Nipate
Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on August 14, 2020, 10:35:47 AM
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Uhuru is clearly unhinged.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-08-13-senators-malala-linturi-accounts-frozen/
The Judiciary should declare laws made through such intimidation tactis null and void.
They need to sue the banks and state.
This only way to safeguard democracy.
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Pundit, you tolerated even murder of people standing on the way of UhuRuto and now you are defending democracy?
There is no democracy in Kenya. With the ascendance of UhuRuto to power we killed any ambitions of have a democratic state in Kenya very soon. Just accept the situation you helped create and learn to live with it.
Uhuru is clearly unhinged.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-08-13-senators-malala-linturi-accounts-frozen/
The Judiciary should declare laws made through such intimidation tactis null and void.
They need to sue the banks and state.
This only way to safeguard democracy.
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When was that. I think you confuse me with other people. I may explain why something happened but will never defend dictatorship.
Pundit, you tolerated even murder of people standing on the way of UhuRuto and now you are defending democracy?
There is no democracy in Kenya. With the ascendance of UhuRuto to power we killed any ambitions of have a democratic state in Kenya very soon. Just accept the situation you helped create and learn to live with it.
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Uhuru is clearly unhinged.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-08-13-senators-malala-linturi-accounts-frozen/
The Judiciary should declare laws made through such intimidation tactis null and void.
They need to sue the banks and state.
This only way to safeguard democracy.
Irony of it all is come 2022 , the same laws will be applied to the same people using them to settle political scores .
It will be interesting to see Matiangi , Murathe , Kibicho in the docks and accounts being frozen what goes around comes around .
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Exactly.
Irony of it all is come 2022 , the same laws will be applied to the same people using them to settle political scores .
It will be interesting to see Matiangi , Murathe , Kibicho in the docks and accounts being frozen what goes around comes around .
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What I have learnt of politics in Kenya is never expect the political class to fight each other once another camp take over SH. They always regroup. You should not be surprised to find Matiangi landing on Ruto's lap in case Ruto is president in 2022. Purging the old ruling class is out of question. You need these people's knowhow to remain on top.
Kibicho, Matiangi and Murathee are going nowhere no matter who becomes president.
Irony of it all is come 2022 , the same laws will be applied to the same people using them to settle political scores .
It will be interesting to see Matiangi , Murathe , Kibicho in the docks and accounts being frozen what goes around comes around .
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Those are dispensable. Uhuru is one going nowhere. Those watu wa Mkono will be dealt with other watu wa mkono. The smart ones will join politics, elevate themselves and insulate themselves. Those that remain non-politician will be hanged.
What I have learnt of politics in Kenya is never expect the political class to fight each other once another camp take over SH. They always regroup. You should not be surprised to find Matiangi landing on Ruto's lap in case Ruto is president in 2022. Purging the old ruling class is out of question. You need these people's knowhow to remain on top.
Kibicho, Matiangi and Murathee are going nowhere no matter who becomes president.
Irony of it all is come 2022 , the same laws will be applied to the same people using them to settle political scores .
It will be interesting to see Matiangi , Murathe , Kibicho in the docks and accounts being frozen what goes around comes around .
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What I have learnt of politics in Kenya is never expect the political class to fight each other once another camp take over SH. They always regroup. You should not be surprised to find Matiangi landing on Ruto's lap in case Ruto is president in 2022. Purging the old ruling class is out of question. You need these people's knowhow to remain on top.
Kibicho, Matiangi and Murathee are going nowhere no matter who becomes president.
Irony of it all is come 2022 , the same laws will be applied to the same people using them to settle political scores .
It will be interesting to see Matiangi , Murathe , Kibicho in the docks and accounts being frozen what goes around comes around .
Usually in such cases , its the silent minority who become influential and powerful (The likes of Muthaura ,Kinyua ),l , That is if you are not in the big leagues .
Matiangi and Kibicho already know that they will never serve post 2022 and they are already throwing themselves in the political ring . Murathe even doesnt care about politics , he will join his friend Uhuru and continue where they left doing Nyama Choma and Whisky , Murathes son DWG might try his chance and vie for M.P. post
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When was that. I think you confuse me with other people. I may explain why something happened but will never defend dictatorship.
Pundit, you tolerated even murder of people standing on the way of UhuRuto and now you are defending democracy?
There is no democracy in Kenya. With the ascendance of UhuRuto to power we killed any ambitions of have a democratic state in Kenya very soon. Just accept the situation you helped create and learn to live with it.
Pundit will you swear on a sacred book that you never spoke of clearing anything and anybody standing in the way of Orutu in 2013 and 2017? We still remember your conversations with Omollo. You know even the internet forgets but Nipate never does.
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Sahahu. Nobody will be hanged. Even Murathe will become Murkomen's and Oscar Sudi's best buddy as he teaches him how to collect mega state tenders at MoH and at Ministry of Transport.
Those are dispensable. Uhuru is one going nowhere. Those watu wa Mkono will be dealt with other watu wa mkono. The smart ones will join politics, elevate themselves and insulate themselves. Those that remain non-politician will be hanged.
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The same creatures that have been talking about defunding judiciary now want the same judiciary to save them. What the hell is deep state? If deep state exists how the hell would one expect free and fair elections?
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Most of you confuse when I speak as Pundit and as Me. Pundit dispense dispassionate punditry. Me as a person I have my own beliefs. I am a liberal, pro-women, pro-democracy, atheist, I also climate change denilaist, many things.
I may support Ruto but I don't deny he is corrupt thief. I just think he has more positive than negatives...compared to his competitor.
I voted Sonko but don't approve his thuggery.
Pundit will you swear on a sacred book that you never spoke of clearing anything and anybody standing in the way of Orutu in 2013 and 2017? We still remember your conversations with Omollo. You know even the internet forgets but Nipate never does.
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Pundit, you tolerated even murder of people standing on the way of UhuRuto and now you are defending democracy?
There is no democracy in Kenya. With the ascendance of UhuRuto to power we killed any ambitions of have a democratic state in Kenya very soon. Just accept the situation you helped create and learn to live with it.
Uhuru is clearly unhinged.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-08-13-senators-malala-linturi-accounts-frozen/
The Judiciary should declare laws made through such intimidation tactis null and void.
They need to sue the banks and state.
This only way to safeguard democracy.
LOL
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LoL :roll: When @pundit says you are confusing him with other people, basically (and in his own words) he is saying you are "confusing him with @RV Pundit" as if those are different persons ... his "other people" include RV pundit .... now that is what I call torturous logic! I gif up ... can you imagine what a two-faced President would potent for any nation? This one could never get my vote.
Most of you confuse when I speak as Pundit and as Me....
When was that. I think you confuse me with other people. I may explain why something happened but will never defend dictatorship.
Pundit, you tolerated even murder of people standing on the way of UhuRuto and now you are defending democracy?
There is no democracy in Kenya. With the ascendance of UhuRuto to power we killed any ambitions of have a democratic state in Kenya very soon. Just accept the situation you helped create and learn to live with it.
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:D Seems like Pundit is taking a leaf from Trump's play book. Basically never admit to being wrong even when caught red handed.
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:D Seems like Pundit is taking a leaf from Trump's play book. Basically never admit to being wrong even when caught red handed.
When RV decides to be objective he can impress ......
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It is not easy to be an undertaker. Carrier of bad news. I got lots of loathing even from family telling them corona is going nowhere, they prepare for rough two years and just learn to live with the virus, way back in March.
People have a problem separating the you from such shitstorm.
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Precisely.
It is not easy to be an undertaker. Carrier of bad news. I got lots of loathing even from family telling them corona is going nowhere, they prepare for rough two years and just learn to live with the virus, way back in March.
People have a problem separating the you from such shitstorm.
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Most of you confuse when I speak as Pundit and as Me. Pundit dispense dispassionate punditry. Me as a person I have my own beliefs. I am a liberal, pro-women, pro-democracy, atheist, I also climate change denilaist, many things.
I may support Ruto but I don't deny he is corrupt thief. I just think he has more positive than negatives...compared to his competitor.
I voted Sonko but don't approve his thuggery.
Pundit will you swear on a sacred book that you never spoke of clearing anything and anybody standing in the way of Orutu in 2013 and 2017? We still remember your conversations with Omollo. You know even the internet forgets but Nipate never does.
Is this a self-diagnosis of bipolar disorder? How can a lay person differentiate? Like saying Uhuru the man and Uhuru the president. You called Uhuru names for BBI and handshake stuff. When he was cozy with Ruto you were his chief choir boy. Will you be consistent and let him be as well?
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Bipolar disorder it is btwn where was the so called deep state when Ruto was in control of Senate and parliament?
Most of you confuse when I speak as Pundit and as Me. Pundit dispense dispassionate punditry. Me as a person I have my own beliefs. I am a liberal, pro-women, pro-democracy, atheist, I also climate change denilaist, many things.
I may support Ruto but I don't deny he is corrupt thief. I just think he has more positive than negatives...compared to his competitor.
I voted Sonko but don't approve his thuggery.
Pundit will you swear on a sacred book that you never spoke of clearing anything and anybody standing in the way of Orutu in 2013 and 2017? We still remember your conversations with Omollo. You know even the internet forgets but Nipate never does.
Is this a self-diagnosis of bipolar disorder? How can a lay person differentiate? Like saying Uhuru the man and Uhuru the president. You called Uhuru names for BBI and handshake stuff. When he was cozy with Ruto you were his chief choir boy. Will you be consistent and let him be as well?
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https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/local-news/2001258630/use-kdf-senator-kindiki-calls-for-military-to-deal-with-raila-s-resistance-movement
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As Pundit is crying about blocked accounts, two years early, https://www.nation.co.ke/kenya/news/chaos-and-gunshots-as-raila-odinga-enters-nairobi-cbd-477830
(https://www.nation.co.ke/resource/image/16654/landscape_ratio16x9/1160/652/78b746bc35f90ad69df2ab64008a0b2a/nZ/h.jpg)
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Attack on democracy Kweli you can spin everything. Kalenjins are ready for opposition politics. I believe you will do a good job till 2032
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Attack on democracy Kweli you can spin everything. Kalenjins are ready for opposition politics. I believe you will do a good job till 2032
Kenya won't even last that long at this rate. They are busy building parks while gutting the core of the nation and tinkering with its revenue sharing formula. The ecological side is not looking good either, runaway population, dwindling resources.
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They prefer being in power so they can loot but damn this look very bad you got to feel sorry for them. I mean how do you get played by a stoned drunkard from ichaweri! Premium tears after killing and stealing the elections for the drunkard so you can steal. No honor among thieves.
Attack on democracy Kweli you can spin everything. Kalenjins are ready for opposition politics. I believe you will do a good job till 2032
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That is it. Pundit is surprised by the turn of events. You steal together, but one side wants to keep all the loot. It is normal for thieves.
They prefer being in power so they can loot but damn this look very bad you got to feel sorry for them. I mean how do you get played by a stoned drunkard from ichaweri! Premium tears after killing and stealing the elections for the drunkard so you can steal. No honor among thieves.
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Judiciary need to flex its muscle but not without official political opposition, civil society and western envoys. Most of the civil society Wambugu Ngunjiri or Aaron Ndumbi types are in bed with Raila "opposition". They want him to beat Ruto so they are playing blind and deaf. Ruto does not have Raila network in civil society. Usually civil society need tactical political leadership like Raila or even Imanyaras, Orengos, Muites - otherwise they retreat to their cocoons. It hard to rattle them without serious threat - like say extending PORK term - they must see retiring Uhuru as passing cloud. Basically so long us their "own" - activists, journalists, judges - are not in trouble they don't care much for purely political feuds. I hope when they attempt to replace Maraga with a lurky civil society will wake up before it's too late. Otherwise the rise of China has largely blunted envoy or donor power.
Uhuru is clearly unhinged.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-08-13-senators-malala-linturi-accounts-frozen/
The Judiciary should declare laws made through such intimidation tactis null and void.
They need to sue the banks and state.
This only way to safeguard democracy.
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If Pundit had such ideology - like I - he would back Raila or even Mdvd. Ruto is a Dubya conservative, small govt, African values and God- fearing, bla bla. Just another Moi wolf in sheep skin. Pundit real ideology is tribalism. :)
That said, I don't agree with Kadudu or GeeMail insinuations that Pundit is responsible for Uhuru lunacy. That a dogmatic stand. Damascus moments are intrinsic in democracy. If Raila wins and become a despot I would equally dump him. Slack I will cut a competitor will not work for an incumbent.
Most of you confuse when I speak as Pundit and as Me. Pundit dispense dispassionate punditry. Me as a person I have my own beliefs. I am a liberal, pro-women, pro-democracy, atheist, I also climate change denilaist, many things.
I may support Ruto but I don't deny he is corrupt thief. I just think he has more positive than negatives...compared to his competitor.
I voted Sonko but don't approve his thuggery.
Pundit will you swear on a sacred book that you never spoke of clearing anything and anybody standing in the way of Orutu in 2013 and 2017? We still remember your conversations with Omollo. You know even the internet forgets but Nipate never does.
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Kenyans are not fools. Kenyans know this was an attempted coup by an arrogant, super ambitious, Vice President, which failed and not a national fight for democracy that Raila and his followers used to wage across the country. Why is Ruto fighting his boss? All he had to do was be patient, loyal, humble and he would inherit ouru's empire without a fight. The notion that Ruto is fighting to increase the democratic space in Kenya is laughable. That is why the civil society is not buying it.
Judiciary need to flex its muscle but not without official political opposition, civil society and western envoys. Most of the civil society Wambugu Ngunjiri or Aaron Ndumbi types are in bed with Raila "opposition". They want him to beat Ruto so they are playing blind and deaf. Ruto does not have Raila network in civil society. Usually civil society need tactical political leadership like Raila or even Imanyaras, Orengos, Muites - otherwise they retreat to their cocoons. It hard to rattle them without serious threat - like say extending PORK term - they must see retiring Uhuru as passing cloud. Basically so long us their "own" - activists, journalists, judges - are not in trouble they don't care much for purely political feuds. I hope when they attempt to replace Maraga with a lurky civil society will wake up before it's too late. Otherwise the rise of China has largely blunted envoy or donor power.
Uhuru is clearly unhinged.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-08-13-senators-malala-linturi-accounts-frozen/
The Judiciary should declare laws made through such intimidation tactis null and void.
They need to sue the banks and state.
This only way to safeguard democracy.
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Yes - activists are not bothered by purely political feuds and competition - which is what this really is. Ruto needs 5 years as kiongozi ya upinzani to get any credibility in the civil society. I foresee a temporary vacuum in activism if Luo become the regime.
Kenyans are not fools. Kenyans know this was an attempted coup by an arrogant, super ambitious, Vice President, which failed and not a national fight for democracy that Raila and his followers used to wage across the country. Why is Ruto fighting his boss? All he had to do was be patient, loyal, humble and he would inherit ouru's empire without a fight. The notion that Ruto is fighting to increase the democratic space in Kenya is laughable. That is why the civil society is not buying it.
Judiciary need to flex its muscle but not without official political opposition, civil society and western envoys. Most of the civil society Wambugu Ngunjiri or Aaron Ndumbi types are in bed with Raila "opposition". They want him to beat Ruto so they are playing blind and deaf. Ruto does not have Raila network in civil society. Usually civil society need tactical political leadership like Raila or even Imanyaras, Orengos, Muites - otherwise they retreat to their cocoons. It hard to rattle them without serious threat - like say extending PORK term - they must see retiring Uhuru as passing cloud. Basically so long us their "own" - activists, journalists, judges - are not in trouble they don't care much for purely political feuds. I hope when they attempt to replace Maraga with a lurky civil society will wake up before it's too late. Otherwise the rise of China has largely blunted envoy or donor power.
Uhuru is clearly unhinged.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-08-13-senators-malala-linturi-accounts-frozen/
The Judiciary should declare laws made through such intimidation tactis null and void.
They need to sue the banks and state.
This only way to safeguard democracy.
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No Damascus moment here more like crocodile tears due to lost opportunity to loot. 'Looter inside'
If Pundit had such ideology - like I - he would back Raila or even Mdvd. Ruto is a Dubya conservative, small govt, African values and God- fearing, bla bla. Just another Moi wolf in sheep skin. Pundit real ideology is tribalism. :)
That said, I don't agree with Kadudu or GeeMail insinuations that Pundit is responsible for Uhuru lunacy. That a dogmatic stand. Damascus moments are intrinsic in democracy. If Raila wins and become a despot I would equally dump him. Slack I will cut a competitor will not work for an incumbent.
Most of you confuse when I speak as Pundit and as Me. Pundit dispense dispassionate punditry. Me as a person I have my own beliefs. I am a liberal, pro-women, pro-democracy, atheist, I also climate change denilaist, many things.
I may support Ruto but I don't deny he is corrupt thief. I just think he has more positive than negatives...compared to his competitor.
I voted Sonko but don't approve his thuggery.
Pundit will you swear on a sacred book that you never spoke of clearing anything and anybody standing in the way of Orutu in 2013 and 2017? We still remember your conversations with Omollo. You know even the internet forgets but Nipate never does.
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No Damascus moment here more like crocodile tears due to lost opportunity to loot. 'Looter inside'
Wow! You guys are unloading on poor Pundit. Talk about kicking a man while he is down.
People have forgotten about the shetani kubwa and are fixated on Ruto. I find that unbecoming. Uhuru is dismantling all norms by locking up elected representatives and you are still bleating about Ruto.
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No Damascus moment here more like crocodile tears due to lost opportunity to loot. 'Looter inside'
Wow! You guys are unloading on poor Pundit. Talk about kicking a man while he is down.
People have forgotten about the shetani kubwa and are fixated on Ruto. I find that unbecoming. Uhuru is dismantling all norms by locking up elected representatives and you are still bleating about Ruto.
But that's exactly the point. If Uhuru dismantles everything constitutional like he's doing, imagine Kenya if the DP inherits it. That is the main reason arrested senators does not bother most Kenyans. We've seen worse and they same senators were clapping. Moses Kuria is the poster boy of mad system cheerleaders. Raila is keen on a one-term Mandela like legacy so there is a chance he will do factory reset.
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Seems like Maraga has also given up. NSIS must have dug up some shit on him. He is waiting for retirement queitly. It is all downhill now -hopefully corona gets Treasury broke asap and sober up Uhuru a bit; otherwise the shithole we are headed into in next 1 year.
The 'toa moi' generation of civil society got coopted into the government and those who remained outside got filthy rich from NGO boom lasting 2003-2014 when Uhuruto dried the taps due to ICC. This group is a lost cause or tired/retired.
Only twitter/Facebook guerrilas are at it and they are doing well.
Kenyans are bothered that is why the police had to disperse crowds after Malala was released
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No Damascus moment here more like crocodile tears due to lost opportunity to loot. 'Looter inside'
Wow! You guys are unloading on poor Pundit. Talk about kicking a man while he is down.
People have forgotten about the shetani kubwa and are fixated on Ruto. I find that unbecoming. Uhuru is dismantling all norms by locking up elected representatives and you are still bleating about Ruto.
Yes Uhuru is 11th hour despot and the "evil society" [sic] couldn't care less.
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No Damascus moment here more like crocodile tears due to lost opportunity to loot. 'Looter inside'
Wow! You guys are unloading on poor Pundit. Talk about kicking a man while he is down.
People have forgotten about the shetani kubwa and are fixated on Ruto. I find that unbecoming. Uhuru is dismantling all norms by locking up elected representatives and you are still bleating about Ruto.
But that's exactly the point. If Uhuru dismantles everything constitutional like he's doing, imagine Kenya if the DP inherits it. That is the main reason arrested senators does not bother most Kenyans. We've seen worse and they same senators were clapping. Moses Kuria is the poster boy of mad system cheerleaders. Raila is keen on a one-term Mandela like legacy so there is a chance he will do factory reset.
I see it as strictly 2022 dogfight. Ruto has Kikuyu slipping through his fingers. Notice how loudly silent Ichung'wa and Kuria are on the all-important formula. Uhuru is retiring - think he is quietly handing over tribal reins to PK. Bloke been gracing all the Atwoli-Murathe conclaves in the small Babylon at Ildamat.