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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on June 06, 2020, 09:19:57 AM
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He is basically is everything.
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yes, you showed a bull heading for slaughter house the knife. Uhuru has accomplished power grab with no resistance. No shots fired. he has consolidated his position and now he can negotiate anyway he wants without consulting anyone. God forbid if Raila died today.
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The genius of it all is that he has done it with the acquiesce of the critical mass. Even Kaleos are not enraged to the point that they are going to the streets. This is very different as to when 2007 or 2017 elections were stolen, Kenyans spontaneously went to the streets. It has something to do with the fact that Ruto is not coming into this with clean hands and if he cannot get Kaleos to go to the streets, how does he expect kikuyus to bolt away from Ouru. Do you really think that Kikuyus will abandon Ouru for Ruto? Its like when it comes to Ruto, the tribal affinity to power that Gema has always been chastised about suddenly melts away.
He is basically is everything.
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Frustrated Maraga crying to Wanjohi. Maraga should just give a notice to resign so that we can have a Wanjohi sanctioned CJ.
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Kenyans need to fight back - he is going lame-duck. Power concedes nothing. We have depended on Raila and Kichwa mbaya too much to defend our democracy.
Frustrated Maraga crying to Wanjohi. Maraga should just give a notice to resign so that we can have a Wanjohi sanctioned CJ.
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Pundit, you cheered him on the time he ignored court orders and created laws that were against the constituition and even when he use unorthodox methods like having policen condone parliament buildings. Now it is payback time and what was for you yesterday is being used against you today.
Next time remember always to side with the law and not your political favourite of the moment.
Kenyans need to fight back - he is going lame-duck. Power concedes nothing. We have depended on Raila and Kichwa mbaya too much to defend our democracy.
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The only fight happening is online. Organied civil society is kaput.
Ruto had successfully vanquished the people he wants to fight for him. Kenyans think this is Ruto's battle and is too hard to convince them otherwise.
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Frustrated Maraga crying to Wanjohi. Maraga should just give a notice to resign so that we can have a Wanjohi sanctioned CJ.
His incompetence is amazing
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The only fight happening is online. Organied civil society is kaput.
Ruto had successfully vanquished the people he wants to fight for him. Kenyans think this is Ruto's battle and is too hard to convince them otherwise.
Unfortunately thats how it appears, i think Ruto over calculated and became impatient, Some people he vanquished would seriously help him now. But government wise he is done. Unless Kalenjins help him. But dont rule out Ruto 2 years is a big time in politics by 2021 we will be talking different things.
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The only fight happening is online. Organied civil society is kaput.
Ruto had successfully vanquished the people he wants to fight for him. Kenyans think this is Ruto's battle and is too hard to convince them otherwise.
Unfortunately thats how it appears, i think Ruto over calculated and became impatient, Some people he vanquished would seriously help him now. But government wise he is done. Unless Kalenjins help him. But dont rule out Ruto 2 years is a big time in politics by 2021 we will be talking different things.
Ruto has no appetite of sacrificing his new found wealth. He is done and it appears he is folding faster than even kalenjins expected. It is a wise thing to on a personal level. Ke politics is organized like a gang. When the gang orders for you head you know you days are numbered
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You're expecting Ruto to behave like Raila but he is very tactical and strategic. Uhuru is the one who is frustrated. He has to cajole, force, intimidate and name it to get anything done. Ruto is playing easy. He knows he need to avoid Wanjohi for another year - any direct confrontation with Wanjohi - Wanjohi is the beneficiary.
Ruto if you think is sleeping at home - you are mistaken - he is doing meetings every day - and doing lots of underground work.
Ruto has no appetite of sacrificing his new found wealth. He is done and it appears he is folding faster than even kalenjins expected. It is a wise thing to on a personal level. Ke politics is organized like a gang. When the gang orders for you head you know you days are numbered
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You're expecting Ruto to behave like Raila but he is very tactical and strategic. Uhuru is the one who is frustrated. He has to cajole, force, intimidate and name it to get anything done. Ruto is playing easy. He knows he need to avoid Wanjohi for another year - any direct confrontation with Wanjohi - Wanjohi is the beneficiary.
Ruto if you think is sleeping at home - you are mistaken - he is doing meetings every day - and doing lots of underground work.
Ruto has no appetite of sacrificing his new found wealth. He is done and it appears he is folding faster than even kalenjins expected. It is a wise thing to on a personal level. Ke politics is organized like a gang. When the gang orders for you head you know you days are numbered
Tactical my foot.
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Politics is about winning hearts and minds. Wanjohi aggression is very obvious. The last I hear after poisoning people in Kiambu - they want to import Mungiki to rift valley to spark a inter-tribal war between Kalenjin and Kikuyus - so hopefully they can find a footing back in politics.
They have tried everything - mau forest - name it - to provoke and to try to decouple GEMA from Ruto but it's not working.
I think next is to ban Ruto from ever stepping foot in Central - and start chasing him like Raila?
Uhuru determination is to win GEMA back - he knows whatever plans he has - cannot function unless he get back GEMA respect as Muthamaki - not a WANJOHI.
If this was Raila - Uhuru would have succeeded. Ruto decoupled Kalenjin from ODM very easily by exploiting Mau evictions. Most Kalenjin were stuck with Raila - including 5 ministers and several ass ministers - and majority of folks who had been bitten by ODM bug. Decoupling was not easy but Raila helped all the way.
Next referendum...Ruto has said he will accept whatever they proposes...so no chance for a contest :) or Yes or NO :)
Tactical my foot.
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What power grab? All I see is Ruto Tangatanga wishes that Raila should go back to custodian of democracy. Ruto and Kalenjin if they have a problem with new reality should do the hard work and not be usual freeloaders. Instead they will not even oppose BBI 8) Only way Raila would work with Ruto is if Ruto back him. He is not taking Tangatanga self- serving advice to squander his last chance before senility kicks in.
gout is right noone will lose sleep over the lynching of Mobutu. Kenyans know what is happening and don't care - because they are too tribalised and wizened to care for the shamelessly unprincipled. This Mobutu woes have nothing to do with them.
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Leading from behind...very sad. Ruto cannot fight back he has no muscle left to fight back. The so called Wanjohi can call them to state house just to insult them for kicks and they would do nada...but it's all strategy folks nothing to see here
Politics is about winning hearts and minds. Wanjohi aggression is very obvious. The last I hear after poisoning people in Kiambu - they want to import Mungiki to rift valley to spark a inter-tribal war between Kalenjin and Kikuyus - so hopefully they can find a footing back in politics.
They have tried everything - mau forest - name it - to provoke and to try to decouple GEMA from Ruto but it's not working.
I think next is to ban Ruto from ever stepping foot in Central - and start chasing him like Raila?
Uhuru determination is to win GEMA back - he knows whatever plans he has - cannot function unless he get back GEMA respect as Muthamaki - not a WANJOHI.
If this was Raila - Uhuru would have succeeded. Ruto decoupled Kalenjin from ODM very easily by exploiting Mau evictions. Most Kalenjin were stuck with Raila - including 5 ministers and several ass ministers - and majority of folks who had been bitten by ODM bug. Decoupling was not easy but Raila helped all the way.
Next referendum...Ruto has said he will accept whatever they proposes...so no chance for a contest :) or Yes or NO :)
Tactical my foot.
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You have to choose the fights to engage in careful. Ruto has refused to engage in small battles and focused on the big wars. His big war is with Raila for now..who is the main threat for 2022.
Wanjohi Kinyua Jameson wa Mashati (full names from facebook) is going to retire until he amends the constitution.
What power grab? All I see is Ruto Tangatanga wishes that Raila should go back to custodian of democracy. Ruto and Kalenjin if they have a problem with new reality should do the hard work and not be usual freeloaders. Instead they will not even oppose BBI 8) Only way Raila would work with Ruto is if Ruto back him. He is not taking Tangatanga self- serving advice to squander his last chance before senility kicks in.
gout is right noone will lose sleep over the lynching of Mobutu. Kenyans know what is happening and don't care - because they are too tribalised and wizened to care for the shamelessly unprincipled. This Mobutu woes have nothing to do with them.
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Moi did the same and it worked. There is really no point fighting someone who is racing against time to secure a legacy. Time will deal with Wanjohi. He has about exactly 700 days to retire.
Leading from behind...very sad. Ruto cannot fight back he has no muscle left to fight back. The so called Wanjohi can call them to state house just to insult them for kicks and they would do nada...but it's all strategy folks nothing to see here
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Moi didnt win..the constitution won and kenyatta death saved his arse. Without njonjo in the cabinet as Ag moi would have been killed by gema and someone else made president. Ruto doesnt even have acook ..he needs to kill wanjohi that hisconly path
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Kenyatta Snr had not term limit. Uhuru has about 700 days and about 300 days to become irrelevant. So Ruto doesn't have to do much except wait...and try stay alive. Mid next year nobody will care about Wanjohi - not even Kibichos who will be running to counties to launch campaign.
Moi didnt win..the constitution won and kenyatta death saved his arse. Without njonjo in the cabinet as Ag moi would have been killed by gema and someone else made president. Ruto doesnt even have acook ..he needs to kill wanjohi that hisconly path
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Kenyatta Snr had not term limit. Uhuru has about 700 days and about 300 days to become irrelevant. So Ruto doesn't have to do much except wait...and try stay alive. Mid next year nobody will care about Wanjohi - not even Kibichos who will be running to counties to launch campaign.
Moi didnt win..the constitution won and kenyatta death saved his arse. Without njonjo in the cabinet as Ag moi would have been killed by gema and someone else made president. Ruto doesnt even have acook ..he needs to kill wanjohi that hisconly path
Ruto only has to wait to go be in opposition if he makes it that far. Kalenjins will continue to lose big. You guys need to decentralize your politics and have more independent MPS. Looks like now every governor in south Rift valley is doing nothing just riding on Rutos shenanigans. You will suffer another 4 decades of being out of power. You are still drunk with power from Moi days
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You're projecting. GEMA you have no successor to Uhuru so much you are wishing we retain Wanjohi but frankly, he has a No legacy. The next mantle will have to pass to either Raila or Ruto. If GEMA tries to be smart - you'll get finished. This time you're cornered.
Ruto at 55 is just started - and most of the governors and leaders - are in 30s and early 40s. Kalenjin politics is very set. The likes of Murkomen is 41 yrs old.
Ruto only has to wait to go be in opposition if he makes it that far. Kalenjins will continue to lose big. You guys need to decentralize your politics and have more independent MPS. Looks like now every governor in south Rift valley is doing nothing just riding on Rutos shenanigans. You will suffer another 4 decades of being out of power. You are still drunk with power from Moi days
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You're projecting. GEMA you have no successor to Uhuru so much you are wishing we retain Wanjohi but frankly, he has a No legacy. The next mantle will have to pass to either Raila or Ruto. If GEMA tries to be smart - you'll get finished. This time you're cornered.
Ruto at 55 is just started - and most of the governors and leaders - are in 30s and early 40s. Kalenjin politics is very set. The likes of Murkomen is 41 yrs old.
Ruto only has to wait to go be in opposition if he makes it that far. Kalenjins will continue to lose big. You guys need to decentralize your politics and have more independent MPS. Looks like now every governor in south Rift valley is doing nothing just riding on Rutos shenanigans. You will suffer another 4 decades of being out of power. You are still drunk with power from Moi days
What have those young governors delivered? Yes ruto has 25 years to moderate his politics. He will be a good candiate for 2042
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I told you - Gema elite are btw a rock and a hard place. You have gone full circle and there is no one else to lie except a joker like Gideon Moi. Kalonzo, Madvd, name them, have been lied to. Raila will screw you in all holes (moi style that had you running to Deleware). That is more guaranteed. If you ditch Ruto - Ruto will help Raila to do that. If you stay with Ruto - you'll be in good place - compared to Raila - but because you're mistreating Ruto - Ruto has to return back the favor.
The first amendment if Raila becomes PORK will be done 3 months later to do away with BBI for being unworkable. You cannot change the rule of the games when someone else is about to sit on it.
What have those young governors delivered? Yes ruto has 25 years to moderate his politics. He will be a good candiate for 2042
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Gema elite may import Obama now that efforts by Raila cannot salvage Corona devastation being put at the feet of jayden.
Their failure to understand history makes them naively not accept that jayden was always and has proved to be a disaster.
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Who is Jayden - seen it on facebook. Wanjohi other name for weedsmoker. Obama would be someone like Equity James Mwangi - that could work magic.
Gema elite may import Obama now that efforts by Raila cannot salvage Corona devastation being put at the feet of jayden.
Their failure to understand history makes them naively not accept that jayden was always and has proved to be a disaster.
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Jayden is the new moniker, from the new generation of pampered kids. I had thought the younger kids online are disinterested but seems corona joblessness and idleness is opening their political naive specks.
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Jayden Wanjohi Wa Mashati Kinyua Jameson wa Kinyatta. Over to your Robina.
Jayden is the new moniker, from the new generation of pampered kids. I had thought the younger kids online are disinterested but seems corona joblessness and idleness is opening their political naive specks.
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And i agree with you. Mashirt Meta Meta will do GEMA a mess (a clusterfuck!) that will last for a century. And Raila is happy to help...
I told you - Gema elite are btw a rock and a hard place. You have gone full circle and there is no one else to lie except a joker like Gideon Moi. Kalonzo, Madvd, name them, have been lied to. Raila will screw you in all holes (moi style that had you running to Deleware). That is more guaranteed. If you ditch Ruto - Ruto will help Raila to do that. If you stay with Ruto - you'll be in good place - compared to Raila - but because you're mistreating Ruto - Ruto has to return back the favor.
The first amendment if Raila becomes PORK will be done 3 months later to do away with BBI for being unworkable. You cannot change the rule of the games when someone else is about to sit on it.
What have those young governors delivered? Yes ruto has 25 years to moderate his politics. He will be a good candiate for 2042
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Am with you. It is said that when gods want to destroy somebody they first make them mad. Am afraid that's what Uhuru Konyagi and his close henchmen are doing. Unfortuantely through Uhuru they have control of military, police, intelligence and all state machineries to cause mischief. And am really saddened that Uhuru/Raila combo are leading Kenya into serious dangerous territory. And they think it's a joke or something. Very insular characters..
And yes, soon or later something BIG will blow up to give justifications they seek...
Uhuru actually has this mentality that HE HAS DONE A LOT "FOR HIS PEOPLE" AND THEREFORE THEY SHOULD NOT QUESTION OR CHALLENGE HIM. We need to find out what drugs Raila added into Konyagi usual mix.
Politics is about winning hearts and minds. Wanjohi aggression is very obvious. The last I hear after poisoning people in Kiambu - they want to import Mungiki to rift valley to spark a inter-tribal war between Kalenjin and Kikuyus - so hopefully they can find a footing back in politics.
They have tried everything - mau forest - name it - to provoke and to try to decouple GEMA from Ruto but it's not working.
I think next is to ban Ruto from ever stepping foot in Central - and start chasing him like Raila?
Uhuru determination is to win GEMA back - he knows whatever plans he has - cannot function unless he get back GEMA respect as Muthamaki - not a WANJOHI.
If this was Raila - Uhuru would have succeeded. Ruto decoupled Kalenjin from ODM very easily by exploiting Mau evictions. Most Kalenjin were stuck with Raila - including 5 ministers and several ass ministers - and majority of folks who had been bitten by ODM bug. Decoupling was not easy but Raila helped all the way.
Next referendum...Ruto has said he will accept whatever they proposes...so no chance for a contest :) or Yes or NO :)
Tactical my foot.
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If ruto is unable to take on someone as incompetent as Uhuru. How is expected even to run a national campaign against someone as exprienced as Raila. Ruto was never serious and if he was serious he suffer grand delusions like Trump. The only reason why Ruto may have thought he had central votes on his hands is because the GEMA elite had given him a lot of goodwill. He started shitting on the GEMA elite and they had to go fish uhuru out his drinking den and force him to reform whitehouse staffing , bring in performers to cabinet. Uhuru kept on delegating until Kinyua told him he had to work and stop embarrassing everyone. Now Uhuru is on a leash by GEMA. Ruto is a caged man. he has no where to escape to. Even idiots like Cate Waruguru have abandoned ruto.
in 2007 we all thought GEMA elite could not rig and get away with it. They did and got away with it
2013 every thought there could be no other kikuyu candidate that would become president. Uhuru topped it up and I remember seeing a sweaty Raila surrendering in a very sorry speech given on saturday afternoo
2017 - Uhuru did the same and still took power
even in 2022 Gema can decide that there is no one that gurantee their tribal nation interests and just put another stooge there and make it the president
You won't do nothing but the usual 3 months protests and then you go back to kiss the ring
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If ruto is unable to take on someone as incompetent as Uhuru. How is expected even to run a national campaign against someone as exprienced as Raila. Ruto was never serious and if he was serious he suffer grand delusions like Trump. The only reason why Ruto may have thought he had central votes on his hands is because the GEMA elite had given him a lot of goodwill. He started shitting on the GEMA elite and they had to go fish uhuru out his drinking den and force him to reform whitehouse staffing , bring in performers to cabinet. Uhuru kept on delegating until Kinyua told him he had to work and stop embarrassing everyone. Now Uhuru is on a leash by GEMA. Ruto is a caged man. he has no where to escape to. Even idiots like Cate Waruguru have abandoned ruto.
in 2007 we all thought GEMA elite could not rig and get away with it. They did and got away with it
2013 every thought there could be no other kikuyu candidate that would become president. Uhuru topped it up and I remember seeing a sweaty Raila surrendering in a very sorry speech given on saturday afternoo
2017 - Uhuru did the same and still took power
even in 2022 Gema can decide that there is no one that gurantee their tribal nation interests and just put another stooge there and make it the president
You won't do nothing but the usual 3 months protests and then you go back to kiss the ring
Not if the warriors are pissed off, no power will be able to contain them.
Kenya will break up in that case, rift will be independent country you will be left with rump state without access to sea or hinterland.
2022 will make or break kenya.
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Raila is still a monster and Ruto is now a political monster. If you combine those two - even today - Wanjohi will be impeached the same afternoon. GEMA elites have gone 360 and cannot find an alliance - save maybe for hapless Gusii. It's over and time to hand over power.
If GEMA elite try to be smart - they will end up in worse than 2007 and nobody will save them this time round.
If ruto is unable to take on someone as incompetent as Uhuru. How is expected even to run a national campaign against someone as exprienced as Raila. Ruto was never serious and if he was serious he suffer grand delusions like Trump. The only reason why Ruto may have thought he had central votes on his hands is because the GEMA elite had given him a lot of goodwill. He started shitting on the GEMA elite and they had to go fish uhuru out his drinking den and force him to reform whitehouse staffing , bring in performers to cabinet. Uhuru kept on delegating until Kinyua told him he had to work and stop embarrassing everyone. Now Uhuru is on a leash by GEMA. Ruto is a caged man. he has no where to escape to. Even idiots like Cate Waruguru have abandoned ruto.
in 2007 we all thought GEMA elite could not rig and get away with it. They did and got away with it
2013 every thought there could be no other kikuyu candidate that would become president. Uhuru topped it up and I remember seeing a sweaty Raila surrendering in a very sorry speech given on saturday afternoo
2017 - Uhuru did the same and still took power
even in 2022 Gema can decide that there is no one that gurantee their tribal nation interests and just put another stooge there and make it the president
You won't do nothing but the usual 3 months protests and then you go back to kiss the ring
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Usual wishful thinking and theories. GEMA know both Raila and Ruto would rather another GEMA than the other win. So it a joke that Ruto will endorse Raila - haha - that is suicidal since it jeopardizes his political future. GEMA insularity is a big strength that is why they have a 3rd heading 4th CEO.
Options remain
1. BBI 2 - Exec PM (Uhuru) + ceremonial PORK (Raila)
2. BBI 1 - PORK (Raila) + VP (Gideon) + PM (Uhuru stooge)
3. status quo - PORK (Raila) + VP (Uhuru stooge)
vs Ruto + Mdvd + Karua... if Mdvd doesn't run to Baba bossom crying soon.
It Ruto and Kalenjin who are checkmated not GEMA. The stars are lined up for Raila so desperate Ruto and Pundit you are welcome to join in... for mkia promisory note. You can be official opposition or nondescript promisory note. Raila is not stupid to take your self- serving advice. Scorned Ruto and his RV savages are the most dangerous PORK prospect to GEMA.
Of course you can scream on about Raila vengeance or axe... as GEMA ignore your nonsense to back Raila. Or "Ruto has the ground" - as the rats flee. It's on TV you can google it. Ohoo Ruto is so trustworthy - this delusion goes against gravity - there is no trustworthy politician and only interests and numbers matter.
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That is Gema wishes to hear from jayden - that he is selling himself or raila or jesus.
Usual wishful thinking and theories. GEMA know both Raila and Ruto would rather another GEMA than the other win. So it a joke that Ruto will endorse Raila - haha - that is suicidal since it jeopardizes his political future. GEMA insularity is a big strength that is why they have a 3rd heading 4th CEO.
Options remain
1. BBI 2 - Exec PM (Uhuru) + ceremonial PORK (Raila)
2. BBI 1 - PORK (Raila) + VP (Gideon) + PM (Uhuru stooge)
3. status quo - PORK (Raila) + VP (Uhuru stooge)
vs Ruto + Mdvd + Karua... if Mdvd doesn't run to Baba bossom crying soon.
It Ruto and Kalenjin who are checkmated not GEMA. The stars are lined up for Raila so desperate Ruto and Pundit you are welcome to join in... for mkia promisory note. You can be official opposition or nondescript promisory note. Raila is not stupid to take your self- serving advice. Scorned Ruto and his RV savages are the most dangerous PORK prospect to GEMA.
Of course you can scream on about Raila vengeance or axe... as GEMA ignore your nonsense to back Raila. Or "Ruto has the ground" - as the rats flee. It's on TV you can google it. Ohoo Ruto is so trustworthy - this delusion goes against gravity - there is no trustworthy politician and only interests and numbers matter.
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In the game of Tribal domination I would hedge my bets on GEMA. If you want democracy then Raila may be the man but if it is politics of Tribalism you got no chance against Gema. They only lost when death caught them unaware and even than that it required a ROGUE GEMA AG to execute. Kales better be ready to unleash them arrows and cause a lot of damage to RV which doesnt matter to the greater country. After your tantrums we will still get you back to the fold and have you vote for GEMA in 2027