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Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked

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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2021, 11:26:37 PM »
You must be in social media echo chamber.

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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2021, 12:43:02 AM »
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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2021, 02:20:20 AM »
Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked
Ruto has never lost about since 1997. 90 days before elections, he'll be doing 4-5 campaign rallies and deploying his high profile lieutenants to attend other many mini rallies per day. You can guarantee, by election night, he'll have kissed thousands of babies, shake hands with most Kenyans, and touch the lives of influential folk. In 1997, the late Moi power man Reuben Chesire was leading until the last week, but 4 days before the election, things flipped. With 5 gunias of 20 shilling notes, DP with his green classic Range rover and two Venture Africa Minivans hit the villages from 6:AM to 10PM for 4 days straight shaking hands, buying sugar, salt, and majani, and funding almost every villager on the road. When results came, Chesire, I think, had 15%, and DP was around 85. In Kenya, especially the villages, mkono tubu hakuna kazi! DP knows it; that is why every influential Kenyan, especially council of elders from all tribes, pastors, leaders, youth, and mama mboga groups, is on DP's payroll. It will be 58% at worst and 65% at best.
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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2021, 06:25:33 AM »
I talk to Ruto you dont. Ruto needs Mt Kenya and he needs them to come out in droves.

Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked

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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2021, 06:58:41 AM »
Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked
Ruto has never lost about since 1997. 90 days before elections, he'll be doing 4-5 campaign rallies and deploying his high profile lieutenants to attend other many mini rallies per day. You can guarantee, by election night, he'll have kissed thousands of babies, shake hands with most Kenyans, and touch the lives of influential folk. In 1997, the late Moi power man Reuben Chesire was leading until the last week, but 4 days before the election, things flipped. With 5 gunias of 20 shilling notes, DP with his green classic Range rover and two Venture Africa Minivans hit the villages from 6:AM to 10PM for 4 days straight shaking hands, buying sugar, salt, and majani, and funding almost every villager on the road. When results came, Chesire, I think, had 15%, and DP was around 85. In Kenya, especially the villages, mkono tubu hakuna kazi! DP knows it; that is why every influential Kenyan, especially council of elders from all tribes, pastors, leaders, youth, and mama mboga groups, is on DP's payroll. It will be 58% at worst and 65% at best.
Yes that is my maths too..58% at minimum...Ruto has managed to win both gems and non gema...it's unprecedented.

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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2021, 07:02:48 AM »
I talk to Ruto you dont. Ruto needs Mt Kenya and he needs them to come out in droves.

Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked
This about tribal maths..of course he needs them  to hit 50 percent..but on his own and without gema he will beat Raila in nearly all swing zones..Ruto if he gets gema in good numbers will hit almost 65 percent.

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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2021, 07:11:51 AM »
I checked many county and tribal forums - and I see Ruto/UDA are so popular in some parts its the only party competing for positions. Raila while focusing on Mt kenya has lost the rest of the country to Ruto - and yet as you know Raila will struggle to get 10 percent of Mt kenya.
You must be in social media echo chamber.


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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2021, 09:54:13 AM »
Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked
Ruto has never lost about since 1997. 90 days before elections, he'll be doing 4-5 campaign rallies and deploying his high profile lieutenants to attend other many mini rallies per day. You can guarantee, by election night, he'll have kissed thousands of babies, shake hands with most Kenyans, and touch the lives of influential folk. In 1997, the late Moi power man Reuben Chesire was leading until the last week, but 4 days before the election, things flipped. With 5 gunias of 20 shilling notes, DP with his green classic Range rover and two Venture Africa Minivans hit the villages from 6:AM to 10PM for 4 days straight shaking hands, buying sugar, salt, and majani, and funding almost every villager on the road. When results came, Chesire, I think, had 15%, and DP was around 85. In Kenya, especially the villages, mkono tubu hakuna kazi! DP knows it; that is why every influential Kenyan, especially council of elders from all tribes, pastors, leaders, youth, and mama mboga groups, is on DP's payroll. It will be 58% at worst and 65% at best.

So you expect him to hit country with bag of dosh distributing every village ? If things are so easy why is he still sulking and making funny speech then laughing and prompting people to laugh? Ati si ni hivyo jamani (sulking)? Then laughing into mike.

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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2021, 03:56:28 PM »
Those are lagging indicators. Go back a month or two and you will see that support all gone.  All the leading indicators shows that RAO has the momentum now and that Ruto has peaked.  Its going to take a major major stumble for RAO to lose this race. The battle ground is Mt. Kenya. Whomever wins Mt. Kenya wins. The commitments of the Kikuyu elite to RAO is solidifying and once he becomes their candidate, the hoi-poloi will fall in place. Njojo once said, "we made the kikuyus hate luos and we can reverse it, if we are commited.  He tried back then but could not get the commitment of the kikuyu elite.  This time the Mt. Kenya elite are falling in place like ducks.  Hate can be reversed.

Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked
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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2021, 05:30:40 PM »
RVHH, I said it on a different thread that RAO will nail this thing at 65/35. Put this in your back pocket and take it to the bank.

Meanwhile, I hold out for the $1k bet... by march next year, I expect you (RvHH), RVP, NO-Way, Njuri and Kirgit on your own volition and motion to see no need to wait until August. I will expect you to release the bet so that I can avail the same to the charity that I have in mind.

Your guy will be very lucky to come in with 35%; it could really be a massacre and clean sweep for RAO if you ask me.

Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked
Ruto has never lost about since 1997. 90 days before elections, he'll be doing 4-5 campaign rallies and deploying his high profile lieutenants to attend other many mini rallies per day. You can guarantee, by election night, he'll have kissed thousands of babies, shake hands with most Kenyans, and touch the lives of influential folk. In 1997, the late Moi power man Reuben Chesire was leading until the last week, but 4 days before the election, things flipped. With 5 gunias of 20 shilling notes, DP with his green classic Range rover and two Venture Africa Minivans hit the villages from 6:AM to 10PM for 4 days straight shaking hands, buying sugar, salt, and majani, and funding almost every villager on the road. When results came, Chesire, I think, had 15%, and DP was around 85. In Kenya, especially the villages, mkono tubu hakuna kazi! DP knows it; that is why every influential Kenyan, especially council of elders from all tribes, pastors, leaders, youth, and mama mboga groups, is on DP's payroll. It will be 58% at worst and 65% at best.

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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2021, 05:35:28 PM »
Those are lagging indicators. Go back a month or two and you will see that support all gone.  All the leading indicators shows that RAO has the momentum now and that Ruto has peaked.  Its going to take a major major stumble for RAO to lose this race. The battle ground is Mt. Kenya. Whomever wins Mt. Kenya wins. The commitments of the Kikuyu elite to RAO is solidifying and once he becomes their candidate, the hoi-poloi will fall in place. Njojo once said, "we made the kikuyus hate luos and we can reverse it, if we are commited.  He tried back then but could not get the commitment of the kikuyu elite.  This time the Mt. Kenya elite are falling in place like ducks.  Hate can be reversed.

You are right Mt Kenya elite & their intellectuals are firmly pro Raila now. Ruto for many represents continuation of Jubilee failure, Raila presents an exciting opportunity to turn a new leaf in Kenya's affairs. We have to get the debt situation under control, we run a primary deficit. Can a deeply compromised candidate like Ruto really get Kenya's fiscal house in order?...I doubt it. He is the problem. 2022 represents a huge opportunity.
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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2021, 06:12:03 PM »
Exactly. For the economic problems to be fully addressed, the next president will need a strong mandate and a united country. Only RAO can deliver on that. In the next few months, many Kalenjins will start warming up to RAO privately as they see no future in Ruto but scared of the radicalized youth to come out in the open.  RAO may wrap this thing up by June next year and instead of campaigning, he may end up making unity rallies around the country.

Those are lagging indicators. Go back a month or two and you will see that support all gone.  All the leading indicators shows that RAO has the momentum now and that Ruto has peaked.  Its going to take a major major stumble for RAO to lose this race. The battle ground is Mt. Kenya. Whomever wins Mt. Kenya wins. The commitments of the Kikuyu elite to RAO is solidifying and once he becomes their candidate, the hoi-poloi will fall in place. Njojo once said, "we made the kikuyus hate luos and we can reverse it, if we are commited.  He tried back then but could not get the commitment of the kikuyu elite.  This time the Mt. Kenya elite are falling in place like ducks.  Hate can be reversed.

You are right Mt Kenya elite & their intellectuals are firmly pro Raila now. Ruto for many represents continuation of Jubilee failure, Raila presents an exciting opportunity to turn a new leaf in Kenya's affairs. We have to get the debt situation under control, we run a primary deficit. Can a deeply compromised candidate like Ruto really get Kenya's fiscal house in order?...I doubt it. He is the problem. 2022 represents a huge opportunity.
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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2021, 06:38:58 PM »
Mt Kenya elite have always been pro their interests. The likes of SK Macharia still supported Raila in 2013 and 2017 and Raila still lost.
In Mt Kenya unlike other places the villagers control the politics. Thats why in 2013 when Uhuru tried to say lets go Mudavadi way we told him aache upuzi if its not him no one else. This yime we are saying if its not Ruto wacha ikae.

Those are lagging indicators. Go back a month or two and you will see that support all gone.  All the leading indicators shows that RAO has the momentum now and that Ruto has peaked.  Its going to take a major major stumble for RAO to lose this race. The battle ground is Mt. Kenya. Whomever wins Mt. Kenya wins. The commitments of the Kikuyu elite to RAO is solidifying and once he becomes their candidate, the hoi-poloi will fall in place. Njojo once said, "we made the kikuyus hate luos and we can reverse it, if we are commited.  He tried back then but could not get the commitment of the kikuyu elite.  This time the Mt. Kenya elite are falling in place like ducks.  Hate can be reversed.

Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked

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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2021, 07:32:07 PM »
Mt Kenya elite have always been pro their interests. The likes of SK Macharia still supported Raila in 2013 and 2017 and Raila still lost.
In Mt Kenya unlike other places the villagers control the politics. Thats why in 2013 when Uhuru tried to say lets go Mudavadi way we told him aache upuzi if its not him no one else. This yime we are saying if its not Ruto wacha ikae.



Those are lagging indicators. Go back a month or two and you will see that support all gone.  All the leading indicators shows that RAO has the momentum now and that Ruto has peaked.  Its going to take a major major stumble for RAO to lose this race. The battle ground is Mt. Kenya. Whomever wins Mt. Kenya wins. The commitments of the Kikuyu elite to RAO is solidifying and once he becomes their candidate, the hoi-poloi will fall in place. Njojo once said, "we made the kikuyus hate luos and we can reverse it, if we are commited.  He tried back then but could not get the commitment of the kikuyu elite.  This time the Mt. Kenya elite are falling in place like ducks.  Hate can be reversed.

Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked

Problem with theory is your basing on 2013 and 2017 which were stolen like high priest land. No benchmarks.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2021, 07:45:09 PM »

What is the meaning of stealing ?
Mt Kenyans voting ? Who you want them to support you ?

Mt Kenya elite have always been pro their interests. The likes of SK Macharia still supported Raila in 2013 and 2017 and Raila still lost.
In Mt Kenya unlike other places the villagers control the politics. Thats why in 2013 when Uhuru tried to say lets go Mudavadi way we told him aache upuzi if its not him no one else. This yime we are saying if its not Ruto wacha ikae.



Those are lagging indicators. Go back a month or two and you will see that support all gone.  All the leading indicators shows that RAO has the momentum now and that Ruto has peaked.  Its going to take a major major stumble for RAO to lose this race. The battle ground is Mt. Kenya. Whomever wins Mt. Kenya wins. The commitments of the Kikuyu elite to RAO is solidifying and once he becomes their candidate, the hoi-poloi will fall in place. Njojo once said, "we made the kikuyus hate luos and we can reverse it, if we are commited.  He tried back then but could not get the commitment of the kikuyu elite.  This time the Mt. Kenya elite are falling in place like ducks.  Hate can be reversed.

Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked

Problem with theory is your basing on 2013 and 2017 which were stolen like high priest land. No benchmarks.

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Re: Been browsing Facebook counties groups.. impossible for Ruto lose
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2021, 08:55:07 PM »

What is the meaning of stealing ?
Mt Kenyans voting ? Who you want them to support you ?

Mt Kenya elite have always been pro their interests. The likes of SK Macharia still supported Raila in 2013 and 2017 and Raila still lost.
In Mt Kenya unlike other places the villagers control the politics. Thats why in 2013 when Uhuru tried to say lets go Mudavadi way we told him aache upuzi if its not him no one else. This yime we are saying if its not Ruto wacha ikae.



Those are lagging indicators. Go back a month or two and you will see that support all gone.  All the leading indicators shows that RAO has the momentum now and that Ruto has peaked.  Its going to take a major major stumble for RAO to lose this race. The battle ground is Mt. Kenya. Whomever wins Mt. Kenya wins. The commitments of the Kikuyu elite to RAO is solidifying and once he becomes their candidate, the hoi-poloi will fall in place. Njojo once said, "we made the kikuyus hate luos and we can reverse it, if we are commited.  He tried back then but could not get the commitment of the kikuyu elite.  This time the Mt. Kenya elite are falling in place like ducks.  Hate can be reversed.

Ruto dream was to replicate moi mean machine..that delivered pork against big tribes..it's done..that is 40 percent.Gema is actually an addon.I am convinced Ruto will win by minimum 60 percent...65 percent or two third majority is possible..I really pity those like Raila doesn't know the ground has shifted underneath them...coast has finally cracked

Problem with theory is your basing on 2013 and 2017 which were stolen like high priest land. No benchmarks.

Check the way General Sulk laugh and you will know meaning. Ask Arcadian.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244