo to Maseno to Luanda.
Ruto will not get those votes.
Ruto can get Tirikis...but Khaniri and Jirongo the two sons of Tiriki are fighting their own wars.
Tirikis are close to Nandis and Maragoli.

Once again dont waste time researching - just ask ME :
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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2022, 01:29:09 AM »
1) Opinion polls dont work like that. You dont sum up to find Maragoli numbers :)
2) Madvd relies on Agoi..who is not liked...because people feel..that he monopolize maDVD.
3) Ruto is most likely negotiating to force maDVD to step down for Akaranga.
4) MaDVD will see sense - and aim for two governors - Lamu and Kakamega - he is doing great - technically Sakaja ni yake nusu

Finally dont challenge your master. LEARN.

This was 9 days ago - watch hiyo space


Mister si una kiburi. Akaranga Progressive Party is at best neutral not KK.

About his tribe - he is at 26% despite Maragoli being 50%. Even with Agoi still only 35% total  8) Where is Mdvd influence?

Azimio side he can steal some Bunyore - so long as he firy backs Raila - and top up his wishy-washy Maragoli. Obviously even Maragoli are pissed with Mdvd stupidity and are the ones boostoing Otichilo to 40%.

The problem is anti-Ruto sentiment. UDA candidate would net 1% there.. Agoi 10% is a big shame for Mdvd.

How long did that take you to research.
MaDVD will deliver Maragoli(half vihiga) and half Kakamega (Ruto has strong game in North of Kakamega - Raila has the South)
That is minimum he can do.
But on the ground - he isnt there - he trust Agoi to do his bidding on the ground.
Rev Akaranga(Maragoli too) has a church with serious grassroot network in Vihiga - that made him win governor and MP.
Ruto seem to have gone for Akaranga to help bolster maDVD.
Akaranga need Ruto/MaDVD to win back governor otherwise if they divide the vote the Bunyore will win.
Akaranga cannot stay in Azimio - he would be handing current governor free re-election.
Bunyore are ODM damus - they are half-luos half luhya like Busia luhyas.
Bunyores include wakina Kenneth marende - have intermarried with Luos - live near each other from Majengo to Maseno to Luanda.
Ruto will not get those votes.
Ruto can get Tirikis...but Khaniri and Jirongo the two sons of Tiriki are fighting their own wars.
Tirikis are close to Nandis and Maragoli.

Once again dont waste time researching - just ask ME :


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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2022, 04:18:06 PM »

@Robina.... let us compare notes after Baba's tour of the region viz my comments below.

Our friends on the other side (RvP, RvHH are you there??) are very keen to muffle this topic of REAL EARTHQUAKE happening in Mulembe nation... forget the fake one who tried to incite the ground past couple of days but was largely ignored!

I will tell you straight up Mulembe nation is Azimio-nated. This is really Baba's other bedroom.

There is little trouble in Bungoma which needs working on. My Bukusu are not fully in... maybe at 60%... we need to work on this and the problem has really been the fickle representation we had for the past years. ODM did itself in by allowing the zoning in the past 2 elections cycles and thus the likes of Weta and others passed through that collective coalition ticket. Same thing happening now with DAP-K. It also doesn't help that Wangamati (in Bungoma) has not done a really good job, but he will scrape through at razor thin margin. Khaemba in Kitale/Trans-Nzoia has been another disaster. When I say Bungoma, I include Trans-Nzoia.... that swathe is predominantly Bukusu Luhya dominated.

Thumb-suck the rest of Mulembe nation would be 80% Azimio as we speak; any non-Azimio who will pass through will just depend on personal charm or charisma and how the person works the ground. I would say therefore that Mulembe nation will go worst case 70:30 for Baba globally, only because the Bukusu are the largest sub-tribe and need to be worked on as of now.

On zoning for UDA, I think this was just Bill Ruto's hubris and kiburi; you have already seen UDA aligned candidates asking that they be allowed to run their own campaigns without UDA presence/interference; they are feeling the pulse of the ground and are telling Wananchi .....pigia mimi kura, huko juu weka Baba.

i see things as going quite bad for KK. With the plainly raw deal Mdvd got for himself & ANC. Now you have UDA in Sabatia.

Is UDA so popular as to beat both ANC and ODM? Guys so confident they need no zoning.

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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2022, 04:35:29 PM »
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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2022, 04:47:13 PM »
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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2022, 08:29:31 PM »
Pundit and your long lectures, the day you will learn to discern UDA propaganda maybe we will take you seriously. Mdvd has probably sold out his own wife and daughter to UDA.. if you think he is capable of any earthquake  :zen:
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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2022, 08:36:32 PM »
now ati those mlika mwizi shots from a nobody mean Raila is struggling in Luhya


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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2022, 08:43:09 PM »
Luanda-Maseno are border towns of Luo and Bunyore. I bet more Luos from Siaya attended than Luhyas.
now ati those mlika mwizi shots from a nobody mean Raila is struggling in Luhya


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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2022, 09:11:56 PM »
Luanda-Maseno are border towns of Luo and Bunyore. I bet more Luos from Siaya attended than Luhyas.
now ati those mlika mwizi shots from a nobody mean Raila is struggling in Luhya


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Re: Pragmatic, what is your reading of Mulembe nation?
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2022, 09:23:31 PM »
Majority of other kabila are tired; watu wake bado wako na faith;
All you have to look for is many Sudan-dark people in the rallies. Raila whenever he has a massive rally, 50% are those same navy blue dark folks from the lake and environs!