If Uhuru Calls Me I'll Ditch Ruto: Gathoni Wamuchomba

[Nefertiti]

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So only a call separates her from home? One year is a long time in Kenya.

[Nefertiti]

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So only a call separates her from home? One year is a long time in Kenya.

In one year I doubt UDA will be standing outside Kalenjin. It has serious problems for a startup - that is what Wamuchomba's statement signifies. Ruto or UDA is not solid.

[RV Pundit]

Do you draw this conclusion based on Wamuchomba?

In one year I doubt UDA will be standing outside Kalenjin. It has serious problems for a startup - that is what Wamuchomba's statement signifies. Ruto or UDA is not solid.

[Nefertiti]

Wamuchomba and other stories. Kuria, Kiunjuri, Ngunjiri, etc. At least Jubilee had few months of peace after launch.

Do you draw this conclusion based on Wamuchomba?

In one year I doubt UDA will be standing outside Kalenjin. It has serious problems for a startup - that is what Wamuchomba's statement signifies. Ruto or UDA is not solid.

[Nefertiti]

Pundit - I doubt even Cate Waruguru can tell you which party she would join if she quit Jubilee. In Laikipia maybe TSP is better. You may not see it but it is bad for new party in tumltuous Kenya. People are fatigued with Mama Mboga chorus.

[RV Pundit]

I guess you missed opinion polls showing Ruto has opened a 30 percent gap against mr Odinga.
What is happening in GEMA is the 7 stages of denial - before they all join UDA.
Kuria/Kiunjuri/Uhuru people are trying to stay afloat post-Kiambaa.
If UDA start at 50 percent in Mt Kenya - that is all you need to win . You do not need 90 percent.
That is why most people will want UDA - a ticket that give you a 50 percent boast is great - in the rift valley of course elections will end in April - UDA will win all seats bar one or two.
If you join the rest - you start from zero political party support- you can as well run as an independent. Kuria and TSP do not have the wherewithal to withstand general election - kwanza he need to run to Gatundu South - so he wont be able to campaign for party candidates.
We have by-election in Meru - let see if Kiraitu will survive with his stillborn party - or UDA will overrun Meru.

Pundit - I doubt even Cate Waruguru can tell you which party she would join if she quit Jubilee. In Laikipia maybe TSP is better. You may not see it but it is bad for new party in tumltuous Kenya. People are fatigued with Mama Mboga chorus.

[Nefertiti]

First: Ruto (or Raila or Kibaki) has held huge "unassailable" margins before crushing defeat. Raila Aug 2010 was at 48% - Kibaki was at 48% during Raila-Kalonzo ODM-K fights. After Pentagon lineup Raila opened wide lead. For now Ruto will "lead" until Handshake unveil lineup - which strategically they cannot do immediately to dull Ruto attacks. Ruto should be let to run alone and deepen the omniprescent fatigue. Dude is all over the place - he seem to running commentary on BBI flop.

Second: Tangatanga has serious internal problems. It is likely to end up in breakups - serious numbers will blow up. So far they were united against Uhuru, BBI, bla bla - now it everyone for himself. I think the demand is for Ruto UDA to back off Central for Kuria/Kiunjuri - in exchange they back him. Greedy Ruto of course is afraid they could betray him if he cedes direct control. The stand-off could lead to serious fight. This I see as second biggest threat to Ruto after Handshake unity.

BTW: Ruto is known to buy followers, journalists and entire media houses. 3 years ago he already fixed some London briefcase to give him 40% - long before he had bottom-up, hustler or any agenda to sell. He is too corrupt so unless we see Ipsos or similar credible stuff am hesitant to believe any polls.

You have't and won't see any mass defections to UDA anywhere let alone Central. Which exposes those fake polls. I can bet they show Ruto beating FordK in Bungoma.

I guess you missed opinion polls showing Ruto has opened a 30 percent gap against mr Odinga.
What is happening in GEMA is the 7 stages of denial - before they all join UDA.
Kuria/Kiunjuri/Uhuru people are trying to stay afloat post-Kiambaa.
If UDA start at 50 percent - that is all you need to win
That is why most people will want UDA.
If you join the rest - you start from zero political party support.
We have by-election in Meru - let see if Kiraitu will survive with his stillborn party - or UDA will overrun Meru.

[Nefertiti]

There is a by-election in Meru? I expect Muturi party vs UDA. It should be interesting to watch Gema area without Uhuru as punchbag for covid and dynasty.

[RV Pundit]

MOAS will not change and I haven't be paid;
Study the figures. Ruto numbers are solid. According to twitter polls of 70K sample; his lead is 58 percent.
As for Mt kenya - yes they want Ruto to backoff - Ruto aint.
Ruto has told Kiunjuri-Kuria - they need to negotiate inside - not outside.
Accepting to pander to them now - means losing very loyal folks who have kept Ruto a float directly.
There is big group - that one Kuria or Kiunjuri - there are about 40mps plus within GEMA alone who directly support Ruto and want to run on UDA.
Nationally it become a hot potato.
I am not sure which defection you're still waiting for - Kieleweke has reduced to 9 mps.
I see them joining Moses Kuria soon if they find UDA crowded.
They know they cannot sell Raila odinga in Mt kenya.

When folks talk about handshake building a coalition - it's like Ruto hands are tied If a 15 percent guy can promise heaven - and 45 percent promises your the same - which one will you listen to.

For now Ruto is not interested in coalition for strategic reasons - of building UDA after Jubilee was destroyed.

Ruto will do his coalition April-June. And it mostly rigging margins or insurance against GEMA kitchensink politics that Uhuru may unleash.

Dont be surprised of Kalonzo or MaDVD crossing over to Ruto - and ending Raila thing before it even begin

Real coalition serious talk begin in April huko.

First: Ruto (or Raila or Kibaki) has held huge "unassailable" margins before crushing defeat. Raila Aug 2010 was at 48% - Kibaki was at 48% during Raila-Kalonzo ODM-K fights. After Pentagon lineup Raila opened wide lead. For now Ruto will "lead" until Handshake unveil lineup - which strategically they cannot do immediately to dull Ruto attacks. Ruto should be let to run alone and deepen the omniprescent fatigue. Dude is all over the place - he seem to running commentary on BBI flop.

Second: Tangatanga has serious internal problems. It is likely to end up in breakups - serious numbers will blow up. So far they were united against Uhuru, BBI, bla bla - now it everyone for himself. I think the demand is for Ruto UDA to back off Central for Kuria/Kiunjuri - in exchange they back him. Greedy Ruto of course is afraid they could betray him if he cedes direct control. The stand-off could lead to serious fight. This I see as second biggest threat to Ruto after Handshake unity.

BTW: Ruto is known to buy followers, journalists and entire media houses. 3 years ago he already fixed some London briefcase to give him 40% - long before he had bottom-up, hustler or any agenda to sell. He is too corrupt so unless we see Ipsos or similar credible stuff am hesitant to believe any polls.

You have't and won't see any mass defections to UDA anywhere let alone Central. Which exposes those fake polls. I can bet they show Ruto beating FordK in Bungoma.

I guess you missed opinion polls showing Ruto has opened a 30 percent gap against mr Odinga.
What is happening in GEMA is the 7 stages of denial - before they all join UDA.
Kuria/Kiunjuri/Uhuru people are trying to stay afloat post-Kiambaa.
If UDA start at 50 percent - that is all you need to win
That is why most people will want UDA.
If you join the rest - you start from zero political party support.
We have by-election in Meru - let see if Kiraitu will survive with his stillborn party - or UDA will overrun Meru.

[Nefertiti]

Nowayhaha is hysterical over some 43% Ruto poll from Radio Jambo or somewhere. Your MOAS are hot air.

Problems can't be wished away... BBI is dead - it only some NGO guy who has gone to SCORK not Raila-Handshake crew. Mdvd is making noise but I believe OKA are settled on Raila - Mdvd will be ghost PM same as in NASA. What better will Ruto give him - cash? After scathingly attacking Ruto for years it is very hard for any of the NASA guys to join him. Mdvd and Kalonzo are anti-Ruto diehards. Maybe Weta? Maybe they need to warm by embracing bottom-up like Obado. I see nothing in sight.

You can't wish away Tangatanga problems. RUTO VS KURIA INTERESTS ARE MISALIGNED. Both want to control Kikuyu vote. Ruto has more to lose obviously - cause Kuria is mere small (friendly?) opponent - Raila & Uhuru are out there. Kuria has the most power RIGHT NOW - he is not a fool - if he let Ruto take everything it game over - after elections he will be a nobody akin to Ndindi Nyoro or Wahome. Right now if the fight continues - Moses Kuria openly attacking Ruto can be very lethal. He just needs to attack bottom-up or hustler as fake promise. Underdogs can easily pick up and ferment grievances - like Ngunjiri can easily claim BBI gains were good for Gema and Ruto shot them down.

Kuria is not alone.

MOAS will not change and I haven't be paid;
Study the figures. Ruto numbers are solid. According to twitter polls of 70K sample; his lead is 58 percent.
As for Mt kenya - yes they want Ruto to backoff - Ruto aint.
Ruto has told Kiunjuri-Kuria - they need to negotiate inside - not outside.
Accepting to pander to them now - means losing very loyal folks who have kept Ruto a float directly.
There is big group - that one Kuria or Kiunjuri - there are about 40mps plus within GEMA alone who directly support Ruto and want to run on UDA.
Nationally it become a hot potato.
I am not sure which defection you're still waiting for - Kieleweke has reduced to 9 mps.
I see them joining Moses Kuria soon if they find UDA crowded.
They know they cannot sell Raila odinga in Mt kenya.

When folks talk about handshake building a coalition - it's like Ruto hands are tied If a 15 percent guy can promise heaven - and 45 percent promises your the same - which one will you listen to.

For now Ruto is not interested in coalition for strategic reasons - of building UDA after Jubilee was destroyed.

Ruto will do his coalition April-June. And it mostly rigging margins or insurance against GEMA kitchensink politics that Uhuru may unleash.

Dont be surprised of Kalonzo or MaDVD crossing over to Ruto - and ending Raila thing before it even begin

Real coalition serious talk begin in April huko.

[RV Pundit]

You call MOAS hot-air
MaDVD and Kalonzo are opportunist;
They have two proposals; one guy who is at almost there; and another guy who need everyone on board; and who will still lose unless he cracks GEMA.
Now unless you're not rational - they will pick Raila and LOSE AGAIN

Next election me think has already been won.
Ruto should concentrate on staying alive.

OKA guys are just eating Uhuru and Raila money - and Gideon Money too. Come April - they will run and pick their wheelbarrow. In fact I believe Weta already has his wheelbarrow with Lusaka.

Otherwise they know Raila ticket is one hopeless move. They have been there - and done that.

Moses Kuria will be dealt by wakina Ndidi Nyoro. He is not a Ruto Level. - and to finish him is simple - just allege he is double agent - something Murathe already told folks - and he start sweating even in Gatundu South - where UDA candidate will run.

Kiunjuri if he had a brain would long have folded TSP - he is a loner - and has destroyed himself - long before Munya did it at kilimo house.

Many of these people should seek my advice. Moses Kuria has Kiambu governorship for taking - but he wants to fight an elephant - when he has not even a single MP.

You can run around in Mt kenya until they ask you who is the option. Raila is a NO. Then ushindwe la kusema. The moment you say Raila you basically finished politically speaking. So who?

Nowayhaha is hysterical over some 43% Ruto poll from Radio Jambo or somewhere. Your MOAS are hot air.

Problems can't be wished away... BBI is dead - it only some NGO guy who has gone to SCORK not Raila-Handshake crew. Mdvd is making noise but I believe OKA are settled on Raila - Mdvd will be ghost PM same as in NASA. What better will Ruto give him - cash? After scathingly attacking Ruto for years it is very hard for any of the NASA guys to join him. Mdvd and Kalonzo are anti-Ruto diehards. Maybe Weta? Maybe they need to warm by embracing bottom-up like Obado. I see nothing in sight.

You can't wish away Tangatanga problems. RUTO VS KURIA INTERESTS ARE MISALIGNED. Both want to control Kikuyu vote. Ruto has more to lose obviously - cause Kuria is mere small (friendly?) opponent - Raila & Uhuru are out there. Kuria has the most power RIGHT NOW - he is not a fool - if he let Ruto take everything it game over - after elections he will be a nobody akin to Ndindi Nyoro or Wahome. Right now if the fight continues - Moses Kuria openly attacking Ruto can be very lethal. He just needs to attack bottom-up or hustler as fake promise. Underdogs can easily pick up and ferment grievances - like Ngunjiri can easily claim BBI gains were good for Gema and Ruto shot them down.

Kuria is not alone.

MOAS will not change and I haven't be paid;
Study the figures. Ruto numbers are solid. According to twitter polls of 70K sample; his lead is 58 percent.
As for Mt kenya - yes they want Ruto to backoff - Ruto aint.
Ruto has told Kiunjuri-Kuria - they need to negotiate inside - not outside.
Accepting to pander to them now - means losing very loyal folks who have kept Ruto a float directly.
There is big group - that one Kuria or Kiunjuri - there are about 40mps plus within GEMA alone who directly support Ruto and want to run on UDA.
Nationally it become a hot potato.
I am not sure which defection you're still waiting for - Kieleweke has reduced to 9 mps.
I see them joining Moses Kuria soon if they find UDA crowded.
They know they cannot sell Raila odinga in Mt kenya.

When folks talk about handshake building a coalition - it's like Ruto hands are tied If a 15 percent guy can promise heaven - and 45 percent promises your the same - which one will you listen to.

For now Ruto is not interested in coalition for strategic reasons - of building UDA after Jubilee was destroyed.

Ruto will do his coalition April-June. And it mostly rigging margins or insurance against GEMA kitchensink politics that Uhuru may unleash.

Dont be surprised of Kalonzo or MaDVD crossing over to Ruto - and ending Raila thing before it even begin

Real coalition serious talk begin in April huko.

[gout]

The fact that she does not get calls is evidence of how snobbish ufool is and this has been the center of ruto being a darling of the politicians and masses. Accessibility.

Only when desperate about BBI cremation does he call OKA twice in Mombasa probably seated where jomo used to sit.