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Offline KenyanPlato

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The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« on: August 05, 2021, 04:59:14 PM »
Farkas just killed to young men and home home to make love to their wives like nothing happened. Just another day as a police officer. Kangongo is a perfect example of how undisciplined these mathafarkas are. Fuck them

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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2021, 07:46:18 AM »
Senseless brutality.

The day people pick up arms Boko Haram style may not be far away. Kenyans need to stop being Kukus and put their lives on the line
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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2021, 11:27:40 AM »
It is the whole system and signals from the top. Once lowly officers are emboldened and protected to harass the deputy president and Mps, citizens can be brutalized with impunity. The outcry is mainly because they are university students from a well off family.

Ufool has destroyed all accountability institutions and now with idiotic curfew excuses anyone can be brutalized, killed and nothing happens. 
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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2021, 11:55:33 AM »

What I saw in Kenyans is that they have been brainwashed by media too much that they dont care about bettering their lives.



Senseless brutality.

The day people pick up arms Boko Haram style may not be far away. Kenyans need to stop being Kukus and put their lives on the line

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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2021, 12:00:17 PM »
Do not only blame Uhuru. Anyone who inherits the current system will want to keep it intact in order to stay in power by all means possible.
Focus should be on the training of the police. Has it ever been reviewed since the colonial regime?

It is the whole system and signals from the top. Once lowly officers are emboldened and protected to harass the deputy president and Mps, citizens can be brutalized with impunity. The outcry is mainly because they are university students from a well off family.

Ufool has destroyed all accountability institutions and now with idiotic curfew excuses anyone can be brutalized, killed and nothing happens.

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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2021, 12:24:46 PM »
Training has been done - we need external ex-pat police - say we hire police officers from say Singapore or Australia to become senior expats - and to institute reforms.

We tried with Gen Ali and GSU - not much came out of it.

I think it's time we hired expats to help our police create a new modern force.

Also there are too many D minus in police forces - we should start hiring jobless graduates only - so we can start raising the average IQ of the average policeman.

Do not only blame Uhuru. Anyone who inherits the current system will want to keep it intact in order to stay in power by all means possible.
Focus should be on the training of the police. Has it ever been reviewed since the colonial regime?


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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2021, 02:04:23 PM »
A genuine comprehensive bottoms up approach will address these issues. These were young hustlers doing their bit in selling pork - a value addition activity for pig farmers who need respect not killing.

First step should be doing away with the curfew - young men whose parents have no issue with them bringing Covid shoyd not be killed - ati we are protecting some imaginary population.

Also more integration of police in the community to make them part of the community - not ticks who have come to extract and punish citizens.

The police from other communities could not understand how young Meru men would be 'mang'aa' yet officers drawn from the community would likely be joking in their local dialect.
It just like mzungu crazy johnies policing people they knew nothing about.


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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2021, 02:19:46 PM »
Absolutely - if the police were local - they wont murder their own - and will know the bad apples. All police should be local except elite FBI/DCI squad - NIS and such,
A genuine comprehensive bottoms up approach will address these issues. These were young hustlers doing their bit in selling pork - a value addition activity for pig farmers who need respect not killing.

First step should be doing away with the curfew - young men whose parents have no issue with them bringing Covid shoyd not be killed - ati we are protecting some imaginary population.

Also more integration of police in the community to make them part of the community - not ticks who have come to extract and punish citizens.

The police from other communities could not understand how young Meru men would be 'mang'aa' yet officers drawn from the community would likely be joking in their local dialect.
It just like mzungu crazy johnies policing people they knew nothing about.




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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2021, 03:43:33 PM »
As we used to say in Ololo, hapo umedinya point.
The police force has to be localised. As Pundit has already mentioned, nobody will brutalise or kill one of their own. Kenya took over the colonial system of taking policemen to strange places they knew nothing about. The outcome is a no connection of the locals to the police force.
We would also solve the problem of housing for the police officers. They can be staying in their own houses and be reporting to their stations in the local area.

A genuine comprehensive bottoms up approach will address these issues. These were young hustlers doing their bit in selling pork - a value addition activity for pig farmers who need respect not killing.

First step should be doing away with the curfew - young men whose parents have no issue with them bringing Covid shoyd not be killed - ati we are protecting some imaginary population.

Also more integration of police in the community to make them part of the community - not ticks who have come to extract and punish citizens.

The police from other communities could not understand how young Meru men would be 'mang'aa' yet officers drawn from the community would likely be joking in their local dialect.
It just like mzungu crazy johnies policing people they knew nothing about.

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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2021, 06:48:36 PM »
They should wear body cams and do good stuff in the community. For instance broadcast their day to day with a funds page where some random person in the world can donate.

Actually we could have a new category for this... maybe we could call it NipTik Crowdfunding. Meaning post your TikTok causes and we'll set-up an account for you to be funded right here in this forum... hmmm let me figure this out...

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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2021, 07:23:41 PM »
Community policing is the key, GEMA police should only be posted in Gema areas, Luos kadhalika. Kenyan tribes hate each other with venom, more so than whites even hate blacks at times, it is scary. In the aftermath of the George Floyd execution, one of the recommendations people put forward was to recruit police officers from the inner city instead of the suburbs. You would be more careful antagonizing people where you live.
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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2021, 07:56:32 PM »
And the police too would love to be with their families.

It really simple - give each police a transfer form - let the choose the police station they would like to be transferred.

90 percent will choose their home county.

Problems of housing and etc solved. Police will also stay with their families - not spend time in dingy bars - but spend time as respectable people in socieity.

Community policing is the key, GEMA police should only be posted in Gema areas, Luos kadhalika. Kenyan tribes hate each other with venom, more so than whites even hate blacks at times, it is scary. In the aftermath of the George Floyd execution, one of the recommendations people put forward was to recruit police officers from the inner city instead of the suburbs. You would be more careful antagonizing people where you live.

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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2021, 04:01:14 AM »
Veri sometimes sounds like a 'blondie'...chuckling

They should wear body cams and do good stuff in the community. For instance broadcast their day to day with a funds page where some random person in the world can donate.

Actually we could have a new category for this... maybe we could call it NipTik Crowdfunding. Meaning post your TikTok causes and we'll set-up an account for you to be funded right here in this forum... hmmm let me figure this out...

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Re: The undisciplined murdering kenyan police force
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2021, 01:13:51 PM »
And the police too would love to be with their families.

It really simple - give each police a transfer form - let the choose the police station they would like to be transferred.

90 percent will choose their home county.

Problems of housing and etc solved. Police will also stay with their families - not spend time in dingy bars - but spend time as respectable people in socieity.

Community policing is the key, GEMA police should only be posted in Gema areas, Luos kadhalika. Kenyan tribes hate each other with venom, more so than whites even hate blacks at times, it is scary. In the aftermath of the George Floyd execution, one of the recommendations people put forward was to recruit police officers from the inner city instead of the suburbs. You would be more careful antagonizing people where you live.

Makes a lot of sense and here we agree (surprise!). However, how do you handle a situation where "worriers" have come from the village with bows and arrows to protect high priest and the police are all locals?
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