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Re: Mandatory NHIF - very welcomed - monthly 500shs
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2021, 05:00:15 AM »
Venezuela is a prime example. Hugo Chavez - their big mouthed fanatically socialist president promised them all goodies under the sun, free housing, wage increases, free food, free medical care etc. They got it none of what he promised, instead they are economic refugees flooding into Colombia because they are starving. They failed a basic test of maturity, there is no free lunch in life, you can't believe charlatans promising manna from heaven. In nature you have to earn your keep that is how it has been since life evolved.
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Singapore is a prime example of minimal night watchman state. Hong Kong is another.

This is meme-spewing passing as "wisdom" imbibed through uncritical, unresearched, uneducated absorption of false metanarratives from Fox, CNN, and their friends at the Times. The US has actively sabotaged Venezuela in the international system, forced it out of the financial markets over which it has hegemonic/bully control ever since their right-wing stooges in that country got the kick from the behind. But no worries. That reign is soon coming to an end then this and other silly "factoids" will fall with it. Eti "Venezuela-Chavez" :D Could u be any more cliche?

And Singapore? Aren't you the one who talked about freedom being the capitalist way? Why pick an authoritarian example, then?
Socialism has never worked in a low trust society, a safety net won't work in Kenya. Odumbocare is one big failure further proving socialism is impractical, government coercion doesn't work. Voluntary exchange is the way.

Dude, tell that to the 2 to 3 million elderly Kenyans who now have a reliable, modest income for food and other basic ncessities who were previously left to the mercy of sometimes-neglectful family and jiggers before this "serikali-saidia program."

Obamacare is just a mild version of the Swiss healthcare system. Its problems are due to not going far enough, contrary to what you claim. What was needed was a fully tax-supported govt insurance scheme, It can only be considered a failure when compared to countries that provide tax-based insurance, like France. But it's a mighty success when compared to the previous laissez-faire system that reserved non-emergency health care for the rich only.

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Re: Mandatory NHIF - very welcomed - monthly 500shs
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2021, 05:50:50 AM »
This is meme-spewing passing as "wisdom" imbibed through uncritical, unresearched, uneducated absorption of false metanarratives from Fox, CNN, and their friends at the Times. The US has actively sabotaged Venezuela in the international system, forced it out of the financial markets over which it has hegemonic/bully control ever since their right-wing stooges in that country got the kick from the behind. But no worries. That reign is soon coming to an end then this and other silly "factoids" will fall with it. Eti "Venezuela-Chavez" :D Could u be any more cliche? 

Ok we have a fully fledged conspiracy spewing Marxist at hand folks, watch out! The US went after the Venezuelan junta after it went rogue, the socialist cake had been baked long before the world imposed sanctions. It was the right move, Maduro basically became a dictator, usurped the legislature, cancelled elections, thousands of poor Venezuelans started streaming out weekly due to widespread poverty and hunger. We all saw what happened unless you are living in an alternate universe.

And Singapore? Aren't you the one who talked about freedom being the capitalist way? Why pick an authoritarian example, then?

You are confused. Singapore is a free democratic country with civil freedoms, due process and a market economy.

Dude, tell that to the 2 to 3 million elderly Kenyans who now have a reliable, modest income for food and other basic ncessities who were previously left to the mercy of sometimes-neglectful family and jiggers before this "serikali-saidia program."

Proof? Pension schemes in low trust societies don't work as advertised. Look what happen to de Naija man below.





Obamacare is just a mild version of the Swiss healthcare system. Its problems are due to not going far enough, contrary to what you claim. What was needed was a fully tax-supported govt insurance scheme, It can only be considered a failure when compared to countries that provide tax-based insurance, like France. But it's a mighty success when compared to the previous laissez-faire system that reserved non-emergency health care for the rich only.

 :D :D You are entitled to your opinions but not your facts buddy. A fully tax supported government insurance would literally destroy American healthcare and its economy. Odumbocare is a big Failure. Socialized healthcare which does nothing to control health care costs is the not the answer, getting the government out of the picture is - in America it is government regulations that distort the health insurance market. Health care should not be any different from any other sector of the economy it is not imbued with special characteristics that make it immune to market forces but as I said there is too much intervention. They are fee for service healthcare providers who treat patients at a fraction of what the cost is. Instead of looking for simple solutions like these serikali saidia types in the US want the gubmint to tend to every misfortune of an individual which is unrealistic. Learn about freedom and choice.
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Re: Mandatory NHIF - very welcomed - monthly 500shs
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2021, 06:06:49 AM »
You are confused. Singapore is a free democratic country with civil freedoms, due process and a market economy.

What a joke. Singapore developed into the first world as a straight DICTATORSHIP, coming up with their concept of "authoritarian capitalism."

https://www.worldfinance.com/special-reports/how-singapore-married-dictatorship-with-a-market-economy

It's confirmed. You don't know a damn thing about what you're spewing here.

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Proof? Pension schemes in low trust societies don't work as advertised. Look what happen to de Naija man below.


If all you have is anecdotes about why it's bad to support our elderly, then just go away. I know countless distant relations in shags who rely on this every month and it makes a BIG difference in their poor families who can't afford to fully care for them and children in a good way. The only problem is the model of relying on chiefs instead of tech like Mpesa which is easily fixable.

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You are entitled to your opinions but not your facts buddy. A fully tax supported government insurance would literally destroy American healthcare and its economy.
You are an idiot. Please show me how it has destroyed France, Canada, Australia, Sweden, Finland, Norway, the UK and others. Just go back to Fox News already.