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Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« on: October 06, 2021, 11:21:28 AM »
Uhuru must be investigated - after exit from power - commision of inquiry into SGR is needed.

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2021, 11:30:33 AM »
Pundit who own Afristar? SGR can make good money long run. Will it be like KQ you think you own but get into private pockets. When Chinese hand over will Kenyans get anything?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2021, 11:31:37 AM »
Definitely Uhuru. Wanjigi and DL (Ruto) were competing for it. Uhuru took it all. China probably own 70 percent of AfriStar - and Uhuru 30 percent.
Pundit who own Afristar? Will it be like KQ you think you own but get into private pockets. When Chinese hand over will Kenyans get anything?

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2021, 11:33:42 AM »
That's the problem with Africa. We need more Pandora when Ruto take over. Must include Weston.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2021, 11:35:15 AM »
I cannot promise Ruto will address corruption. Neither will Raila. But they can go against opponent graft case either to silence them or buy them off. This going to be a long drawn war...judiciary is the only hope.
That's the problem with Africa. We need more Pandora when Ruto take over. Must include Weston.

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2021, 11:37:30 AM »
I cannot promise Ruto will address corruption. Neither will Raila. But they can go against opponent graft case either to silence them or buy them off. This going to be a long drawn war...judiciary is the only hope.
That's the problem with Africa. We need more Pandora when Ruto take over. Must include Weston.

I hear Ruto speak corruption at some rallies outside Nairobi or in Githurai. Wonders never seize.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2021, 11:40:56 AM »
He has unconventional solution to corruption. He believes the money get stolen because it's idle. That I also partly agree. Idle money get stolen. But if gov and it's official was put to task - they will not steal alot - because gov will be demanding results - you cannot deliver results - if you have stolen the project money.

It like open tendering - it reduces corruption - because of competition among vendors - bring the bribe money down.

AfriStar it simple - they should be asked to deliver their part of the bargain - basically turn SGR profitable at half the price - that will reduce their profitabiliy and Uhuru will make loses. If you try to go for Uhuru - you'll get lost in a maze of fronts all over the world.

I hear Ruto speak corruption at some rallies outside Nairobi or in Githurai. Wonders never seize.

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2021, 11:52:49 AM »

Show proof Uhuru owns 30% of it.....

Definitely Uhuru. Wanjigi and DL (Ruto) were competing for it. Uhuru took it all. China probably own 70 percent of AfriStar - and Uhuru 30 percent.
Pundit who own Afristar? Will it be like KQ you think you own but get into private pockets. When Chinese hand over will Kenyans get anything?

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2021, 12:02:04 PM »
https://www.oraro.co.ke/2018/08/13/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-30-local-ownership-rule-for-foreign-companies/ Therefore, following the commencement of the 2015 Act, any foreign company that wishes to be registered as such in Kenya, must have at least 30% of its shareholding held by people who have a parent or parents, who are Kenyan citizens.

Show proof Uhuru owns 30% of it.....

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2021, 12:30:31 PM »
Okay Excellent proof......Thanks

https://www.oraro.co.ke/2018/08/13/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-30-local-ownership-rule-for-foreign-companies/ Therefore, following the commencement of the 2015 Act, any foreign company that wishes to be registered as such in Kenya, must have at least 30% of its shareholding held by people who have a parent or parents, who are Kenyan citizens.

Show proof Uhuru owns 30% of it.....

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2021, 12:32:25 PM »
Yes it can only be a kenyatta who can go for such a big deal - and keep it top secret- Wanjigi I am sure knows everything. Ruto also know everything. This is really the genesis of their fallout.Uhuru ate everything alone. Ruto was smart to go for smaller deals. Wanjigi still throwing a mega tantrum.
Okay Excellent proof......Thanks

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2021, 03:05:16 PM »

So what links him to the company ?

Yes it can only be a kenyatta who can go for such a big deal - and keep it top secret- Wanjigi I am sure knows everything. Ruto also know everything. This is really the genesis of their fallout.Uhuru ate everything alone. Ruto was smart to go for smaller deals. Wanjigi still throwing a mega tantrum.
Okay Excellent proof......Thanks

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2021, 03:20:30 PM »
Same thing with Moja Expressway, the subsidiary of CRBC that is to run the Nairobi Expressway. Which Chinese would come up with such a name?

Definitely Uhuru. Wanjigi and DL (Ruto) were competing for it. Uhuru took it all. China probably own 70 percent of AfriStar - and Uhuru 30 percent.

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2021, 04:54:00 PM »
Common sense. Who else who'd get such a big deal contract - if Wanjigi didnt and Ruto didn't.
So what links him to the company ?

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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2021, 04:54:48 PM »
Yes - that is why he want to conclude everything before he goes - naskia he is inspecting it day and night - when he is sober - he drives to his expressway-knowing he is set for 30yrs.
Same thing with Moja Expressway, the subsidiary of CRBC that is to run the Nairobi Expressway. Which Chinese would come up with such a name?

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2021, 05:15:22 PM »
Your sgr enthusiasm has waned. China will milk this donkey until it kicks it last kicks. Uhuru was interested not in legacy but kickbacks. He camped in China for weeks getting these deals. You remember his first trip there he carried everyone that mattered and could sign on this debts.

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2021, 05:21:04 PM »
NBA-MSA is good. The problem is 120B kshs for Naivasha section. Without going all the way to Kampala....SGR will struggle. Let hope the old MGR-SGR connection will make it profitable.

Your sgr enthusiasm has waned. China will milk this donkey until it kicks it last kicks. Uhuru was interested not in legacy but kickbacks. He camped in China for weeks getting these deals. You remember his first trip there he carried everyone that mattered and could sign on this debts.

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2021, 07:00:10 PM »

And where is the common sense in the KQ thread...
Common sense. Who else who'd get such a big deal contract - if Wanjigi didnt and Ruto didn't.
So what links him to the company ?

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Re: Time to give China their SGR back :) - they can also take KPA
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2021, 07:34:25 PM »
Because planes were financed by AfriExim and US Exim Bank. There was no need for local content. This 30 percent requirement is a playbook from Moi era. Moi would put such requirement and demand 10-30 percent for almost all investment coming to KEnya.
And where is the common sense in the KQ thread...