Havard ignored their own Implicit Bias Test

[veritas]

Something doesn't add up about this case. If they are referring to Asian Americans from India and not China or Korea then this is fake news. I say this because I assess scholarship applications that come from all around the world, and the ones coming from India don't meet the cut. The ethnicity of the scholarships awarded were from East Asia or the Middle East, none from India, Anglo or European. I've assessed over a hundred scholarship applicants from India and Bangladesh but none were high performing students. The high performing students were from East Asia, Middle East like Iran or Africa.

[Dear Mami]

This is interesting. Asian-American is too broad. India alone is 1.2 billion +. The term should be replaced with something else denoting people from India and surrounding lands like Pakistan, Nepal, Sri Lanka; You should have a different one for ethnicities from the middle East and North Africa, a separate one for central Asians, another for East Asians, and a separate one for Polynesians. But I guess in the US where these numbers are tiny it makes sense to group them together but that may eschew the picture as that article seems to suggest. It may be that some Asians who wouldn't cut it if the SATs were the only standard are cutting it based on these other criteria because they've overcome war, being a refugee, migrating, being a 1st or 2nd generation migrant in a new land without strong support due to poverty etc etc etc

I remember back in the day the best student from every district would go to the National School of their choice and some from North Eastern ended up getting in with 100 marks less than the others and the parents on the enrollment day were all worried that the kid wouldnt hack it. He had the lowest of all the rubbles and by far. Come end of first term exams, there would be a very different story told. Lol. I guess that was kind of affirmative action because if they went by strict KCPE results, only kids from Nairobi and some other few towns would get in. Not because they're smarter but because they are better prepared for the exams. For the previous 8 years. It wasn't perfect but by saying first from each tiny place, they were judging them more fairly than just strictly looking at the marks on a national list of top to last.

I guess Harvard is attempting to do something similar with the different criteria.  Because even in Nairobi, you have kids from Korogocho and Kibera and what have you who get locked out because their parents cant afford to give them good preparation.

[veritas]

That makes sense for secondary schools but not for colleges. Colleges welcome anyone with filthy money not the I saved up my life's savings so my kid can go to college. Scholarships are strictly marks regardless of what a terd he/she might be and where they come from. This is the spectrum high performing students fall under. If they don't have good marks then they aren't considered high performing and will need to compete in terms of how rich their parents are, extracurricular activities, their gender, ethnicity, prove their worth etc. etc. it's better to get a taste of the real world sooner than later.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Something doesn't add up about this case. If they are referring to Asian Americans from India and not China or Korea then this is fake news. I say this because I assess scholarship applications that come from all around the world, and the ones coming from India don't meet the cut. The ethnicity of the scholarships awarded were from East Asia or the Middle East, none from India, Anglo or European. I've assessed over a hundred scholarship applicants from India and Bangladesh but none were high performing students. The high performing students were from East Asia, Middle East like Iran or Africa.

I think you are conflating scholarships and admissions.  Asian-Americans and Asians.  Asian-Americans are children of very highly educated parents or themselves very highly educated immigrants.  In the US this tends to apply across the board with the exception of Hmong people(and maybe Vietnamese).

Janelle Wong is saying that they generally have an advantage of being well prepared for the SAT portion of the admission requirements.  By default, this leaves them poorly prepared on the other measures - such overcoming institutional hurdles - that are readily available to a slave descended Negro in the ghetto or the child of an orange picker in some valley in California.

[vooke]

Something doesn't add up about this case. If they are referring to Asian Americans from India and not China or Korea then this is fake news. I say this because I assess scholarship applications that come from all around the world, and the ones coming from India don't meet the cut. The ethnicity of the scholarships awarded were from East Asia or the Middle East, none from India, Anglo or European. I've assessed over a hundred scholarship applicants from India and Bangladesh but none were high performing students. The high performing students were from East Asia, Middle East like Iran or Africa.

I think you are conflating scholarships and admissions.  Asian-Americans and Asians.  Asian-Americans are children of very highly educated parents or themselves very highly educated immigrants.  In the US this tends to apply across the board with the exception of Hmong people(and maybe Vietnamese).

Janelle Wong is saying that they generally have an advantage of being well prepared for the SAT portion of the admission requirements.  By default, this leaves them poorly prepared on the other measures - such overcoming institutional hurdles - that are readily available to a slave descended Negro in the ghetto or the child of an orange picker in some valley in California.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Another link that sheds some light on Asian performance on SAT.  They practice taking SAT tests more than other groups.

A new study has found that East Asian American students (those whose families come from China, Japan or Korea) are significantly more likely than other Asian Americans and members of all other racial or ethnic groups to take SAT preparation courses, and to benefit from such extra coaching.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/01/19/study-finds-east-asian-americans-gain-most-sat-courses