Ruto 32% 2010 Referendum Vs.Moi 36% 1992 PORK election.

[Omollo]

What destroyed Kibaki in Western is Kikuyuism..

That said  MaDvD has no votes anywhere in western. Unless he runs for president. Luhyas just don't admire Deputy Presidentship.

But I see Ruto has got into the Raila trap of thinking once he has a tribal demagogue his tribe will vote for him. That worked for Moi because the demagogues had popular traditional support through say Akamba Union, Etc. Weta hasn't got that neither does Mudavadi.

In fact the era of demagogues is over. It's now about hitting the ground capturing churches and corrupting the tools of state from NIS operatives to county officials- not to get you votes but to stay away blind as you get votes.

Both candidates lack committed folks. They need to borrow from communist organic operations. Here you get a few people thoroughly committed to the cause where even when remaining with 5 shillings change they'll bring it back. There's no cause.

I recall our struggle against Kibaki in 2007. They could only rig but we reached a stage where citizens collected all "Kikuyu money" and surrendered it. We ran propaganda programs against bribery. That was a time!

Today it's bodaboda who are political malayas.

If Ruto has run out of money then he should hope Raila's aversion to bribery stands firm. Ruto designed his campaign on money... lots of money. He gets a chance if he has money. If he's fallen short he should cut his losses, push Gachagua and support him. That would be a NIGHTMARE scenario for Uhuru!

(1) How comes bukusu supported Kibaki and their leaders like Musikari Kombo,Mukhisa Kituyi lost their parliamentar


Luhya are roughly split into bukusu & leaning, mar
i& leaning, others. KANU use to win maragoli & other with bukusu following muliro the wamalwa supporting ford kenya.Succesion battle btw mukhisa and kombo on who was to succeed Wamalwa finished them both and gave rise to Wetangula who benefited from Kibaki reward of Bukusu.Weta in 2013 went with Raila and 2017 too.Now he is team Ruto.Madvd control maragoli n related about 30 percent of luhyas.Others became kanu orphans and were inherited by Raila ldp later ODM. 2022 is easy Ruto will take 2/3 of luhya

[Githunguri]

What destroyed Kibaki in Western is Kikuyuism..

That said  MaDvD has no votes anywhere in western. Unless he runs for president. Luhyas just don't admire Deputy Presidentship.

But I see Ruto has got into the Raila trap of thinking once he has a tribal demagogue his tribe will vote for him. That worked for Moi because the demagogues had popular traditional support through say Akamba Union, Etc. Weta hasn't got that neither does Mudavadi.

In fact the era of demagogues is over. It's now about hitting the ground capturing churches and corrupting the tools of state from NIS operatives to county officials- not to get you votes but to stay away blind as you get votes.

Both candidates lack committed folks. They need to borrow from communist organic operations. Here you get a few people thoroughly committed to the cause where even when remaining with 5 shillings change they'll bring it back. There's no cause.

I recall our struggle against Kibaki in 2007. They could only rig but we reached a stage where citizens collected all "Kikuyu money" and surrendered it. We ran propaganda programs against bribery. That was a time!

Today it's bodaboda who are political malayas.

If Ruto has run out of money then he should hope Raila's aversion to bribery stands firm. Ruto designed his campaign on money... lots of money. He gets a chance if he has money. If he's fallen short he should cut his losses, push Gachagua and support him. That would be a NIGHTMARE scenario for Uhuru!

(1) How comes bukusu supported Kibaki and their leaders like Musikari Kombo,Mukhisa Kituyi lost their parliamentar


Luhya are roughly split into bukusu & leaning, mar
i& leaning, others. KANU use to win maragoli & other with bukusu following muliro the wamalwa supporting ford kenya.Succesion battle btw mukhisa and kombo on who was to succeed Wamalwa finished them both and gave rise to Wetangula who benefited from Kibaki reward of Bukusu.Weta in 2013 went with Raila and 2017 too.Now he is team Ruto.Madvd control maragoli n related about 30 percent of luhyas.Others became kanu orphans and were inherited by Raila ldp later ODM. 2022 is easy Ruto will take 2/3 of luhya

What are you saying?

Long,boring,non cohesive gibberish.

[Githunguri]

Bukusu backed kibaki in 2007.They switched to Raila in 2013 and now Ruto

(1) How comes bukusu supported Kibaki and their leaders like Musikari Kombo,Mukhisa Kituyi lost their parliamentary seats?

(2) Bukusu are the largest luhya sub-tribe,If they supported Kibaki,How comes Raila got over 68% Luhua vote?

Rails support in Luhya land has always been on the increase even when Mudavadi their leader was on the ballot in 2013.

So I don't think anything will change.This time round when Kabila mbili slogan and Madvd Weta spoiler slogan will be deployed in western,It will be 85% western.

Luhya are roughly split into bukusu & leaning, maragoli& leaning, others. KANU use to win maragoli & other with bukusu following muliro the wamalwa supporting ford kenya.Succesion battle btw mukhisa and kombo on who was to succeed Wamalwa finished them both and gave rise to Wetangula who benefited from Kibaki reward of Bukusu.Weta in 2013 went with Raila and 2017 too.Now he is team Ruto.Madvd control maragoli n related about 30 percent of luhyas.Others became kanu orphans and were inherited by Raila ldp later ODM. 2022 is easy Ruto will take 2/3 of luhya

Everybody knows that Bukusu and Maragoli are the largest Luhya sub-tribes.

If Mudavadi couldn't deliver Maragoli vote to Uhuru/Ruto in 2002 and to make matters worse lost his parliamentary seat,Do you think he can do it now?

If Mudavadi couldn't unite 75% luhya in 2013 presidential race,Do you think he can unite them as a Minister for Finance in a Kalenjin government?The only place Madvd got more votes than Raila is vihiga 49% vs 46% in whole of western.

I repeat,If weta,kombo,mukhsia,Eugene,awori,soita shitanda couldn't deliver luhya vote to kibaki,you think weta and madvd can do it?

Rails got 2% luhya in 1997,20 years later he got 65% luhya vote against all luhya political leaders and government machinery,This time he will get 85% luhya vote.

That's why Ken Lusaka avoided Ruto like q plague yesterday.

[RV Pundit]

Politics is dynamic... majority of serious luhya leaders are backing Ruto...Ruto has created extensive network.. don't be desperate Ruto taking western...even without dpork...it's a reward of 10yrs engagement with western

[Githunguri]

Politics is dynamic... majority of serious luhya leaders are backing Ruto...Ruto has created extensive network.. don't be desperate Ruto taking western...even without dpork...it's a reward of 10yrs engagement with western

(1) Which Majority Luhya leaders?

Echesa or Toto slum thugs?

(2) Which network?

Ruto has tried delivering Luhya vote to Uhuru in 2002,2013 and 2017,What miracle will happen this time?

UTALIJUA JIJI.

[RV Pundit]

Ruto delivered western from 4 percent in 2013 to 30 percent in 2017 with more than ten MPs... Ruto has visited western almost every village..has softened the ground..madvd and Weta is the icing on the cake.its going to be 70 percent versus 30 percent..the cooperation of uda, ford k and anc is already paying fruits and their cohesiveness attracting voters.Meanwhile Azimio ni Fujo Tupu na Matusi

[Githunguri]

Ruto delivered western from 4 percent in 2013 to 30 percent in 2017 with more than ten MPs... Ruto has visited western almost every village..has softened the ground..madvd and Weta is the icing on the cake.its going to be 70 percent versus 30 percent..the cooperation of uda, ford k and anc is already paying fruits and their cohesiveness attracting voters.Meanwhile Azimio ni Fujo Tupu na Matusi

Ruto must have got luhya mps from by bungoma and transzoia where there are kalenjins and sabaot...How many jubilee Mps do we have in kakamega busia bungoma etc?How many?

The only reason Madvd and weta got MPs in 2017 is their association with Raila..in 2013 madvd got votes because he was running for presidency this time...with madvd being UDA cashier..he will be stoned like in 2002 in vhiga.

[RV Pundit]

Ruto delivered western from 4 percent in 2013 to 30 percent in 2017 with more than ten MPs... Ruto has visited western almost every village..has softened the ground..madvd and Weta is the icing on the cake.its going to be 70 percent versus 30 percent..the cooperation of uda, ford k and anc is already paying fruits and their cohesiveness attracting voters.Meanwhile Azimio ni Fujo Tupu na Matusi

Ruto must have got luhya mps from by bungoma and transzoia where there are kalenjins and sabaot...How many jubilee Mps do we have in kakamega busia bungoma etc?How many?

The only reason Madvd and weta got MPs in 2017 is their association with Raila..in 2013 madvd got votes because he was running for presidency this time...with madvd being UDA cashier..he will be stoned like in 2002 in vhiga.

Your need understand the dynamics at play every election.Madvd in 2002 revolted against moi then last minute switched back to kanu and was appointed vice president.In 2013 he was lied to by Uhuru and jubilee got zero votes..for that mockery of handing over to MaDvD.In 2017 Ruto blocked madvd incorporation to Jubilee and allowed wamalwa in..madvd went to Raila..Ruto delivered 30 percent by launching roads, electricity and getting new ford Kenya of Lusaka & wamalwa.This election in luhya is about two issues..Raila is blamed for taking handshake to Kisumu only, betraying madvd and Weta...the other luhya viewpoint is opposed to chain chain btw kalenjin & Kikuyus sees Raila as chance for outsider to final break the hegemony

[Omollo]

Long,boring,non cohesive gibberish.

1. I'm not here to entertain you.
2. I didn't force you to read my piece
3. Reading your own gibberish I'm shocked you have the effrontery to comment on my post. Its beyond the limit of your intellect
4. You got yourself an enemy before you even know him.

Mbwa na baradhuli

[Omollo]

Look at the idiocy of the latest idiot masquerading as an expert on Luhya vote. He doesn't know that Jubilee got MPs in Kakamega. He is such an idiot believing saboats elected Jubilee in Bungoma. Jubilee got MPs in Bungoma and bought others after elections.

These are the fools Raila is relying on to win an election! How do you get into punditry over an election without studying and internalizing the data? I'm not even involved but know the figures for every county from scanning the results after the 2017 election for the petition.

I'm still better than a fool claiming he is an expert.

Ruto is making genius moves around the country. He has skillfully thrown the terrible economy off his laps in to the hands of Uhuru and Raila's lap. It's only genius that he's running against a government in which he's 2nd in command.  Only Ronald Reagan has managed to pull it off in California and twice as president.

And who to fight him? Githunguri wa meno rangi.

Ruto delivered western from 4 percent in 2013 to 30 percent in 2017 with more than ten MPs... Ruto has visited western almost every village..has softened the ground..madvd and Weta is the icing on the cake.its going to be 70 percent versus 30 percent..the cooperation of uda, ford k and anc is already paying fruits and their cohesiveness attracting voters.Meanwhile Azimio ni Fujo Tupu na Matusi

Ruto must have got luhya mps from by bungoma and transzoia where there are kalenjins and sabaot...How many jubilee Mps do we have in kakamega busia bungoma etc?How many?

The only reason Madvd and weta got MPs in 2017 is their association with Raila..in 2013 madvd got votes because he was running for presidency this time...with madvd being UDA cashier..he will be stoned like in 2002 in vhiga.