Author Topic: Kalonzo working on plan B - incase he is not picked (Read 6412 times)

RV Pundit · « **Reply #40 on:** May 16, 2022, 08:16:11 AM »

Kalonzo summon Wiper to SKM
https://www.pulselive.co.ke/news/local/kalonzo-musyoka-meets-wiper-leaders-ahead-of-major-announcement/gxk9y81?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Pulse-Live-Kenya-Page-Post&fbclid=IwAR17HLcs6p6y_Q3ar3Of2QDBBeiAF9OxAvfiV2WEglQ0bkgUjfEik1GrrkE

RV Pundit · « **Reply #41 on:** May 23, 2022, 12:55:41 PM »

Wiper calls a decisive meeting
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-23-wiper-officials-meet-as-pressure-on-azimio-talks-mount/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

RV Pundit · « **Reply #42 on:** May 23, 2022, 12:57:09 PM »

Wiper has fielded 400 aspirants for the county assembly seats, 11 for governor, 22 for senator and 110 for National Assembly seats.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #43 on:** May 23, 2022, 02:22:31 PM »

Still keeping the running as an option

Kalonzo presents signatures to IEBC for his presidential bid https://t.co/tp7S1a622U
— TheStarKenya (@TheStarKenya) May 23, 2022

GeeMail · « **Reply #44 on:** May 23, 2022, 09:13:05 PM »

Pundit you have two threads open on this one subject. This one sticky and the other one also. Here you keep Poor Kaloi running as an option and the other thread you have him in Azimio. Both threads have almost zero option but you keep both so you have bragging rights. What do you want?

RV Pundit · « **Reply #45 on:** May 23, 2022, 09:30:26 PM »

This one dies when kaloi official returns to Azimio.. otherwise it lives.The other ones are daily siasa with romours flying

RV Pundit · « **Reply #46 on:** May 23, 2022, 09:31:11 PM »

Officially he is running.. because he gave out signatures.. unofficially they are negotiating.. negotiations could fall apart.Poor kaloi is something else..even in 2002 nobody was sure of he would go to kanu until last minute he showed up at Uhuru park.I remember I was at uhuru park early..I was really optimistic of a new Kenya

RV Pundit · « **Reply #47 on:** May 25, 2022, 07:05:01 AM »

Looked more than confirm - he is back to Azimio - Plan A - now it's how to explain his flip-flop to Kambas - should be easy. Just claim Ruto and team are very corrupt and will finish kenya.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-25-inside-kalonzos-grand-return-to-railas-azimio/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1653447190

Nowayhaha · « **Reply #48 on:** May 25, 2022, 07:43:57 AM »

Still there will be some backlash, Kambas are not happy and for this they will give an answer come Aug 09. We might be back to 97 when Kambas split their votes almost evenly between Ngilu and Moi.
Kalonzo seems to have been subdued by the pressure of aspirants who want to ride on Azimio. UDA and Ruto will reap nicely in Ukambani.

Quote from: RV Pundit on May 25, 2022, 07:05:01 AM

Looked more than confirm - he is back to Azimio - Plan A - now it's how to explain his flip-flop to Kambas - should be easy. Just claim Ruto and team are very corrupt and will finish kenya.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-25-inside-kalonzos-grand-return-to-railas-azimio/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1653447190

RV Pundit · « **Reply #49 on:** May 25, 2022, 07:49:46 AM »

Yes there will be backlash - as many are already jaded with that embarrassing flipflop and dont trust Raila - Kalonzo himself will have quite a problem campaigning. Uhuru had improved to 20-30 - I see Ruto improving to 30-40 percent of Ukambani. Kalonzo still has an edge...and depending on how Ruto respond to his propaganda...he could do damage because end of the day he will have good explanation to give.

Wiper Aspirants know UDA is their main competition on the ground. They know without the party ticket advantage - their bids will become in danger. They know if Kalonzo go to KK - they are finished.

Quote from: Nowayhaha on May 25, 2022, 07:43:57 AM

Still there will be some backlash, Kambas are not happy and for this they will give an answer come Aug 09. We might be back to 97 when Kambas split their votes almost evenly between Ngilu and Moi.
Kalonzo seems to have been subdued by the pressure of aspirants who want to ride on Azimio. UDA and Ruto will reap nicely in Ukambani.

Nowayhaha · « **Reply #50 on:** May 25, 2022, 08:05:57 AM »

Then worse is that unlike his wiper aspirants who mighr win seats he is going to stay in the cold for another 5 years.
He rejected same position 10 years ago which would have made him stronger in 2022. Now Raila has downgraded him further.
Best thing for him in join KK and get a share of government and start playing smart politics of 2027.
The next 5 years will see an emergence of new leaders in Lower Eastern and Ukambani. GEMA are on their Third new leader , Kalenjins on their 2ns new leader times up for the other region.

Quote from: RV Pundit on May 25, 2022, 07:49:46 AM

Yes there will be backlash - as many are already jaded with that embarrassing flipflop and dont trust Raila - Kalonzo himself will have quite a problem campaigning. Uhuru had improved to 20-30 - I see Ruto improving to 30-40 percent of Ukambani. Kalonzo still has an edge...and depending on how Ruto respond to his propaganda...he could do damage because end of the day he will have good explanation to give.

Wiper Aspirants know UDA is their main competition on the ground. They know without the party ticket advantage - their bids will become in danger. They know if Kalonzo go to KK - they are finished.

Quote from: Nowayhaha on May 25, 2022, 07:43:57 AM
Still there will be some backlash, Kambas are not happy and for this they will give an answer come Aug 09. We might be back to 97 when Kambas split their votes almost evenly between Ngilu and Moi.
Kalonzo seems to have been subdued by the pressure of aspirants who want to ride on Azimio. UDA and Ruto will reap nicely in Ukambani.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #51 on:** May 25, 2022, 08:18:29 AM »

1) He cant resist Uhuru/Gideon money
2) He cant resist wiper aspirants fear of UDA.
So he is going to make big mistake - because if I were him 1) it would either be running hoping to trigger a runoff and negotiate from strength 2) join KK to finish off elections now. After what Raila has done to him the last 10yrs - going back is almost laughable - Raila might even drop him and put Ngilu to completely finish him.

Quote from: Nowayhaha on May 25, 2022, 08:05:57 AM

Then worse is that unlike his wiper aspirants who mighr win seats he is going to stay in the cold for another 5 years.
He rejected same position 10 years ago which would have made him stronger in 2022. Now Raila has downgraded him further.
Best thing for him in join KK and get a share of government and start playing smart politics of 2027.
The next 5 years will see an emergence of new leaders in Lower Eastern and Ukambani. GEMA are on their Third new leader , Kalenjins on their 2ns new leader times up for the other region.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #52 on:** May 26, 2022, 08:57:05 AM »

Kalonzo present his signatures yesterday so officially still running.

Kalonzo is on...

Wiper submits signatures backing Kalonzo’s presidential bid to IEBC. Wiper Party officials had said Kalonzo was going back to Azimio.

Wiper officials took documents to IEBC early Wednesday morning #JKLive pic.twitter.com/qPGx3RmQpT
— Citizen TV Kenya (@citizentvkenya) May 25, 2022

RV Pundit · « **Reply #53 on:** May 27, 2022, 10:47:08 PM »

Kalonzo out of last 16th?
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/world/2022-05-27-iebc-locks-kalonzo-out-of-presidential-race/

RV Pundit · « **Reply #54 on:** May 28, 2022, 04:48:08 PM »

Kalonzo back - ?

Buffalo gang; what story have I missed out on? 😉 ^SKM pic.twitter.com/42UMgL9NEt
— Kalonzo Musyoka (@skmusyoka) May 28, 2022

RV Pundit · « **Reply #55 on:** May 29, 2022, 05:40:04 PM »

Still on for clearance;
https://www.citizen.digital/news/wiper-party-kalonzo-musyoka-still-in-presidential-race-n299072

RV Pundit · « **Reply #56 on:** May 29, 2022, 07:25:56 PM »

As the back and forth over Wiper leader Kalonzo Musyoka’s political direction ahead of the August 9 polls persists, a top ally Enoch Wambua has said the party leader was still on the presidential ballot. pic.twitter.com/UWWpcKPV90
— TheStarKenya (@TheStarKenya) May 29, 2022

RV Pundit · « **Reply #57 on:** June 02, 2022, 02:22:51 PM »

Back to plan A..end of thread

KenyanPlato · « **Reply #58 on:** June 02, 2022, 02:28:07 PM »

Lol...moas say what now?

RV Pundit · « **Reply #59 on:** June 02, 2022, 02:32:51 PM »

Quote from: KenyanPlato on June 02, 2022, 02:28:07 PM

Lol...moas say what now?

it remains largely unchanged..I had not made any changes because I was not sure if kalonzo will run..so few updates as far as I see..47 versus 52.with 1 percent for others..Ruto will move to 54 versus 45 percent..due to collapse of Uhuru in gema, Ruto new game in kilifi/mijikenda and I think ukambani will not be as high as 2017..Raila will drop at least 10 percent more to Ruto camp for all these endless drama

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Author Topic: Kalonzo working on plan B - incase he is not picked (Read 6412 times)