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Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« on: February 22, 2022, 07:13:20 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/europe/top-stories/putin-orders-troops-to-eastern-ukraine-after-formally-recognizing-two-moscow-backed-separatist-regions/ar-AAU8SIw?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2022, 07:57:19 AM »
Whole thing is about NATO encirclement of Russia

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2022, 08:01:34 AM »
Russia occupies the entire North Pole - bigger than US and Western Europe combined. How do you encircle that. Russia are the head of the world literally - can hit US, Europe, China, Japan - from their land borders.

Russia occupies 10 percent of world



Whole thing is about NATO encirclement of Russia

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2022, 08:44:39 AM »
How come no one likes Russia?  :D They are up there with Islamic fanatics at repelling allies. All their fellow Slavs have deserted them and went over to the West, their former colonies want nothing to do with them. Yes NATO is not helping matters, but it really comes down to Russia's repulsiveness, its gangster like nature doesn't endear it to countries. They are an odd country, third world mentality along with first world military tech = dangerous combo.
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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2022, 08:50:39 AM »
Pundit has lost badly am tending to think he is becoming senile. Who ever thought sleepy joe could pull a fast one on putin.
Main loser Putin.
Main winner Biden.
Even if Putin was to invade and occupy Ukraine still he would be a loser,and that's what Uncle Joe was praying for an invasion so that he can finally destabilize Russia into regional states balkan style.

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2022, 09:03:53 AM »
You're incorrigible as always. Putin has single-handily handled the US for decades. He is the only Alpha male in the world. It almost whatever Putin wants - he gets. He doesnt negotiate.
Pundit has lost badly am tending to think he is becoming senile. Who ever thought sleepy joe could pull a fast one on putin.
Main loser Putin.
Main winner Biden.
Even if Putin was to invade and occupy Ukraine still he would be a loser,and that's what Uncle Joe was praying for an invasion so that he can finally destabilize Russia into regional states balkan style.

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2022, 09:07:38 AM »
That is best description of Russia. Their military tech makes them the alpha males. If Germany was allowed to build their military - they would counter Russia - but for now - it's little island (putin word) like Britain that are trying to fighting with a giant.

Russia has weapons and natural resources - entire north pole - country twice bigger than US - that span the three northern developed world continents - of Americas, Europe and Asia.

So there is a lot going for them - Putin, Natural resources and Nuclear heads - strategic location to hit all the world super powers if they were to mess with Russia.

third world mentality along with first world military tech = dangerous combo.

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2022, 09:25:42 AM »
That is best description of Russia. Their military tech makes them the alpha males. If Germany was allowed to build their military - they would counter Russia - but for now - it's little island (putin word) like Britain that are trying to fighting with a giant.

Russia has weapons and natural resources - entire north pole - country twice bigger than US - that span the three northern developed world continents - of Americas, Europe and Asia.

So there is a lot going for them - Putin, Natural resources and Nuclear heads - strategic location to hit all the world super powers if they were to mess with Russia.

An alpha that continually has to threaten to get his way is no alpha. Russia is a wounded civilization, still smarting from the shellacking at the hands of the West, they have no soft power pull. No friends, no allies (unless you are counting Belarus & NK)

Shriveled up industrial base, declining population, all those minerals can't be exploited because a) they are under miles of permafrost b) they don't have the capital and know how to extract.

For now Russia is basically living off its hydrocarbons like Gulf Arab nations do. No innovation, no industries.

Putin has to continually threaten to use his nukes every few years to get his way, no other country does nuclear saber rattling except it and NK. Very terroristic like.

Russia = upper volta with missiles as a German chancellor Schmidt once put it.
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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2022, 09:34:59 AM »
Compare to US meddling all over the world - Russia has more genuine friends - even if it was one.
US is the ultimate global bully
It just cannot bully the Russia
And that is what many people include me like about Russia and Putin.
The one country that can tell the US to go jump into Lake victoria
And they would not start war games like they intimidate China or Germany or Iran or Japan.
This what world ought to be -
Russia and their internal affairs - nobody cares - whether they are developed, autocratic - as long as they keep it to their north pole.
But US has often conflate it's position in the world - to be some GOD over the world
And yet it been irresponsible and mostly acted like pure idiots

As long as the US foreign policy continue to be US-first -isreal-second- not human-first - we will continue to cheer Putin and Russia.

An alpha that continually has to threaten to get his way is no alpha. Russia is a wounded civilization, still smarting from the shellacking at the hands of the West, they have no soft power pull. No friends, no allies (unless you are counting Belarus & NK)

Shriveled up industrial base, declining population, all those minerals can't be exploited because a) they are under miles of permafrost b) they don't have the capital and know how to extract.

For now Russia is basically living off its hydrocarbons like Gulf Arab nations do. No innovation, no industries.

Putin has to continually threaten to use his nukes every few years to get his way, no other country does nuclear saber rattling except it and NK. Very terroristic like.

Russia = upper volta with missiles as a German chancellor Schmidt once put it.

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2022, 10:36:53 AM »
Compare to US meddling all over the world - Russia has more genuine friends - even if it was one.
US is the ultimate global bully
It just cannot bully the Russia
And that is what many people include me like about Russia and Putin.
The one country that can tell the US to go jump into Lake victoria
And they would not start war games like they intimidate China or Germany or Iran or Japan.
This what world ought to be -
Russia and their internal affairs - nobody cares - whether they are developed, autocratic - as long as they keep it to their north pole.
But US has often conflate it's position in the world - to be some GOD over the world
And yet it been irresponsible and mostly acted like pure idiots

As long as the US foreign policy continue to be US-first -isreal-second- not human-first - we will continue to cheer Putin and Russia.


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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2022, 11:01:12 AM »
Russia occupies the entire North Pole - bigger than US and Western Europe combined. How do you encircle that. Russia are the head of the world literally - can hit US, Europe, China, Japan - from their land borders.

Russia occupies 10 percent of world



Whole thing is about NATO encirclement of Russia

Idiot,

NATO is a military organization which has swallod former Soviet and communist leaning states.

Not just NATO,look at pro America military bases globally and particularly bordering Russia.

The former USSR communist states have become capitalist apart from russia and few other states.

The whole game is to control all major trade international routes and security installations

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2022, 01:06:19 PM »
You're incorrigible as always. Putin has single-handily handled the US for decades. He is the only Alpha male in the world. It almost whatever Putin wants - he gets. He doesnt negotiate.
Pundit has lost badly am tending to think he is becoming senile. Who ever thought sleepy joe could pull a fast one on putin.
Main loser Putin.
Main winner Biden.
Even if Putin was to invade and occupy Ukraine still he would be a loser,and that's what Uncle Joe was praying for an invasion so that he can finally destabilize Russia into regional states balkan style.
This is the mogotio worrior thinking that will make you kiss dust after kura

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2022, 01:57:56 PM »
Dont bring local issues in international thread. Pigia Raila na bado Ruto anashida :)
This is the mogotio worrior thinking that will make you kiss dust after kura

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2022, 02:51:17 PM »
Dont bring local issues in international thread. Pigia Raila na bado Ruto anashida :)
This is the mogotio worrior thinking that will make you kiss dust after kura
All politics is local,only that i started it this time,99% of the time is you using other war scenarios in the world to bring out the kalenjin worrior bla bla bla 2 million strong

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2022, 02:55:45 PM »
In this thread - I dont recall talking about any kalenjin worriers - just the mighty Putin.
All politics is local,only that i started it this time,99% of the time is you using other war scenarios in the world to bring out the kalenjin worrior bla bla bla 2 million strong

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2022, 03:28:06 PM »
Whole thing is about NATO encirclement of Russia

NO!
Reason why these counties joined NATO is because they feel threatened by the big bear who wants to go back to 1950s. If Russia had been a friendly neighbor like during Yeltsin's time none of these coulda happened.

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2022, 03:28:45 PM »
Dont bring local issues in international thread. Pigia Raila na bado Ruto anashida :)
This is the mogotio worrior thinking that will make you kiss dust after kura

AGREED!!!

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2022, 06:23:09 PM »
Putin couldn't go home with nothing. He had to do something and he just did. At what cost?

His rubble will crumble. You see Russia is that bully that no one likes. He has lost so many backyard fights but he is still stuck in vicious cycle of bullying.
 Russia will continue to be butt of jokes of Yankees. The only people impressed by putins antics are people from villages in third world

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2022, 07:13:09 PM »
Putin couldn't go home with nothing. He had to do something and he just did. At what cost?

His rubble will crumble. You see Russia is that bully that no one likes. He has lost so many backyard fights but he is still stuck in vicious cycle of bullying.
 Russia will continue to be butt of jokes of Yankees. The only people impressed by putins antics are people from villages in third world

He made sure he has his own kind of "Democracy" before he started rebuilding the Russian empire. Killed, poisoned, or maimed every opposition figure so that he appears to have full support. Invasion of Ukrain is ongoing. Nobody really knows what will happen next.
One thing am sure is commodity driven inflation will hit hardest.

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Re: Putin carves Ukraine like the boss he is
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2022, 08:01:37 PM »
Compare to US meddling all over the world - Russia has more genuine friends - even if it was one.
US is the ultimate global bully
It just cannot bully the Russia
And that is what many people include me like about Russia and Putin.
The one country that can tell the US to go jump into Lake victoria
And they would not start war games like they intimidate China or Germany or Iran or Japan.
This what world ought to be -
Russia and their internal affairs - nobody cares - whether they are developed, autocratic - as long as they keep it to their north pole.
But US has often conflate it's position in the world - to be some GOD over the world
And yet it been irresponsible and mostly acted like pure idiots

As long as the US foreign policy continue to be US-first -isreal-second- not human-first - we will continue to cheer Putin and Russia.

You are going off on a tangent. The basic issue is why can't Russia woo others on to her side?

Like what makes it so radioactive to countries that ought to be her closest allies?

That is crucial failure of Russia.

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