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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2022, 10:44:57 AM »

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2022, 12:01:03 PM »
Yes they will no point promising someone DPORK if you cannot win it.
Ruto has make sure he has rigging margins - given Uhuru will try to rig.
I think for both Raila and Ruto GEMA DPORK is ideal.
However if Raila has picked Kalonzo and Uhuru lead  the Kabila mbili propaganda (azimio unity aint working) -
Ruto has the leeway to pick maDVD

I agree with you, what Mudavadi brings is respectability of the ticket more than numbers. I still feel that DP has already consolidated all that he can from Central, bypassing Uhuru. If Azimio candidate was anybody else, I agree Ruto's running mate would matter but in this case with Raila's candidacy, DP's GEMA votes are safe. Any GEMA running mate has has the same issue in my opinion, they are not adding much to Ruto's basket. And they are probably not going to leave for Azimio (I'm not sure about Meru though).
It will also avoid that talk of Mt Kenya and Kalenjin which usually tends to suppress support in other regions.
But anyway we're just armchair analysts, I'm sure they are looking at all those scenarios and will act accordingly. Plus I think all these issues will be properly negotiated so nobody feels shortchanged. Ruto has the advantage that he has yet to betray anyone politically so far, so his word is more trustworthy.

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2022, 12:18:05 PM »
Malala upping the ante - if kalonzo has it in Azimio - maDVD wants it - or perhaps this choregraphed - I think RVHH had aluded that probability of dropping Kikuyu DPork in Ruto inner circles.

I'd say Gachagua now has 60 percent; maDVD has improved his chance of DPORK to 40 percent.


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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2022, 12:40:20 PM »

DPork Is Mt Kenya, just like it was Rift Valleys in 2013 and 2017. One thing I know about Ruto is that he is focused unlike Raila when instead of picking Ruto as DPM in2008 he went with Mudavadi and it cost him dearly in 2013.

Malala upping the ante - if kalonzo has it in Azimio - maDVD wants it - or perhaps this choregraphed - I think RVHH had aluded that probability of dropping Kikuyu DPork in Ruto inner circles.

I'd say Gachagua now has 60 percent; maDVD has improved his chance of DPORK to 40 percent.


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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2022, 01:38:37 PM »
If Mt kenya are resolute - yes. If not - maDVD could come into play. So far Mt Kenya are resolutely in Hustler Nation. Moses Kuria and Martha would have given Uhuru some propagandist but now it's just him & Kioni :) - so hapo I dont see big threat. He has kiraitu & Munya in Merus who are credible - but in kikuyu proper he is NAKED - walking with Kioni, kanini kega and the other dynasities.

So maDVD chance are even lower than 40 percent - maybe 20 percent - but it's going to be a conversation if Kalonzo get it.

DPork Is Mt Kenya, just like it was Rift Valleys in 2013 and 2017. One thing I know about Ruto is that he is focused unlike Raila when instead of picking Ruto as DPM in2008 he went with Mudavadi and it cost him dearly in 2013.

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2022, 08:30:03 AM »

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Re: Choice of running mate
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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2022, 12:50:16 PM »
Mizani Ceo - think Ndindi Nyoro is good to go

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2022, 12:51:01 PM »
Say Munya would make ideal running mate for Raila

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2022, 01:11:03 PM »
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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2022, 02:23:11 PM »
Luhya are very hopeful of DPORK unlike Kamba. With alternative parties ODM, DAP Luhya fallout is very likely.


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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2022, 02:26:43 PM »
Ungesoma hapo chini.. Kalonzo is actually prepping kamba for ghost PM and few CS

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But the former vice-president, widely seen as the Ukambani political kingpin, said he was ready to forfeit that post for any other provided the community he represents gets a third of the plum positions in the government.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/kalonzo-i-will-be-raila-s-deputy-3752328

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2022, 03:03:08 PM »
Very likely Gideon is DPORK - he is one who paid Kalonzo off.
Ungesoma hapo chini.. Kalonzo is actually prepping kamba for ghost PM and few CS

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But the former vice-president, widely seen as the Ukambani political kingpin, said he was ready to forfeit that post for any other provided the community he represents gets a third of the plum positions in the government.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/kalonzo-i-will-be-raila-s-deputy-3752328

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2022, 10:02:25 AM »

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2022, 11:14:44 PM »
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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2022, 11:33:36 PM »
I get the new spin from UDA fake newsdesk is Gideon for DPORK, Uhuru for PM. Except in few months they will have to spin away the official Raila-PK ticket.

Very likely Gideon is DPORK - he is one who paid Kalonzo off.
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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2022, 07:23:17 AM »
Look like both camps may seize each other until one blinks.
Karua versus Wahome - both are women but too old.
Munya versus Kindiki - Merus
PK versus Ndidi - Muranga
Kalonzo versus MaDVD - Non GEMA
Lastly the realistic tickets
Gachagua - has probably bought it
Gideon Moi - has probably bought it


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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2022, 08:47:28 PM »
Nomination fallout reap both sides.
Runningmate fallout reap both sides. Who reap most is the question.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2022, 09:42:13 PM »
Increasingly looking like Raila has given up on mt Kenya and is back to the trusty Kalonzo ticket.I believe their internal polling are showing things are thick in Mt Kenya and kambas are going to Ruto without kalonzo as Doork.I cannot read Ruto tea leaves..still look like Gachagua is hot favourite

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Re: Choice of running mate
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2022, 09:44:05 PM »
The next two weeks should clear two things..final coalition deals on 9th this week and 26th party primaries.That leave month of may for running mate drama.