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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2022, 08:56:44 AM »
kalonzo says the issue is settled. It obvious he will be the running mate. That may help firm AZIMIO numbers in Ukambani but leave Ruto to either pick Mudavadi or firm his support amongst GEMA.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-04-06-kalonzo-pulls-fresh-twist-in-azimio-running-mate-debate/

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2022, 01:29:15 PM »
Kalonzo is just playing his cards, he isn't assured of anything. The other day he was saying he won't campaign for Raila until he's named running mate. Then Martha joined Azimio, he panicked and began to campaign, unprompted. He is afraid Martha might upstage him. So now he's talking to media to try and force Raila's hand.


kalonzo says the issue is settled. It obvious he will be the running mate. That may help firm AZIMIO numbers in Ukambani but leave Ruto to either pick Mudavadi or firm his support amongst GEMA.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-04-06-kalonzo-pulls-fresh-twist-in-azimio-running-mate-debate/

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2022, 02:43:47 PM »
With BBI dead - there is only one thing for Kalonzo to take home - consolation prize is DPORK. If not Kambas who are already 50-50 will vote for Kenya Kwanza - rendering Kalonzo politically dead. So I think Kalonzo wont compromise.Uhuru also need something to take back to Mt kenya - to get 30 percent - of Mt kenya at most. PK and Karua are weak. Munya is 50-50 in Meru.

It's tough - at this point because there are only two positions - you have to decide - because either way you're going to lose or gain votes.

For Raila - I would go for reliable Kambas - and for Ruto I would go for reliable GEMA.

For Raila - GEMA coming to him after appointing DPORK is untested hypothesis.
For Ruto - Luhyas voting for him after appointing DPORK  is untested hypothesis.


Kalonzo is just playing his cards, he isn't assured of anything. The other day he was saying he won't campaign for Raila until he's named running mate. Then Martha joined Azimio, he panicked and began to campaign, unprompted. He is afraid Martha might upstage him. So now he's talking to media to try and force Raila's hand.]

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2022, 08:14:11 PM »
Mt Kenya set for DPORK in Kenya Kwanza - with MaDVD+Weta getting whopping 40 percent of the gov. MMh I would expect 30 percent.

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2022, 09:03:47 PM »
Mt Kenya set for DPORK in Kenya Kwanza - with MaDVD+Weta getting whopping 40 percent of the gov. MMh I would expect 30 percent.

Looks like MaDVD and Weta never learned that gentlemen's agreements mean zilch, nada, niente...in Kenya
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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2022, 09:20:52 PM »
They learnt..that why they first took signing fee of dollars that are untraceable.the fools are these https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-04-06-8-parties-in-azimio-threaten-to-walk-out-lament-over-lack-of-inclusivity/

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2022, 01:43:03 PM »
Tough choice for Raila - Mt kenya or Kalonzo or Kenyatta


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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2022, 12:55:49 PM »

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2022, 10:33:58 AM »

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2022, 10:40:18 AM »
Look like running mate must be known by 28th - 10days!!. That basically mean by end of May pretty much we can call this election after observing any fallout from the nominations.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/kalonzo-dismisses-team-formed-to-pick-raila-running-mate-3785806

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2022, 10:08:25 PM »
Apart from Kalonzo, Martha Karua is also a potentially good running mate for Raila because she would attract most of the older Kikuyu voters who have stuck with Uhuru. She would assuage their fears about Raila. However, I highly doubt Uhuru would allow her to be the running mate.

I'm beginning to think that Uhuru doesn't want Raila to win. This is because a Raila victory will render Uhuru as Azimio Chairman weak since he won't be having State Power to protect his loot. He will be among the first to be cast aside.

However, if Raila loses, Uhuru will be powerful as Azimio Chairman. Raila won't be having state power to get back at him, so he'll be able to control Azimio and its MPs so that President Ruto cannot easily go after him.

He will pretend to be campaigning for Raila, keep promising to go to the "ground" in Mt Kenya but never actually doing so. He won't want a strong DP for Raila, so he might go for a nonsensical choice like Gideon or PK.

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #51 on: April 19, 2022, 10:20:16 PM »
Yes what is emerging is that uhuru is busy selling and rebuilding jubilee.. selling reds without selling Raila or blues..I don't know at what point they will launch serious campaign for Raila.. because so far it's seem jubilee is getting concession from Raila without them selling Raila.It appears they know selling Raila will hurt jubilee quest to get mps and such..Raila is being played  poker ingine ya maajabu...he so weak he jumps when told to jump.They should have listened to Itumbi weaking theory.Next Uhuru will take Azimio as his own political insurance...Raila will be in Bondo.. having been KOed

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2022, 05:52:48 PM »
Martha look likely to nail the honour of escorting Raila to retirement.

She is set on trip abroad with Jakom

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/how-mt-kenya-is-arm-twisting-raila-to-win-running-mate-ticket-3788284

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2022, 01:10:19 PM »
Given their endgame is an 'imperial president', I don't see how any strong personality like Karua can be a consideration.
It is confusion galore because even the imperial president ufool wants to share with babaman. You kill a constitutional DPORK then create a hollow space in the air you expect to have powers. 
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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2022, 01:32:14 PM »
The council will decide - looking at Council - Raila has 3 members including himself; Kalonzo has himself; the rest are Uhuru people.



Raila may get Wamunyinyi and Ngilu. Making his camp 5.

Uhuru has Sabina, Naomi, Gideon and Martha - and himself. Camp has 5.

That leaves Kalonzo as odd man out. He simply out-gunned - and can only make DPORK if they are convinced he would be the best - or would leak votes. But knowing arrogance from both Uhuru & Raila - he is kaput. This one looks like Martha has it.

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2022, 11:39:03 AM »
I like the thinking of this Ochungwa guy.

1) Uhuru will pick somebody who wont overshadow him in mt kenya - that rule out PK/Martha.
2) Ruto likely to go for Ndidi Nyoro.

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2022, 10:14:15 PM »
Martha look likely to nail the honour of escorting Raila to retirement.

She is set on trip abroad with Jakom

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/how-mt-kenya-is-arm-twisting-raila-to-win-running-mate-ticket-3788284
That is right @pundit. Here for the diaspora and Azimio team in Washington, the question of who will be Raila running mate is settled.

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2022, 10:16:32 PM »
We in Kenya Kwanza are praying you make that mistake. You will be adding 43,000 votes and substracting at least a million from Kalonzo group. If I was to guess where Kalonzo is spending his free time - it's somewhere negotiating a plan B with Ruto people. The day you announce it's not Kalonzo - Kalonzo will announce his move out of Azimio.

That is right @pundit. Here in diaspora, in Washington, the question of who will be Raila running mate is settled.

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2022, 10:27:43 PM »
You have heard but choose to ignore that quientisatial saying that a day in politics is a long time, and so you continue to peddle figures that are 5 years old even when the arithmetic has changed and Raila has not been betrayed ...  :85: won't be betrayed.
We in Kenya Kwanza are praying you make that mistake. You will be adding 43,000 votes and substracting at least a million from Kalonzo group. If I was to guess where Kalonzo is spending his free time - it's somewhere negotiating a plan B with Ruto people. The day you announce it's not Kalonzo - Kalonzo will announce his move out of Azimio.

That is right @pundit. Here in diaspora, in Washington, the question of who will be Raila running mate is settled.

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2022, 10:35:55 PM »
You dont know what betrayal is until it's literally hit you on the face. You'll know when in Kioni and Kanini Kega and ichwaeri polling station Raila scores zero :). Three months to election - nobody is selling Raila in central - bar Peter Munya.

Part of being betrayed is being handed dead on arrival Martha or PK - people who long lost their political mojo in GEMA nation - at expense of reliable Kamba vote. Being given Kioni :) - surely to manage you.

This game is too complicated for you and Raila. 5th or 6th loss loading.....about 90% complete.

This Ruto long time hater is about to get it.

Poor Gitau Warigi.

https://nation.africa/kenya/blogs-opinion/opinion/why-do-president-uhuru-kenyatta-s-men-desert-him--3792268

You have heard but chose to ignore that quientisatial saying that a day in politics is a long time, and so you continue to peddle figures that are 5 years old even when the arithmetic has changed and Raila has not been betrayed ...  :85: won't be betrayed.