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Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« on: August 13, 2021, 01:39:04 PM »
I am not sure about the veracity of this - but it clear Mt kenya are really angry at Uhuru.

https://www.sonkonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/videoz.mp4?_=1

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2021, 01:55:14 PM »
Morw like they against anything Raila.Uhuru washes himself from Raila and he would be the most celebrated person there.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2021, 01:59:52 PM »
Maybe too late for that. Moi never recovered amongst Kalenjin. Once a community perceive you're interested more on your personal rather than community interest; they reject you almost in toto.

The bottomline as I see; it not only in Raila; it endangering the life and properties of a million of kikuyus in Rift valley by reopening old wounds that had healed; that kind of recklessness breed deep seated bitterness and hatred - not only amongst the diaspora - but also their relatives.

Even if Uhuru was to back Kalonzo or maDVD - the 1 million diaspora kikuyus in RV future will remain the elephant - for they will be meet with such hostility and repercussion in RV - if not now - but definitely in near future - it almost crazy Uhuru can entertain that kind of reckless politicking.

Morw like they against anything Raila.Uhuru washes himself from Raila and he would be the most celebrated person there.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2021, 02:22:04 PM »
There are other ways one can read your post: It can be either a self-fulfilling prophesy you are making or a veiled attempt at tribal blackmail (vote for Ruto or else...). This, by the way, is the second such post I've seen by you.

For Kenya's sake, I hope I am wrong.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/pop-culture/self-fulfilling-prophecy/

Maybe too late for that. Moi never recovered amongst Kalenjin. Once a community perceive you're interested more on your personal rather than community interest; they reject you almost in toto.

The bottomline as I see; it not only in Raila; it endangering the life and properties of a million of kikuyus in Rift valley by reopening old wounds that had healed; that kind of recklessness breed deep seated bitterness and hatred - not only amongst the diaspora - but also their relatives.

Even if Uhuru was to back Kalonzo or maDVD - the 1 million diaspora kikuyus in RV future will remain the elephant - for they will be meet with such hostility and repercussion in RV - if not now - but definitely in near future - it almost crazy Uhuru can entertain that kind of reckless politicking.

Morw like they against anything Raila.Uhuru washes himself from Raila and he would be the most celebrated person there.
Don't steal. The Uhuruto Government hates competition.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2021, 02:26:37 PM »
I am dispassionate political pundit. I analyze things as they are. Is Ruto a thief - yes. Did Gachagua kill Gukuru - possibly. Is Raila a thief -yes. Is Uhuru a thief- yes.Did Ruto kill witnesses - yebei yes. Did Uhuru kill Mungiki witnesses - a lot. What would happen in the event of political fallout btw Kikuyu-Kalenjin - we go back to pre-2010 - tension - clashes - arm race - that kind of thig. And big possibility of major tribal clashes like 2007.

As of now - no kalenjin will talk war - because Kikiyus refused to buy into Uhuru schemes and election has not happened - but trust me - if we wake up on 10th August 2022 - and kikuyus say do not vote for Ruto - and you are kikuyu leaving amongst kalenjin - you better run - if they dont react then - they will bide their time until the opportunity come - but in the meantime they will harass you - steal your cows and the works. If Mt kenya had bought into Uhuru and company schemes - RV now would be full of tension - people would be migrating out to safe places.

Once you learn to analyze things dispassionately - as they are - not as you wish - then you start to make the right calls/judgements/predictions/decisions.

There are other ways one can read your post: It can be either a self-fulfilling prophesy you are making or a veiled attempt at tribal blackmail (vote for Ruto or else...). This, by the way, is the second such post I've seen by you.

For Kenya's sake, I hope I am wrong.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/pop-culture/self-fulfilling-prophecy/

Maybe too late for that. Moi never recovered amongst Kalenjin. Once a community perceive you're interested more on your personal rather than community interest; they reject you almost in toto.

The bottomline as I see; it not only in Raila; it endangering the life and properties of a million of kikuyus in Rift valley by reopening old wounds that had healed; that kind of recklessness breed deep seated bitterness and hatred - not only amongst the diaspora - but also their relatives.

Even if Uhuru was to back Kalonzo or maDVD - the 1 million diaspora kikuyus in RV future will remain the elephant - for they will be meet with such hostility and repercussion in RV - if not now - but definitely in near future - it almost crazy Uhuru can entertain that kind of reckless politicking.

Morw like they against anything Raila.Uhuru washes himself from Raila and he would be the most celebrated person there.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2021, 03:53:50 PM »
I see it from usual Itumbi news. Uhuru is not running for Ichaweri MCA - he is outgoing incumbent dedicated to Ruto defeat.
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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2021, 03:58:27 PM »
Here is Uhuru doing his thing - oiling anti-Ruto engine


Ruto troops: We shall trounce Raila-Uhuru alliance

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Deputy President Wiliam Ruto's allies say they are not worried about the push by major Opposition leaders to craft an alliance against him ahead of 2022.

Political analysts warn, however, that a formidable opposition team backed by President Uhuru Kenyatta could easily vanquish Ruto as he makes a first stab at the presidency.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-08-13-ruto-troops-we-shall-trounce-raila-uhuru-alliance/
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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2021, 04:24:52 PM »
 :o :o :o
Those wounds have never healed. Otherwise you would not be out there blackmailing people.

Maybe too late for that. Moi never recovered amongst Kalenjin. Once a community perceive you're interested more on your personal rather than community interest; they reject you almost in toto.

The bottomline as I see; it not only in Raila; it endangering the life and properties of a million of kikuyus in Rift valley by reopening old wounds that had healed; that kind of recklessness breed deep seated bitterness and hatred - not only amongst the diaspora - but also their relatives.

Even if Uhuru was to back Kalonzo or maDVD - the 1 million diaspora kikuyus in RV future will remain the elephant - for they will be meet with such hostility and repercussion in RV - if not now - but definitely in near future - it almost crazy Uhuru can entertain that kind of reckless politicking.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2021, 04:27:52 PM »
I think if UhuRuto does another 20yrs - then Kikuyu - then Kalenjin - they will heal. They were only re-opened when Kikuyu wanted to cut short MOi presidency. Yet kalenjin had waited patiently for Kenyatta to die. The agreement was Moi was also to die in power - life presidency.Kalenjin understood that was the deal - but clearly Moi was not going to die anytime soon.

Again I am not blackmailing anybody. I am analyzing politics.

Just like 1992 - when Kalenjin revisted the land issue - as Mt kenya agitated to cut short Moi rule - those wounds are linked to POLITICS.For Kikuyu and other diaspora got RV land due to politics (Jomo Kenyatta)

So those two land and politics are intertwined. You have to manage both careful so you dont reopen wounds. You need to be fair. Any 'unfairness' reopen the land woes.

Moronic version - Kikuyu and kalenjin should try to be together in politics :) forever - until kenya urbanize and we kill tribal politics.

:o :o :o
Those wounds have never healed. Otherwise you would not be out there blackmailing people.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2021, 04:33:23 PM »
There is yet a third way to interpret your messages. They can be taken as dog whistles to Kalenjins.

Again, for the sake of Kenya, I hope I am wrong.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dog%20whistle

I think if UhuRuto does another 20yrs - then Kikuyu - then Kalenjin - they will heal. They were only re-opened when Kikuyu wanted to cut short MOi presidency. Yet kalenjin had waited patiently for Kenyatta to die. The agreement was Moi was also to die.

Again I am not blackmailing anybody. I am analyzing politics.

Just like 1992 - when Kalenjin revisted the land issue - as Mt kenya agitated to cut short Moi rule - those wounds are linked to POLITICS.For Kikuyu and other diaspora got RV land due to politics (Jomo Kenyatta)

So those two land and politics are intertwined. You have to manage both careful so you dont reopen wounds. You need to be fair. Any 'unfairness' reopen the land woes.
:o :o :o
Those wounds have never healed. Otherwise you would not be out there blackmailing people.
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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2021, 04:35:36 PM »
Kalenjin do not need any dog whistle; they do not need to be incited; they do not need to be organized; these things they know at back of their head; They know that some tribes invaded their land post colonial period. They have always nursed ambition to take it back - but can give it up - for state largesse. The same way Muranga people see the huge Delmonte farm - and feel they need to take it back.
There is yet a third way to interpret your messages. They can be taken as a dog whistles to Kalenjins.

Again, for the sake of Kenya, I hope I am wrong.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2021, 04:36:50 PM »
This guy is always issuing these threats

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2021, 04:37:50 PM »
RV Ill be honest with you, If there was a repeat of 2007 Kalenjins will lose and will not be able to recover. Uhuru and company St Mary boys wany that.
Now Ruto is a btilliant fellow he saw that years ago and he has tackled it in a way that has made him the incomming President.
In as much Mt Kenya residents care about their relatives in Rift Valley their seige mentality is against Raila.lets say if Raila decides to support Ruto they will turn against Ruto without any campaiging. So you need to stop self deceit that Mt Kenya love Ruto, no they hate Raila amd Ruto is the formidable candidate against Raila just like Uhuru was in 2013 and 2017 and Kibaki was in 2007.

Maybe too late for that. Moi never recovered amongst Kalenjin. Once a community perceive you're interested more on your personal rather than community interest; they reject you almost in toto.

The bottomline as I see; it not only in Raila; it endangering the life and properties of a million of kikuyus in Rift valley by reopening old wounds that had healed; that kind of recklessness breed deep seated bitterness and hatred - not only amongst the diaspora - but also their relatives.

Even if Uhuru was to back Kalonzo or maDVD - the 1 million diaspora kikuyus in RV future will remain the elephant - for they will be meet with such hostility and repercussion in RV - if not now - but definitely in near future - it almost crazy Uhuru can entertain that kind of reckless politicking.

Morw like they against anything Raila.Uhuru washes himself from Raila and he would be the most celebrated person there.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2021, 04:38:28 PM »
Kalenjins may "know" them but that doesn't mean that they cannot be inflamed for political or for "analysis" purposes.

Kalenjin do not need any dog whistle; they do not need to be incited; they do not need to be organized; these things they know at back of their head;
There is yet a third way to interpret your messages. They can be taken as a dog whistles to Kalenjins.

Again, for the sake of Kenya, I hope I am wrong.
Don't steal. The Uhuruto Government hates competition.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2021, 04:38:34 PM »
Show me one threat I have issued. I am analyzing politics. I analyzed Uganda, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kabul. You have a problem with the TRUTH.
This guy is always issuing these threats

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2021, 04:40:44 PM »
Now you using different word. Inflame? Uhuru is the one INFLAMING - just like Kibaki did. Everytime Uhuru unfairly treat Ruto - he inflame Kalenjin. Not Me.Everytime Uhuru hounds a Kalenjin unfarily from a job - the message - he sends is that it okay to unfairly treat a kikuyu immigrant.

Everytime Ruto cries I am humiliated - he inflame kalenjin. NOT me. They dont say...but I know how they feel. They feel 50-50 peace accord kumi kumi has been violated. They dont see the kind to respect the other accords for peaceful coexistence.

I am just helping you understand kalenjin and Kikiyu pysche.

I am helping you understand why Kikuyu hate Uhuru....then you say I am inciting ...because PEV or land clashes or war is TABOO SUBJECT or what.

The information you can use - to stay SAFE or INVEST safely.

Nothing is TABOO subject for me. Forget trying to gag me. And I am last person to incite anybody. I married gema and my kids are half-gema. My investment in Nairobi - especially those at edges - are under threat. My own wife and kids I would not dare take them to kalenjin on some days. Just like I wont find myself in GEMA on some days.

We grew up - the only family in location supporting kibaki - a kikuyu in the 90s. My brother is married to kiambu kikuyu woman.

Kalenjins may "know" them but that doesn't mean that they cannot be inflamed for political purposes.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2021, 04:53:39 PM »
But there have not been any killings of Kikuyus so far. In light of the intense political competition right now, do you feel that some "analysts" may be feeling that some killings are long overdue to send a message to Kikuyus?

Now you using different word. Inflame? Uhuru is the one INFLAMING - just like Kibaki did. Everytime Uhuru unfairly treat Ruto - he inflame Kalenjin. Not Me.Everytime Uhuru hounds a Kalenjin unfarily from a job - the message - he sends is that it okay to unfairly treat a kikuyu immigrant.

Everytime Ruto cries I am humiliated - he inflame kalenjin. NOT me. They dont say...but I know how they feel.

I am just helping you understand kalenjin and Kikiyu pysche.

I am helping you understand why Kikuyu hate Uhuru....then you say I am inciting ...because PEV or land clashes or war is TABOO SUBJECT or what.

The information you can use - to stay SAFE or INVEST safely.

Kalenjins may "know" them but that doesn't mean that they cannot be inflamed for political purposes.
Don't steal. The Uhuruto Government hates competition.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2021, 04:54:44 PM »
Why would they torpedo Ruto chance by doing that. That is like the last option. The joker that someone hides. They will only pull such a card if all cards have been exhausted. Those cards will only exhausted once Ruto has lost in all rounds and appeals 2022 elections.

If you think that I can call for the killing of anybody then you dont know me. You're just a despicable rascal.

If I analyze and say Kalenjin warriors will beat Mungiki and police - it the same way I said the Tigrays will beat Ethiopians or Afgan will beat the US.

If I predict that Kalenjin will go to war with kikuyus if Kumi-kumi is not honoured - then I become an inciter :) or you just do not want to hear the truth.

But there have not been any killings of Kikuyus so far. In light of the intense political competition right now, do you feel that some "analysts" may be feeling that some killings are long overdue to send a message to Kikuyus?

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2021, 04:59:34 PM »
No need to get excited and for the name-calling, especially if your conscience is clear.

Why would they torpedo Ruto chance by doing that. That is like the last option. The joker that someone hides. They will only pull such a card if all cards have been exhausted.

If you think that I can call for the killing of anybody then you dont know me. You're just a despicable rascal.

If I analyze and say Kalenjin warriors will beat Mungiki and police - it the same way I said the Tigrays will beat Ethiopians or Afgan will beat the US.

But there have not been any killings of Kikuyus so far. In light of the intense political competition right now, do you feel that some "analysts" may be feeling that some killings are long overdue to send a message to Kikuyus?
Don't steal. The Uhuruto Government hates competition.

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Re: Uhuru heckled in Ichaweri
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2021, 05:01:19 PM »
You're one doing the name-calling by quoting some "analyst" - I can read between the lines. Just say it directly. I know some of you do not want to hear the truth. But I will always speak the truth.

The truth remains that Kenya can go to civil war anytime if the tribal politics is not well managed like is happening in Ethiopia.

You can bury your head like Rwanda and make it a taboo subject.

The other truth - one key factor of 2022 - and the reason why Ruto signed the deal with Uhuru - is the hostage scenario that GEMA diaspora - provides as insurance from being betrayed like happened to Raila in 2002 or Jaramogi before that. Some of the "Love" Ruto gets from GEMA is actually FEAR. My own girlfriend from Molo - a kikuyu - has told me this severally. On the same coin the HATRED uhuru get is because of that - putting their lifes and properties in danger.

These are truth - nobody in Jubilee or NASA - want to hear.

No need to get excited and for the name-calling, especially if your conscience is clear.