This election is about appeasing kikuyus

[KenyanPlato]

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It is really sickening that kikuyu tribalism has forced every candidate to focus on winning their vote at the expense of national constituency. Martha and Gachagua are the worst choices. Martha has a lot ridgity and pure kiburi god forbid raila wins and drops dead Martha would a disastrous president. Gachagua like his late brother is a thug. Unwashed gichagi brewed goon. He is a classless mathafaka. I would hate to think such a fucker would be a heart beat away from power. Knowing ruto has health issues and suffered a Tia 11 years ago. Anyway kikuyu supremacy continues to fuck that banana republic since independence and will only be stopped by force. As for now prepare for president Martha karua once raila is declared dead in 2026.

Back to my sabbatical.

[RV Pundit]

Cok2010 has good mechanism to guard executive abuses and other tribes would revolt but I agree both don't have the temperance for pork..worse is Martha with miguna like emotional IQ

[Dear Mami]

Cok2010 has good mechanism to guard executive abuses and other tribes would revolt but I agree both don't have the temperance for pork..worse is Martha with miguna like emotional IQ

Uwongo. Martha is nothing like Miguna. Better you would've told us she's like Raila and Ruto: stubborn and independent. Kichwa ngumu  And btw, it's part of why people trust her. You guys forget we all know these people, especially the older politicians. Hii ya Miguna ni smear tu.

[RV Pundit]

He is more like Raila. Ruto is very stable, has very high IQ and EQ. Martha is mercurial and unpredictable. That is why she has no MCA in his narc-kenya thing - and has never really amounted to much. Not even in Kirinyanga. All she has been is Mp and then minister. She had good tenure in Maji house - creating many water laws - but what a disaster in Justice ministry - which was vendetta ministry where she was busy hounding his ex-boyfriend or husband - and intimidating folks. When found with Wamungunda she took journalist to court. She is really a ka-lucy type of Miguna. And she is also corrupt - she just doesnt have that much skills - so  she stolen little. Her scandals are just about as many as any average politician.

In short she has very limitied political skills to become PORK..if Raila god forbid won and god forbid he dies. She doesnt even know what team work is - she cant handle any personal or political relationship beyond a day - because she stubborn as hell.

Raila has excellent political skills but as huge axe to grind for his family long persecution/jail, lack the temperament to be pork, too mercurial and there is good reason why he hasnt been pork until he is almost 80yrs.

As for Ruto - he has all the traits to make a great leader - he packs incredible talents - and at 55yrs and in his maiden run - will transform kenya politics. People fear his terrific talents. They know once Ruto become PORK - politics in kenya will end - for he would be the giant colossus strutting the country for at least 10yrs or more if he wants.

Uwongo. Martha is nothing like Miguna. Better you would've told us she's like Raila and Ruto: stubborn and independent. Kichwa ngumu  And btw, it's part of why people trust her. You guys forget we all know these people, especially the older politicians. Hii ya Miguna ni smear tu.

[audacityofhope]

It is really sickening that kikuyu tribalism has forced every candidate to focus on winning their vote at the expense of national constituency. Martha and Gachagua are the worst choices. Martha has a lot ridgity and pure kiburi god forbid raila wins and drops dead Martha would a disastrous president. Gachagua like his late brother is a thug. Unwashed gichagi brewed goon. He is a classless mathafaka. I would hate to think such a fucker would be a heart beat away from power. Knowing ruto has health issues and suffered a Tia 11 years ago. Anyway kikuyu supremacy continues to fuck that banana republic since independence and will only be stopped by force. As for now prepare for president Martha karua once raila is declared dead in 2026.

Back to my sabbatical.

Yes go back to your sabbatical. It was peaceful and folks civil over here before you unloaded your foul mouth.

[RV Pundit]

You're a dung fly that should not be here. This is no choo.com. There is no dung here for you to burrow. Njamba even at his worse behaviour is still very civil and light-hearted. Your bitterness as Jakom and Wangamati loses is going to be a spectacle to watch.

Yes go back to your sabbatical. It was peaceful and folks civil over here before you unloaded your foul mouth.

[Dear Mami]

It is really sickening that kikuyu tribalism has forced every candidate to focus on winning their vote at the expense of national constituency. Martha and Gachagua are the worst choices. Martha has a lot ridgity and pure kiburi god forbid raila wins and drops dead Martha would a disastrous president. Gachagua like his late brother is a thug. Unwashed gichagi brewed goon. He is a classless mathafaka. I would hate to think such a fucker would be a heart beat away from power. Knowing ruto has health issues and suffered a Tia 11 years ago. Anyway kikuyu supremacy continues to fuck that banana republic since independence and will only be stopped by force. As for now prepare for president Martha karua once raila is declared dead in 2026.

Back to my sabbatical.

Methinks Ruto and Raila have also chosen to make it a Kyuk affair to a certain extent. They could've made it slightly different, for example, a Meru affair (Kindiki vs Munya) or a non-Gema affair (Mudamba vs Kaloi). The problem has been anti-Railaism in Gema. If they split 50-50 btw the two, we would've seen either Kindiki vs Munya or Kaloi vs Mudamba, but alas. The anti-Railaism forced RAO to go for a name like Karua that can steal some votes, hata kama si zote: one trusted by many Gema and non-Gema alike.

[Nowayhaha]

Simply put it ,in the current constituional dispensation you cannot win elections without GEMA on your side.
Railas intention is to divide GEMA , Rutos intention is to have them as reliable block.
Raila learnt it the hard way through 2013 and 2017 elections.

It is really sickening that kikuyu tribalism has forced every candidate to focus on winning their vote at the expense of national constituency. Martha and Gachagua are the worst choices. Martha has a lot ridgity and pure kiburi god forbid raila wins and drops dead Martha would a disastrous president. Gachagua like his late brother is a thug. Unwashed gichagi brewed goon. He is a classless mathafaka. I would hate to think such a fucker would be a heart beat away from power. Knowing ruto has health issues and suffered a Tia 11 years ago. Anyway kikuyu supremacy continues to fuck that banana republic since independence and will only be stopped by force. As for now prepare for president Martha karua once raila is declared dead in 2026.

Back to my sabbatical.

Methinks Ruto and Raila have also chosen to make it a Kyuk affair to a certain extent. They could've made it slightly different, for example, a Meru affair (Kindiki vs Munya) or a non-Gema affair (Mudamba vs Kaloi). The problem has been anti-Railaism in Gema. If they split 50-50 btw the two, we would've seen either Kindiki vs Munya or Kaloi vs Mudamba, but alas. The anti-Railaism forced RAO to go for a name like Karua that can steal some votes, hata kama si zote: one trusted by many Gema and non-Gema alike.

[Njuri Ncheke]

It is really sickening that kikuyu tribalism has forced every candidate to focus on winning their vote at the expense of national constituency. Martha and Gachagua are the worst choices. Martha has a lot ridgity and pure kiburi god forbid raila wins and drops dead Martha would a disastrous president. Gachagua like his late brother is a thug. Unwashed gichagi brewed goon. He is a classless mathafaka. I would hate to think such a fucker would be a heart beat away from power. Knowing ruto has health issues and suffered a Tia 11 years ago. Anyway kikuyu supremacy continues to fuck that banana republic since independence and will only be stopped by force. As for now prepare for president Martha karua once raila is declared dead in 2026.

Back to my sabbatical.

Methinks Ruto and Raila have also chosen to make it a Kyuk affair to a certain extent. They could've made it slightly different, for example, a Meru affair (Kindiki vs Munya) or a non-Gema affair (Mudamba vs Kaloi). The problem has been anti-Railaism in Gema. If they split 50-50 btw the two, we would've seen either Kindiki vs Munya or Kaloi vs Mudamba, but alas. The anti-Railaism forced RAO to go for a name like Karua that can steal some votes, hata kama si zote: one trusted by many Gema and non-Gema alike.

Well you becoming better at analyzing,the whole bet on Karua is on stealing votes and then saying "look people voted for karua as one of their own" its a high stakes game, because according to gatheca it would be difficult to quantify which are real votes from stolen, so they can set their bots to giving karua 60% of votes everywhere kwa mlima and no one would raise a voice.

[Dear Mami]

Methinks Ruto and Raila have also chosen to make it a Kyuk affair to a certain extent. They could've made it slightly different, for example, a Meru affair (Kindiki vs Munya) or a non-Gema affair (Mudamba vs Kaloi). The problem has been anti-Railaism in Gema. If they split 50-50 btw the two, we would've seen either Kindiki vs Munya or Kaloi vs Mudamba, but alas. The anti-Railaism forced RAO to go for a name like Karua that can steal some votes, hata kama si zote: one trusted by many Gema and non-Gema alike.

Well you becoming better at analyzing,the whole bet on Karua is on stealing votes and then saying "look people voted for karua as one of their own" its a high stakes game, because according to gatheca it would be difficult to quantify which are real votes from stolen, so they can set their bots to giving karua 60% of votes everywhere kwa mlima and no one would raise a voice.

I wasn't talking about election theft. When I said "steal some votes" I just meant take some from the Ruto column. Noway has it right. Only a Martha can do that, even if limited. Which is why I think Ruto blundered with Gachagua. Any half-way decent Gema would've kept all those votes Martha may now get from switching because they really DON'T like Raila. Kimani Ichungwa, Ndindi Nyoro, even Kabogo would be better than Gachagua.

[Njuri Ncheke]

Methinks Ruto and Raila have also chosen to make it a Kyuk affair to a certain extent. They could've made it slightly different, for example, a Meru affair (Kindiki vs Munya) or a non-Gema affair (Mudamba vs Kaloi). The problem has been anti-Railaism in Gema. If they split 50-50 btw the two, we would've seen either Kindiki vs Munya or Kaloi vs Mudamba, but alas. The anti-Railaism forced RAO to go for a name like Karua that can steal some votes, hata kama si zote: one trusted by many Gema and non-Gema alike.

Well you becoming better at analyzing,the whole bet on Karua is on stealing votes and then saying "look people voted for karua as one of their own" its a high stakes game, because according to gatheca it would be difficult to quantify which are real votes from stolen, so they can set their bots to giving karua 60% of votes everywhere kwa mlima and no one would raise a voice.

I wasn't talking about election theft. When I said "steal some votes" I just meant take some from the Ruto column. Noway has it right. Only a Martha can do that, even if limited. Which is why I think Ruto blundered with Gachagua. Any half-way decent Gema would've kept all those votes Martha may now get from switching because they really DON'T like Raila. Kimani Ichungwa, Ndindi Nyoro, even Kabogo would be better than Gachagua.

Yes also that,am more worried about Kiambu and Muranga its very quiet UDA side.

[audacityofhope]

You're a dung fly that should not be here. This is no choo.com. There is no dung here for you to burrow. Njamba even at his worse behaviour is still very civil and light-hearted. Your bitterness as Jakom and Wangamati loses is going to be a spectacle to watch.

Yes go back to your sabbatical. It was peaceful and folks civil over here before you unloaded your foul mouth.

Yes, if my posts worry you now, then guess what kind of spectacle I will bring here on Aug 10, when it dawns on William that he will be in formal opposition for at least 5 years.

[RV Pundit]

You're NOT the only Azimio here - we have wakina Kadudu who disagree with us on almost eveything without being disagreeable.

This forum has majority Azimio but none is as insufferable as you're - engaging in personal attacks - rather the subject matter.

None of us here is running for anything - we are spectators and supporters - so any bitterness your harbour is misplaced.

Yes, if my posts worry you now, then guess what kind of spectacle I will bring here on Aug 10, when it dawns on William that he will be in formal opposition for at least 5 years.

[audacityofhope]

You're NOT the only Azimio here - we have wakina Kadudu who disagree with us on almost eveything without being disagreeable.

This forum has majority Azimio but none is as insufferable as you're - engaging in personal attacks - rather the subject matter.

None of us here is running for anything - we are spectators and supporters - so any bitterness your harbour is misplaced.

Yes, if my posts worry you now, then guess what kind of spectacle I will bring here on Aug 10, when it dawns on William that he will be in formal opposition for at least 5 years.

I am here to debate, not play pingpong. If you think I am not effective at debate and discussion, ask members here. I shoot straight, from the hip, and those of you who get away with murder peddling blatant falsehoods, mbaki hapa mkidanganya, have to reckon with me first.  Why would they say I am your dawa if I am not effective in countering propaganda on this forum? Anyone who engages me soon realizes I am not available for endless back and forth. The discussion rapidly reaches a conclusion and we are both the better for having engaged each other, unless of course you are a sore debater like pundit.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

It is really sickening that kikuyu tribalism has forced every candidate to focus on winning their vote at the expense of national constituency. Martha and Gachagua are the worst choices. Martha has a lot ridgity and pure kiburi god forbid raila wins and drops dead Martha would a disastrous president. Gachagua like his late brother is a thug. Unwashed gichagi brewed goon. He is a classless mathafaka. I would hate to think such a fucker would be a heart beat away from power. Knowing ruto has health issues and suffered a Tia 11 years ago. Anyway kikuyu supremacy continues to fuck that banana republic since independence and will only be stopped by force. As for now prepare for president Martha karua once raila is declared dead in 2026.

Back to my sabbatical.

Yes go back to your sabbatical. It was peaceful and folks civil over here before you unloaded your foul mouth.
It looks like the man hit your nerves hard. The man is stating obvious. Senile Raila is old and will die in the next few years. As soon as you hit 80 in Kenya you are show-in to the grave. 99% of Kenyans die before hitting 80. Raila could either be in the 99% group or super rare 1% group that live beyond 82. Agree with Kenyaplato about the death but not the RARUA winning the bout! Uhuru and Mt Kenya Mafia knows this that is why they blocked Kalonzo by all means. They know Ruto will govern for 10 years but Raila will die and Martha, or Mt Kenya take the mantle again without much hallobaloo

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Cok2010 has good mechanism to guard executive abuses and other tribes would revolt but I agree both don't have the temperance for pork..worse is Martha with miguna like emotional IQ

Uwongo. Martha is nothing like Miguna. Better you would've told us she's like Raila and Ruto: stubborn and independent. Kichwa ngumu  And btw, it's part of why people trust her. You guys forget we all know these people, especially the older politicians. Hii ya Miguna ni smear tu.

Agreed.  Karua may even be conniving, but she is does not exhibit unhinged behavior or mental imbalance.  She is not cray cray.