The Idea of A Puppet-Cracy Sickens Me

[Omollo]

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And yet that's where we're headed.

[Nefertiti]

But I am not sold on Uhuru's plan working out. Baba will turn on him in two seconds... another handshake might take place.

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

But I am not sold on Uhuru's plan working out. Baba will turn on him in two seconds... another handshake might take place.

Ruto will win easy and Uhuru plans will go to smoke. Ruto and uhuru cannot shake hands. Raila, the Kenya's perennial problem will finally be restrained and Kenya will take off.

[Nowayhaha]

Once Raila is out of the picture , Kenya as Country will be on the path of becoming a Nation.

But I am not sold on Uhuru's plan working out. Baba will turn on him in two seconds... another handshake might take place.

Ruto will win easy and Uhuru plans will go to smoke. Ruto and uhuru cannot shake hands. Raila, the Kenya's perennial problem will finally be restrained and Kenya will take off.

[Pajero]

You don't win presidency with 60% of Rift valley and 50% of central alone.

[Nowayhaha]

Can you translate that to counties. Provinces nolonger exist inthe Kenyan constituion.

You don't win presidency with 60% of Rift valley and 50% of central alone.

[RV Pundit]

Raila can never betva puppet of anybody.The man will throw Mou out in the unlucky event he won.Worry about him winning..not being a puppet.The first person to go to jail with be Uhuru and Gideon for disturbing peace by insisting on Mou.He will Handshake Ruto for parliament sake

[RV Pundit]

Raila is just acting foolish to fool Uhuru..he aint fool..he only listen to oburu and Ida..the rest go jump into the lake

[RV Pundit]

If Raila won the idi Amin will rule without any constitution..you're joking with fire.It will be a rule based on his whims and Luos will not entertain any resistance..youll see fire.Uhuru building himself a nice cell or exile with Gideon moi

[Nefertiti]

Well it's Ruto & KK pushing the puppet theory.. which is counterproductive by masking Raila foxy nature. The age also makes him seem harmless.. the argument is Raila at 80 will retire or die and PK will take over. Ruto would rule 40 years like Moi.

If Raila won the idi Amin will rule without any constitution..you're joking with fire.It will be a rule based on his whims and Luos will not entertain any resistance..youll see fire.Uhuru building himself a nice cell or exile with Gideon moi

[RV Heavy Hitter!]

Well it's Ruto & KK pushing the puppet theory.. which is counterproductive by masking Raila foxy nature. The age also makes him seem harmless.. the argument is Raila at 80 will retire or die and PK will take over. Ruto would rule 40 years like Moi.

If Raila won the idi Amin will rule without any constitution..you're joking with fire.It will be a rule based on his whims and Luos will not entertain any resistance..youll see fire.Uhuru building himself a nice cell or exile with Gideon moi

Ruto is not about changing constitution; he will do ten and okuyu will be right back at the helm because default Raila will not be anywhere to rock the boat. A Raila presidency and immediate death will not yield Peter Keneth, or any Kikuyu presidency because Raila's demise will squarely be on them whether true or not. Kenya at that time will be ungovernable and Ruto will be mia building his massive neglected business. Kenya, South Sudan, and Somalia will be in the same league! I will be reading war stories (from RV pundit) about how pokots, janjaweed, and saboat land defense forces battering kenyans like chicken. The Luos, or Nuers of Kenya and NRM will probably be battering Kenya too!

[Omollo]

That I fully buy. I've said it before that Raila & Ruto will be in the next government circa 2023.

There's a caveat: if whoever wins acts faster than lightning by weeding out Uhuru traps & calling others to shift loyalty. If not there's always the Buyoya Curse (Burundi).

Raila can never betva puppet of anybody.The man will throw Mou out in the unlucky event he won.Worry about him winning..not being a puppet.The first person to go to jail with be Uhuru and Gideon for disturbing peace by insisting on Mou.He will Handshake Ruto for parliament sake

[RV Pundit]

Realistic scenario- Raila wins.

Raila like Kibaki of 2007 cannot govern without Ruto - he would struggle to form gov - and would basically have to overthrow constitution - because they have cocked up nomination - entire Azimio crew have given sitting Mps/senators/governors - direct ticket - ODM/Wiper/Jubilee - that tells you- they are going to lose 60% of their current seats - because you can bet many incumbents are very unpopular.  So Azimio crew will be dealing with 20Mps from Uhuru, 10Mps from Kalonzo and 40Mps from ODM. You cannot govern nothing with that. Even if they bribe all independents and small parties...it will be so difficult.

So Raila will simply throw out Uhuru, Gideon and Kalonzo - and bring Ruto in - another NARA thing - to be able to rule.

Realistic scenario - Ruto wins.

Ruto has nailed nomination - conducting very credible nominations - and is definitely going to get 50% of Mps - 170mps - required to govern. Ruto will not need Raila - or Uhuru - or Kalonzo.

All the three by dint of age and limits - will quietly retire.

Ruto will run unchallenged for next 10yrs.

That I fully buy. I've said it before that Raila & Ruto will be in the next government circa 2023.

There's a caveat: if whoever wins acts faster than lightning by weeding out Uhuru traps & calling others to shift loyalty. If not there's always the Buyoya Curse (Burundi).

[Omollo]

I once heard a man saying how Kibaki wouldn't rig the 2007 elections. He claimed Kenya had gone way too far for that.

So I wouldn't rule out that.

My observations:

1. Raila is aged. It's eating on him and by the time he enters state house like all old men will want to rest. He will be asleep all the time
2. In his absence a certain clique will take over. I've never liked his wife for her domineering tendencies. She will get him in trouble by acting unconstitutionally and Raila coming in to support her
3. It is likely that a coterie of aides may try to run state business. Like the Vatican, the cardinal who spends most time drinking tea with the Pope emerges to issue orders to clergyman from far flung regions in the name of the Pope. He's soon recognized as the power in the Vatican and runs a parallel government. The Pope usually old and overwhelmed starts to lean on him for support and to get time to sleep

The thing going for whoever is The Kenyattas are wasteful. They run through money faster than a shark speeds in the open sea. So without state funds and state corruption they will be beggars

If Raila won the idi Amin will rule without any constitution..you're joking with fire.It will be a rule based on his whims and Luos will not entertain any resistance..youll see fire.Uhuru building himself a nice cell or exile with Gideon moi