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The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« on: February 22, 2022, 06:23:12 AM »
Friends,

There has been a very big lie that has been peddled across the media for a very long time and it needs to be completely dismantled.

(1) After independence, Instead of Kenyatta allocating, subdividing coffee and sisal plantations back to his landless kikuyu people, He allocated that land to himself and his friends.

(2) He then went ahead to allocated land to his kikuyu people in Kalenjin ancestral land. That caused a lot of rifts between him and Jaramogi the leader of the Luo people. Many Kalenjin leaders like chelagat Mutai protested against this land issue.In order to protect the Kikuyu who were already in Kalenjin land, He appointed Daniel Moi as vice president to ensure that the Kikuyu were politically protested and bring stability in government.

(3) After Kenyatta died,Moi (Kalenjin) took over in 1978.

(4) In 1982,Luo Air force men and some kikuyu tried to overthrow president Moi.

(5) After Moi defeated the coup masterminds, He recruited majority Kalenjin's in the Police,Military,Intelligence and provincial administration from 1982 to 2002 which means that Kibaki was just a president on paper when he took over in 2003.

(6) Lets go back to 1992,The Kenya constitution stated that you did not need 50% threshold to become president.KANU used security apparatus, provincial administration and media monopoly to cause chaos and displace luo,kikuyu,luhya and kisii to ensure they won the election. It is well documented in the akiwumi report.

(7) In 2011,That why former GSU commandant CHERAMBOSS in the Moi Government was charged at ICC for war crimes because senior security chiefs in the former Moi gov used their old networks to unleash and plan violence in 2007.

(8) In short, There has never been Kalenjin warriors, It was just KANU using security machinery to go start civil war to ensure total control.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO USE VIOLENCE TO WIN ELECTIONS TODAY?

Its not possible for the following reasons:

(a) The ICC

(b) The constitution places a 50% threshold to win an election. That means No single tribe can win an election. Ruto needs Kikuyu and Luhya votes to win the 2022 presidential election. That means he wouldn't want even a single case of violence because that would cost his political career popularity wise in Mt Kenya and Mulembe nation.

(c) War would only lead to dismantling of Kenya as a republic and nobody would want that because  it means all rich politicians would loose control of their wealth in new republics and nation states through legislation.

(d) The Kenya police and army is now multi ethnic,

THERE CAN NEVER BE VIOLENCE IN KENYA,NEVER.

50% + 1.

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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2022, 07:20:33 AM »
You're wrong totally from the word go.
British came to Kenya - signed peace deals - or forcefully acquired land
Kalenjin, Maasai, and Kikuyu land - some in coast- was mostly taken away by the British - and turned into white highlands.
When Mzungu left - it gave Kenya gov money to resettle people back into white highlands.
Kalenjin, Maasai and Coast protested the decision
Saying their land should revert back to original owners.
Kenyatta & Jaramogi said it was now modern kenya where willing buy willing seller would buy land everywhere.
Kalenjin and others were unhappy.
Anyway Kalenjin land at least - was taken over by Jomo Kenyatta and his people, Jaramogi and his people, Masinde Muliro and his people,
Nyachae and his people.
This is because Kalenjin had lost in KADU and the new KANU guys pretty much influence the land resettlement fund to bring millions of their people to rift valley.
Remember btw 1952 to 1962 - Kikuyus had basically been shipped back to Central - and confined to restricted villages as Mau Mau war contaiment.
In 1960s therefore Kalenjin watched with aghast as millions of Kikuyus, Luos, Kisii and Luhyas descended on their ancestral land.
They were very unhappy
And still are very unhappy.
Jaramogi and Luos took over the sugar belt - with Jaramogi grabbing 500 acres in Muhorini (Muhorini is kalenjin word)
Luos settled in Nyando valley - from Kibos to chemelil to got alila to muhoroni - infact all the way to Kipkelion and nandi kibos.
In 1992 a few of those in Kericho district - Kipkelion and nandi - were evicted
Famously in Thesalia farm
Kikuyu land grab was even more profound.
Luhya land grab of Tranzoia at behest of Masinde Muliro also big.

Why is war easy to start in Kalenjin land.

Kalenjin not only have the capacity to quickly engage in war but also still have the ambition to recover the land.

Therefore they will use any opportunity like a stolen election to try to recover the land.

Therefore it's important not to give them that opportunity.

2007 was such opportunity - when Luos were fighting for democracy - Kalenjin were recovering their land.

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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2022, 07:52:20 AM »
I agree with you on most issues.This is not an intellectual contest.

The point is very simple, Kenyatta and his cromies created modern day tribal clashes by acquiring large tracts of land while displacing communities especially in rift valley .

In Kiambu county,from limuru cianda juja to thika that land is owned by very few people while the peasant were allocated very small tract of land.

Laikipia is even worse,

How many acres did the Oginga dynasty steal?Table evidence.

Moi used police gangs to harass these migrant communities in the name of warriors.

A REAL WARRIOR does not burn children in church.

This time we are rigging it live live,hakuna kiti mtafanya.

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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2022, 07:59:16 AM »
Nyar Kisumo,
Odinga has 500 acres in Chemelil-Muhoronis
And so do Omamos.
As for police and warriors :) :)
You can rig - or conduct a constitutional coup - but remember the risk this time are sky high
You could lose the country
Uhuru will not retire to Northland city - but possibly Hague
I agree with you on most issues.This is not an intellectual contest.

The point is very simple, Kenyatta and his cromies created modern day tribal clashes by acquiring large tracts of land while displacing communities especially in rift valley .

In Kiambu county,from limuru cianda juja to thika that land is owned by very few people while the peasant were allocated very small tract of land.

Laikipia is even worse,

How many acres did the Oginga dynasty steal?Table evidence.

Moi used police gangs to harass these migrant communities in the name of warriors.

A REAL WARRIOR does not burn children in church.

This time we are rigging it live live,hakuna kiti mtafanya.


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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2022, 10:46:45 AM »
Odinga 500 acres vs Kenyatta how many acres?. Stop replying for the sake of you don't have anything sensible give it a pass.

The risk of rigging Ruto in August is NIL.

The death of a single Kikuyu because of politics will cost Ruto or Raila one million Kikuyu votes,Ruto doesn't want violence AT ALL.He knows the past.Nobody wants violence or killing s.

You will watch presidential results on citizen Tv declaring Raila president.If your demigod could wailed in public in 2013 because of winning,What about loosing?

Like I always tell you, Ruto ATALIJUA JIJI.

To UDA leaders,dissociate with RVP,Even the word violence itself shouldn't be in your mind.

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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2022, 10:57:50 AM »
You sound scared more than Uhuru. Uhuru escaped losing his entire wealth to ICC victim funds. I dont know how rigging will be pulled - it has to be brazen and violent. That will naturally spark fight - but RV ndio moto itawaka. This time round forget about ever voting again - we will go for secession - and next election - I will be standing for governor in the great new country of Kalenjinstan.

Kalenjin refuses to be ruled by small boy like Raila.

Odinga 500 acres vs Kenyatta how many acres?. Stop replying for the sake of you don't have anything sensible give it a pass.

The risk of rigging Ruto in August is NIL.

The death of a single Kikuyu because of politics will cost Ruto or Raila one million Kikuyu votes,Ruto doesn't want violence AT ALL.He knows the past.Nobody wants violence or killing s.

You will watch presidential results on citizen Tv declaring Raila president.If your demigod could wailed in public in 2013 because of winning,What about loosing?

Like I always tell you, Ruto ATALIJUA JIJI.

To UDA leaders,dissociate with RVP,Even the word violence itself shouldn't be in your mind.

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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2022, 11:06:03 AM »
Once Kenya disintegrates,you will have the republic of kamatusa (Kalenjin Maasai samburu Turkana) Who will rule the other?Maasai and kalenjin hate each other,How will you manage Turkana pokot wars?

This time,all big boys will salute a small boy during inauguration,

Remember in secession,you loose all your apartments banks and insurance in other states like Nairobi mombasa etc be careful what you wish for.kwanza Amaco na Weston hotel will be mine

Adios

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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2022, 11:29:38 AM »
Nairobi will be our HQ if Maasai come on board - we will reclaim it for them. Uhuru tutamtoa Gatundu hadi afike kwao Muranga :). Kisumo pia tunabeba half of it.
Once Kenya disintegrates,you will have the republic of kamatusa (Kalenjin Maasai samburu Turkana) Who will rule the other?Maasai and kalenjin hate each other,How will you manage Turkana pokot wars?

This time,all big boys will salute a small boy during inauguration,

Remember in secession,you loose all your apartments banks and insurance in other states like Nairobi mombasa etc be careful what you wish for.kwanza Amaco na Weston hotel will be mine

Adios

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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2022, 01:12:57 PM »
Pundit Kalenjin are harmless 2 Million so called "worriors" eti take Nairobi Mursik at its worst.

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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2022, 01:19:12 PM »
Solve the issue of Narok and Kajiado with the Maa before trying to rely on them to go on your murdering spree.

Nairobi iko na wenyewe and Kales have nothing to say there.

Nairobi will be our HQ if Maasai come on board - we will reclaim it for them. Uhuru tutamtoa Gatundu hadi afike kwao Muranga :). Kisumo pia tunabeba half of it.

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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2022, 01:34:41 PM »
Solve the issue of Narok and Kajiado with the Maa before trying to rely on them to go on your murdering spree.

Nairobi iko na wenyewe and Kales have nothing to say there.

Nairobi will be our HQ if Maasai come on board - we will reclaim it for them. Uhuru tutamtoa Gatundu hadi afike kwao Muranga :). Kisumo pia tunabeba half of it.
:D :D kadudu that's rough

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Re: The Kalenjin Warrior Lie.
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2022, 01:56:23 PM »
It depend if Maasai are on our side. Hiyo tunachukua asubuhi. Nyinyi mukisikia pokot inakuja mutatoroka had ethiopia.
Pundit Kalenjin are harmless 2 Million so called "worriors" eti take Nairobi Mursik at its worst.