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Independent candidates may just save Kenya from PEV
« on: June 24, 2017, 09:31:43 PM »
I only have a passing interest in Zamunda elections. I have never seen Pundit so worried even after conjuring up a MOASS. Of late I have read his panicked posts and come to the conclusion that Jubilee is determined to rig itself back to power despite incumbency. With Chebukati now correctly put in his place, focus is on polling booths. IEBC has jumped the gun by telling NASA mainly that only one agent is allowed per polling station. Why when IEBC is seemingly leaning on one side? What will save the numbers is now tge many independent candidates we have in strongholds. I do not see how Kafogo and Waitutu will collaborate to find just the right number of ballots in Kiambu or Thogoto to pad presidential numbers and alliw the RO to announce in time. Independent candidate PK ib Nairobi will also need to sit down with Sonko or MM to agree on numbers for presidential elections. We need to start an independent candidate branch of IEBC.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Independent candidates may just save Kenya from PEV
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2017, 09:55:08 PM »
I am worried because unlike you I love this country and don't have another home. You have passing interest of course because you're tucked safely abroad and think Jesus Christ is the answer of all problems. I want free and fair elections - not free for all chaos that we are proposing here.

There are no independent candidates in Kenya. Maybe Miguna Miguna alone is independent. The rest are Jubilee independent Candidates. ODM independent candidate. Wiper independent candidates.

When it come to tribal collusion in strongholds - that is given - any place where leading candidates has 90% support - then basically nearly everyone including the PO is party supporter. The only outsider in const as far as IEBC goes is RO - PO/Clerks/Agents/Observers/ Deputy RO - are locals.

Tell me how many real party agents Jubilee will get to monitor polling station in Luo Nyanza? People will take care of their votes for small seats - but when it come to presidential - all will agree.


I only have a passing interest in Zamunda elections. I have never seen Pundit so worried even after conjuring up a MOASS. Of late I have read his panicked posts and come to the conclusion that Jubilee is determined to rig itself back to power despite incumbency. With Chebukati now correctly put in his place, focus is on polling booths. IEBC has jumped the gun by telling NASA mainly that only one agent is allowed per polling station. Why when IEBC is seemingly leaning on one side? What will save the numbers is now tge many independent candidates we have in strongholds. I do not see how Kafogo and Waitutu will collaborate to find just the right number of ballots in Kiambu or Thogoto to pad presidential numbers and alliw the RO to announce in time. Independent candidate PK ib Nairobi will also need to sit down with Sonko or MM to agree on numbers for presidential elections. We need to start an independent candidate branch of IEBC.

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Re: Independent candidates may just save Kenya from PEV
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2017, 10:03:26 PM »
By independent I do not mean lacking party sympathies. Kafogo is of course Jubilee ibdependent and MM was allegedly pocketed long ago. What I mean is the difficulty it makes for opposing candidates of one party like Waitutu and Kafogo collaborating to pad numbers just right. The fact that both are Jubilee makes it even harder. In many ways, NASA strongholds may nit have such a big problem. It is Jubilee who is rightly worried by the turn of events. Independents from their strongholds makes their lives much harder than we think. Kafogo is incumbent unwanted candidate with county machinery. NASA has no major issues except maybe Machakos but now Ndeti is clear ahead of Mutua. Put in other words, can two hungry hyenas cooperate to steal a goat for a wounded lion?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Independent candidates may just save Kenya from PEV
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 10:19:18 PM »
You speak like you've never been to a polling booth, tally center of any sort and been to kenya. I have been to them since Moi era. Nairobi & RV. In Nairobi everything is contentious. In Kiambu - all agents will be working to make sure Uhuru get the all votes and Raila get 2 or 3 in every polling station -  in fact the target is normally zero - so bragging right will go - ohoo in our polling station in ndukaini - Raila got zero. Those 3 or so votes will be known - mainly principled diehards - but people will try to declare their vote invalid -small mistake & it's goes invalid or disputed.

Kabogo of course like in 2017 will only spill the beans when he loses. He is one of those guys who don't take loosing lightly. But it will be too late.

By independent I do not mean lacking party sympathies. Kafogo is of course Jubilee ibdependent and MM was allegedly pocketed long ago. What I mean is the difficulty it makes for opposing candidates of one party like Waitutu and Kafogo collaborating to pad numbers just right. The fact that both are Jubilee makes it even harder. In many ways, NASA strongholds may nit have such a big problem. It is Jubilee who is rightly worried by the turn of events. Independents from their strongholds makes their lives much harder than we think. Kafogo is incumbent unwanted candidate with county machinery. NASA has no major issues except maybe Machakos but now Ndeti is clear ahead of Mutua. Put in other words, can two hungry hyenas cooperate to steal a goat for a wounded lion?

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Re: Independent candidates may just save Kenya from PEV
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2017, 01:58:55 AM »
Thika independent candidate may upset Alice. Alice rigged nominations and now she being fought by her opponent.. Ruiru violence is unabated.. Githunguri Jubilee wins, Gatundu North and South Jubilee wins,