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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2017, 12:23:33 AM »
Ruto may get that reaction because his supporters give the impression that he intends to install authoritarianism. Anyone who doesnt react violently to such a prospect is naive thinking itll be fun living under those terms. Of course, if it is just online nonsense with outsider nobodies and not fununu from those close to the man himself, its no big deal. Under Ruto the same corruption as happens under Gema will continue but Im much more willing to live with corruption however bad than a 1980s style dictatorship. Hiyo hapana. Whoever Jubilee fronts, Im not interested in that old life.

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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2017, 12:25:42 AM »
I largely agree.
I merely meant that I can accurately measure how much of a Babu fanatic you are by the amount of vitriol frothing from your mouth as you dissect Ruto. Ruto provokes insane amounts of bitterness I
Among Babu fans by just being alive

Yeah. In 2007/8 he was shetani... or a "freedom fighter" :D A coin whose betters simply switch positions. He is Kenya's political fulcrum.
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2017, 12:51:47 AM »
Oh 'c'om on. Saying Ruto's presidency  five years from now is inevitable defies logic. That's really over the top. He may as well be but inevitable? Really? 

I don't get how Omollo cannot at least be open to a Ruto presidency given the inevitability. Save for the 0% chance of heart or lightning attack... it's better to discuss the merits & demerits of Rutoism. We can argue about the vifaranga theory but not the after-effects.
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2017, 01:47:35 AM »
In those years ALL wealthy people who were arrested slept in their own beds. They would pay a certain amount and arrange to be picked up from somewhere in town for the ritual of being seen descending from a black maria. It was counted as an arrest. Only exceptions were enemies of the state.

I know for aa fact Pattni never spent a single minute at Industrial area prison. Oyugi was given a chair in the prison commandant's office where he made calls met his people and slept in the nice bedroom of the boss.

ALL those "jailed" in that period never spent a day in prison. The condition was they stay at home to avoid embarrassing someone. There were "accidents" literally when some would be involved in road accidents or other matters forcing the system to embark on a huge coverup. The "fee" was shared between Police Commissioner and prison bosses with the rest reaching the Internal Security minister.

Biwott got a discount. A big discount. Or should I say a knocked down price of 0
Ruto is nearest you've got to a complete politician. It will take you some years to achieve my level of punditry where I am so accurate you think I was the "rigging" scheme :).
Biwott was powerful all thro' till 2000. The arrest everyone knew was faked. Nobody even saw Biwott in any prison. Biwott equally smart - had fought & survived many attempts as you can expect to shove him from Moi's inner trusted advisors. All had failed - except Ruto succeeded in 2001. Biwott plan all along had been to have Saitoti as Pork and him as Dpork. For 10yrs Moi had been made to believe this was the best plan for kenya. Then in come Ruto -after trying to beat Saitoti-Biwwot (KANU A) with other young upstarts(KANU B) - he changed tact  - he made friends with Gideon Moi & Uhuru Kenyatta - Gideon as Moi fav son had unfettered access to statehouse (like Mama Ngina or Muhoho now :))--he was little interested in politics but mainly making money from dodgy deals & blowing that money abroad. They started feeding senile Moi with tall stories, blocked Biwott & Saitoti from Kitchen cabinet & soon enough - Moi was sold to Uhuru Kenyatta PORK. The engine behind all this was one William Ruto. William knew the two boozos were never going to really care about politics - just getting stoned or playing polo or casinos - and he'd ran the GOK. Raila Tosha of course saved us and gave us Kibaki. Ruto by 2022 will have had 20 more years of experience - with 10yr as DPORK - and you expect some feckless kikuyu mafia to stop such a man :) HOW?  Maybe they assassinate the man.

And please Moi is just like done. He is so senile I am told when he wakes up he wants to be taken to the cows (kaptich in Kalenjin) and before he gets there he is back a sleep. So nowadays the sons have arranged he's driven around the compound and back to his bed. To imagine someone whose in such shape can still play politics :) is witchcraft. When is the last time you saw or heard Moi speak or attend any function. Moi is over. Gideon the son is still trying to figure out why it's not Uhuru-Moi as was originally agreed.

One day I will share with you what I know about the relationship between Moi and Biwott.

One or two incidents mean nothing. Moi even threw Biwot in Jail - remember? They remained friends and Biwott was instrumental in beating Matiba and FORD. Kabrak operated on cannibalism. Moi would let in a new person - preferably poor and allow him to gorged himself with money, land and whatever else. They then arranged to knock him down. Remember Kanyingi? Ruto's time had just not arrived. Moi needed him to cut Chesire to size.

Ruto should pray that Moi dies this year. If he doesn't Ruto will not DP (if they read Muigai's judgment tomorrow) or alive if they lose and go home. Moi is not happy that he has upstaged his son. Tell him to find out the deal between mama Ngina, Muhoho's and Moi then he can sleep easy. I could tell you more but that would be helping the enemy.

As for fitina, that is what will knock him out. His love for matusi turns Omollo into an altar boy.
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2017, 01:59:18 AM »
In short you agree with Pundit vide Ruto.

In those years ALL wealthy people who were arrested slept in their own beds. They would pay a certain amount and arrange to be picked up from somewhere in town for the ritual of being seen descending from a black maria. It was counted as an arrest. Only exceptions were enemies of the state.

I know for aa fact Pattni never spent a single minute at Industrial area prison. Oyugi was given a chair in the prison commandant's office where he made calls met his people and slept in the nice bedroom of the boss.

ALL those "jailed" in that period never spent a day in prison. The condition was they stay at home to avoid embarrassing someone. There were "accidents" literally when some would be involved in road accidents or other matters forcing the system to embark on a huge coverup. The "fee" was shared between Police Commissioner and prison bosses with the rest reaching the Internal Security minister.

Biwott got a discount. A big discount. Or should I say a knocked down price of 0
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2017, 02:22:19 AM »
So Jubilee has more MCAs & MPs than ODM and ANC in Bungoma :) NASA morony never ceased to amaze. In the least Weta and Madvd should demand ODM keep off western but noo :o Raila believed the clamor would raise turnout.

Weta beats Madvd to the political incompetence gold medal.

Hair=splitting. You do that. IEBC did special gazette to correct that. Jubilee got 10 MCAS (you can say about 5 are our sabaot people). ODM 7. FOrdk 18. I can find figures of Kakamega if you want.
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2017, 02:38:02 AM »
Omollo how do you spin this "Jubilee-ODM wing" in Bungoma county assembly... while petition axe is pending... in light of your Uhuru lynching analogy up there? Still Uhuru tawe?
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2017, 02:57:16 AM »
Bungoma residents disrupt traffic for an hour to celebrate Lusaka win as Speaker

Sep. 01, 2017, 1:00 am | By BRIAN OJAMAA @ojamab



Lusaka hands over power to Wangamati at Masinde Muliro Kanduyi stadium on Monday last week. /BRIAN OJAMAA


Business operations came to a stand hill yesterday afternoon in Bungoma town as hundreds of residents and boda boda operators celebrated the election of former Governor Kenneth Lusaka as the Senate Speaker.

The residents marched along the Kanduyi-Posta-Bus station road chanting pro-Jubilee and Lusaka tunes.

The celebrations created a major traffic snarl-up and disrupted transport for one hour.


Lusaka, the Jubilee point man in Western, was defeated in the August 8 polls by Wycliffe Wangamati by about 20,000 votes in a hotly contested race.

Wakalama Jaramogi, a resident of Tongaren constituency, said he is happy Jubilee remembered Lusaka after he delivered during the last polls.


https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/09/01/bungoma-residents-disrupt-traffic-for-an-hour-to-celebrate-lusaka-win_c1627392
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2017, 03:02:58 AM »
There's kikuyu population mostly lowly peasants eking out a living under very difficult conditions like most Kenyan's and then there is  kikuyu mafia. Based on 2017 elections which was nothing but a computer coup I would not hold it against kikuyu population.  Gema and kalejin mafia that feeds off crony capitalism has everything to lose.
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2017, 03:19:48 AM »
That Pundit story of a 35yo teetotaller in white kaunda suit upstaging the kitchen cabinet - I saw it - although I was least interested in politics then. The Moi succession had stirred some excitement. Raila's NDP trojan rained on Ruto's party and Ruto didn't keep the grudge.

Inevitable yes.

Oh 'c'om on. Saying Ruto's presidency  five years from now is inevitable defies logic. That's really over the top. He may as well be but inevitable? Really? 
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2017, 03:22:36 AM »
Just remember that even a cat only has nine lives. Sooner or later everybody runs out of luck.

That Pundit story of a 35yo teetotaller in white kaunda suit upstaging the kitchen cabinet - I saw it - although I was least interested in politics then. The Moi succession had stirred some excitement. Raila's NDP trojan rained on Ruto's party and Ruto didn't keep the grudge.

Inevitable yes.

Oh 'c'om on. Saying Ruto's presidency  five years from now is inevitable defies logic. That's really over the top. He may as well be but inevitable? Really? 
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2017, 04:22:44 AM »
I don't know a lot of politics like Pundito and Omorlo, but I know 99% of Ruto's vilification stems from denying Babu's ascendancy to SH in 2013 following their fall out in 2008. He delivered RV bloc that took Babu to within hairbreadth of SH in 2007, then walked out with it intact and handed Uhunye SH on a silver platter. Ruto singlehandedly denied son of Jaramogi what he gave son of Jomo; State House.

In my humble opinion, Babu will die trying just like Jaramogi. None of Babu diehards will forgive Ruto for this. Not even if he doubled our GDP. Forgiving Ruto is high treason, what Okoyu mafia accuse Kiai and Ndii of :lolz:


The manner,type,depth and objectivity behind his vilification are details.

He is rude
He has insatiable appetite for land
He is vindictive
He is greedy
He's a malaya

Ad nauseum

The Luo fighter spirit and ambition is admirable. Rather than the folly characterized as "stubbornness" or "bitterness" by critics. Why must everyone join Jubilee? Raila & Ruto are chips off the same block... with same temperaments... same trojan & brinkman tactics. Both struggle to shed off the polarizing personae. Eccedentesia. Even now Raila will go into full anti-Ruto mode... looking to spin a cohesive alliance or prop an upstart... and Gema will continually reap big as Ruto lines them up to fend him off.

I normally ask myself.  So what if it's bitterness?  If someone keeps shoving it down your ass - like the average Kenyan is being done to - and you don't feel bitterness, there is something wrong with you.  And even if you are not directly on the receiving end and you feel nothing, you simply lack empathy and that is also something wrong.
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2017, 05:21:26 AM »
Robina is on a full "if you can't defeat them-join them" mode.  Her recent moon-walking makes MJ looks like an imposter.

I don't know a lot of politics like Pundito and Omorlo, but I know 99% of Ruto's vilification stems from denying Babu's ascendancy to SH in 2013 following their fall out in 2008. He delivered RV bloc that took Babu to within hairbreadth of SH in 2007, then walked out with it intact and handed Uhunye SH on a silver platter. Ruto singlehandedly denied son of Jaramogi what he gave son of Jomo; State House.

In my humble opinion, Babu will die trying just like Jaramogi. None of Babu diehards will forgive Ruto for this. Not even if he doubled our GDP. Forgiving Ruto is high treason, what Okoyu mafia accuse Kiai and Ndii of :lolz:


The manner,type,depth and objectivity behind his vilification are details.

He is rude
He has insatiable appetite for land
He is vindictive
He is greedy
He's a malaya

Ad nauseum

The Luo fighter spirit and ambition is admirable. Rather than the folly characterized as "stubbornness" or "bitterness" by critics. Why must everyone join Jubilee? Raila & Ruto are chips off the same block... with same temperaments... same trojan & brinkman tactics. Both struggle to shed off the polarizing personae. Eccedentesia. Even now Raila will go into full anti-Ruto mode... looking to spin a cohesive alliance or prop an upstart... and Gema will continually reap big as Ruto lines them up to fend him off.

I normally ask myself.  So what if it's bitterness?  If someone keeps shoving it down your ass - like the average Kenyan is being done to - and you don't feel bitterness, there is something wrong with you.  And even if you are not directly on the receiving end and you feel nothing, you simply lack empathy and that is also something wrong.
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2017, 08:07:36 AM »
I don't know a lot of politics like Pundito and Omorlo, but I know 99% of Ruto's vilification stems from denying Babu's ascendancy to SH in 2013 following their fall out in 2008. He delivered RV bloc that took Babu to within hairbreadth of SH in 2007, then walked out with it intact and handed Uhunye SH on a silver platter. Ruto singlehandedly denied son of Jaramogi what he gave son of Jomo; State House.

In my humble opinion, Babu will die trying just like Jaramogi. None of Babu diehards will forgive Ruto for this. Not even if he doubled our GDP. Forgiving Ruto is high treason, what Okoyu mafia accuse Kiai and Ndii of :lolz:


The manner,type,depth and objectivity behind his vilification are details.

He is rude
He has insatiable appetite for land
He is vindictive
He is greedy
He's a malaya

Ad nauseum

The Luo fighter spirit and ambition is admirable. Rather than the folly characterized as "stubbornness" or "bitterness" by critics. Why must everyone join Jubilee? Raila & Ruto are chips off the same block... with same temperaments... same trojan & brinkman tactics. Both struggle to shed off the polarizing personae. Eccedentesia. Even now Raila will go into full anti-Ruto mode... looking to spin a cohesive alliance or prop an upstart... and Gema will continually reap big as Ruto lines them up to fend him off.

I normally ask myself.  So what if it's bitterness?  If someone keeps shoving it down your ass - like the average Kenyan is being done to - and you don't feel bitterness, there is something wrong with you.  And even if you are not directly on the receiving end and you feel nothing, you simply lack empathy and that is also something wrong.
Nothing wrong with feelings, I placed them in their context; denying Babu the ultimate prize.

From there, they work backwards fishing for all sorts of excuses to hate Ruto. Why's this? Admitting that you hate a man because he neutered Babu is not rational and is highly embarrassing, so they get more palatable excuses
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2017, 08:21:15 AM »
Robina is on a full "if you can't defeat them-join them" mode.  Her recent moon-walking makes MJ looks like an imposter.
In fairness to Robina, this is not an accurate potrayal of her position. She has been fairly consistent. Robina has no sides. She is not pro anyone or anti anyone. She's like a buyer shopping around weighing all available options. All she's interested in is a quick route to development. She supported NASA's election because she thought it would disrupt entrenched tribalism as planned by Ruto which in turn would give way to politics based on development agenda (or "issues" as you would put it). But she has always been open about her willingness to...I won't say "support" but lets say "see the merits" of a Ruto presidency. This has been fairly stable with her, I've even had a debate with her about it as recently as few weeks ago. Last election she supported Jubilee.

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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2017, 08:25:14 AM »
I normally ask myself.  So what if it's bitterness?  If someone keeps shoving it down your ass - like the average Kenyan is being done to - and you don't feel bitterness, there is something wrong with you.  And even if you are not directly on the receiving end and you feel nothing, you simply lack empathy and that is also something wrong.
Hear hear!  :D

And I agree with Robina's post too (that you were responding to).

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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2017, 11:15:28 AM »
Make me change my avatar  :Woot_Emoticon: :Woot_Emoticon: :a102: :a102:


Robina is on a full "if you can't defeat them-join them" mode.  Her recent moon-walking makes MJ looks like an imposter.
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Re: Kikuyus are Revenging of Other Kenyans for 24 Years of Kalenjin Dictatorship
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2017, 12:05:01 PM »
The real winner today is uhuru muigai kenyatta as he's been cleared for any wrong doing, yet he's the rigger!