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Title: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Kadudu on April 28, 2020, 10:48:59 AM
KenyanPlato, this is how a headline from you would be on the same topic:

Top Maragoli scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-04-27-top-kenyan-scientist-unveils-arv-drug-to-be-used-once-a-year/
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: RV Pundit on April 28, 2020, 11:32:50 AM
Great. I guess you're also a mara.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on April 28, 2020, 11:57:21 AM
Great. I guess you're also a mara.
Have always thought of Kadudu as Kisii, she  is certainly mogusii
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Kadudu on April 28, 2020, 12:53:56 PM
A Mogusii with the cut like the Kameru. :D :D :D

Have always thought of Kadudu as Kisii, she  is certainly mogusii
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: gout on April 28, 2020, 01:45:21 PM
Threat to big pharma earning billion dollars from ARVs. Will fade away probably after the patent is bought off unless WHO nods it to access PEPFAR funds.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on April 28, 2020, 01:57:26 PM
A Mogusii with the cut like the Kameru. :D :D :D

Have always thought of Kadudu as Kisii, she  is certainly mogusii
You are a good mogusii Kadudu just make sure you get married and settle down don't be a spinster like veritas dont forget one day you will come to Kenya
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: KenyanPlato on April 28, 2020, 02:03:38 PM
Maragolis are okay in my books. My uncle is a maragoli. A docile happy go lucky drunkard.  My aunt is the domineering type so she had to get the most docile being she could find.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on April 28, 2020, 02:57:20 PM
KenyanPlato, this is how a headline from you would be on the same topic:

Top Maragoli scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-04-27-top-kenyan-scientist-unveils-arv-drug-to-be-used-once-a-year/ (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-04-27-top-kenyan-scientist-unveils-arv-drug-to-be-used-once-a-year/)

Ideally, it should be a top *human* scientist.  Nationalities being irrelevant to individual abilities.  But humans being humans, we are still cavemen underneath the suits :).
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Kadudu on April 28, 2020, 03:25:33 PM
He is a human scientist. I only mentioned KenyanPlato as he once brought in a topic here with the title "Kikuyu engineer ......".
Very pathetic of KenyanPlato and he did not even bother to answer my provocation here.
I bet such a scientist had he remained in Kenya he would still be hanging out near a university and begging some politicians for connections in order to be promoted.

Ideally, it should be a top *human* scientist.  Nationalities being irrelevant to individual abilities.  But humans being humans, we are still cavemen underneath the suits :).
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on April 28, 2020, 03:43:01 PM
He is a human scientist. I only mentioned KenyanPlato as he once brought in a topic here with the title "Kikuyu engineer ......".
Very pathetic of KenyanPlato and he did not even bother to answer my provocation here.
I bet such a scientist had he remained in Kenya he would still be hanging out near a university and begging some politicians for connections in order to be promoted.

Ideally, it should be a top *human* scientist.  Nationalities being irrelevant to individual abilities.  But humans being humans, we are still cavemen underneath the suits :) .

Looks like he answered it with the happy go lucky Maragoli trope.  That’s just how he sees the world and it can be as pointless as arguing with a racist IMO trying to convince him otherwise.

How this guy would do in Kenya is interesting.  He might end up being some Arthur Obel type, selling concoctions to gullible types or as you say a moonlighting professor.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Georgesoros on April 29, 2020, 02:17:31 PM
It'll be great if it is effective as envisaged.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: KenyanPlato on April 29, 2020, 03:54:17 PM
This would be a game changer drug. AIDS medication is expensive and has a lot of side effects. This will put many Nigerian Racketeering using Pharmacies out of business
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: KenyanPlato on April 29, 2020, 04:08:48 PM
He is a human scientist. I only mentioned KenyanPlato as he once brought in a topic here with the title "Kikuyu engineer ......".
Very pathetic of KenyanPlato and he did not even bother to answer my provocation here.
I bet such a scientist had he remained in Kenya he would still be hanging out near a university and begging some politicians for connections in order to be promoted.

Ideally, it should be a top *human* scientist.  Nationalities being irrelevant to individual abilities.  But humans being humans, we are still cavemen underneath the suits :).

Where is this Maragoli from? May be he was born in the settlements. My dear uncle life was ended prematurely by marauding Kalenjin cattle raiders. He was coming from a bar and on his way home he saw Kales raiders driving stolen cattle. he confronted them, they clubbed him on the head and that caused a stroke. He lived 4 more years bed ridden.
When he died my brother went to the funeral and he was surprised at the whole day marathon speeches about Malaamu. The day before the funeral my aunt had to sit on the front of the house with the coffin and locals paid respect.

One thing I have to say is that Maragolis have abundance of chicken. When I attended my cousin's wedding back in 1985 we ate chicken and rice everyday. Every neighbor that visited dropped a rooster. Since my aunt was the local cereals broker she had a lot of visitors.

I am not sure but I think my cousin married a Bukusu. So they had two weddings. One was traditional wedding done a week before the real wedding. We went to webuye for the wedding. It was a colorful traditional ceremony. However, the was a local madman that scared me to death. The idiot had a club with spikes on it and was leading all dancing processions. I avoided that guy at all costs, Anyway the highlight of the trip to Webuye was me seeing a bridge that was in our Geography book. It was just those things that you see on a textbook and then when you see them in real life it is a big deal

The only thing is that my cousins would drink a tree top bottle of Nubian Gin every night. I bet you they smoked too but I never got to see them smoking.

The place was flat with no roads and somehow had areas that appeared to be semi-arid. Water was fetched from a seasonal river and stored in a Pot in the kitchen.

Good childhood memories.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: RV Pundit on April 29, 2020, 04:17:51 PM
Good memories. Baluhya are very good people. They are like Ugandans....very warm and friendly.  I like how Bukusu use to call people Omwami :). kinda like Uganda Ssebo. As for Kalenjin raiders - you don't talk to them. I use to visit my grandmother near border with Gusii. If you dare as much as say Hi to them - they will beat you senseless and go back -
He is a human scientist. I only mentioned KenyanPlato as he once brought in a topic here with the title "Kikuyu engineer ......".
Very pathetic of KenyanPlato and he did not even bother to answer my provocation here.
I bet such a scientist had he remained in Kenya he would still be hanging out near a university and begging some politicians for connections in order to be promoted.

Ideally, it should be a top *human* scientist.  Nationalities being irrelevant to individual abilities.  But humans being humans, we are still cavemen underneath the suits :).

Where is this Maragoli from? May be he was born in the settlements. My dear uncle life was ended prematurely by marauding Kalenjin cattle raiders. He was coming from a bar and on his way home he saw Kales raiders driving stolen cattle. he confronted them, they clubbed him on the head and that caused a stroke. He lived 4 more years bed ridden.
When he died my brother went to the funeral and he was surprised at the whole day marathon speeches about Malaamu. The day before the funeral my aunt had to sit on the front of the house with the coffin and locals paid respect.

One thing I have to say is that Maragolis have abundance of chicken. When I attended my cousin's wedding back in 1985 we ate chicken and rice everyday. Every neighbor that visited dropped a rooster. Since my aunt was the local cereals broker she had a lot of visitors.

I am not sure but I think my cousin married a Bukusu. So they had two weddings. One was traditional wedding done a week before the real wedding. We went to webuye for the wedding. It was a colorful traditional ceremony. However, the was a local madman that scared me to death. The idiot had a club with spikes on it and was leading all dancing processions. I avoided that guy at all costs, Anyway the highlight of the trip to Webuye was me seeing a bridge that was in our Geography book. It was just those things that you see on a textbook and then when you see them in real life it is a big deal

The only thing is that my cousins would drink a tree top bottle of Nubian Gin every night. I bet you they smoked too but I never got to see them smoking.

The place was flat with no roads and somehow had areas that appeared to be semi-arid. Water was fetched from a seasonal river and stored in a Pot in the kitchen.

Good childhood memories.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: KenyanPlato on April 29, 2020, 04:38:41 PM
They are good people. The other cultural aspect is how their women can just leave the kids to a man and move on. My cousin pulled this dick move and never contacted anyone back. She been in the states for over 22 years and never made any contact with her family or her daughter. I had a cousin who had "inherited" 3 kids that he husband was stuck  with after the wife fled
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on April 29, 2020, 07:38:52 PM
They are good people. The other cultural aspect is how their women can just leave the kids to a man and move on. My cousin pulled this dick move and never contacted anyone back. She been in the states for over 22 years and never made any contact with her family or her daughter. I had a cousin who had "inherited" 3 kids that he husband was stuck  with after the wife fled
You are a oldie if you attended a cousin wedding in 1985 :)  baluhya culture is very different from ours, i remember last year we had a funeral for my shosh and one of my inlaw a baluhya was very surprised by the funeral as it was just quiet, she thought we are not giving shosh a proper burial because uko kwao they would be slaughtering bulls and chickens on a daily basis and cooking for whoever just turned up at the home to offer condolences
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on April 29, 2020, 07:47:57 PM
They are good people. The other cultural aspect is how their women can just leave the kids to a man and move on. My cousin pulled this dick move and never contacted anyone back. She been in the states for over 22 years and never made any contact with her family or her daughter. I had a cousin who had "inherited" 3 kids that he husband was stuck  with after the wife fled
You are a oldie if you attended a cousin wedding in 1985 :)  baluhya culture is very different from ours, i remember last year we had a funeral for my shosh and one of my inlaw a baluhya was very surprised by the funeral as it was just quiet, she thought we are not giving shosh a proper burial because uko kwao they would be slaughtering bulls and chickens on a daily basis and cooking for whoever just turned up at the home to offer condolences

If my understanding is correct, the notion of a funeral itself was not even a thing to the traditional Meru, and quite a few Kenyan tribes(Kalenjin, Maasai for instance).  It amazes me how little Kenyans, even those married to each other, know about their respective cultures.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on April 29, 2020, 08:34:27 PM
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If my understanding is correct, the notion of a funeral itself was not even a thing to the traditional Meru, and quite a few Kenyan tribes(Kalenjin, Maasai for instance).  It amazes me how little Kenyans, even those married to each other, know about their respective cultures.
Typical funeral program for a Mumeru
0700-0900hrs grave dug
0900-1000hrs body of deceased collected from mortuary
1000-1100hrs viewing of body and introductions
1100-1300hrs eulogies and speeches
1300-1400hrs sermon by priest
1400-1500hrs burying the deceased
1500- you can leave or have food na sodas for the attendants  people disperse after finishing
By 1600hrs no one in deceased compound people go back to their business
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on April 29, 2020, 08:42:46 PM
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If my understanding is correct, the notion of a funeral itself was not even a thing to the traditional Meru, and quite a few Kenyan tribes(Kalenjin, Maasai for instance).  It amazes me how little Kenyans, even those married to each other, know about their respective cultures.
Typical funeral program for a Mumeru
0700-0900hrs grave dug
0900-1000hrs body of deceased collected from mortuary
1000-1100hrs viewing of body and introductions
1100-1300hrs eulogies and speeches
1300-1400hrs sermon by priest
1400-1500hrs burying the deceased
1500- you can leave or have food na sodas for the attendants  people disperse after finishing
By 1600hrs no one in deceased compound people go back to their business

That makes sense.  It's just like a British funeral.  The people they got the notion from.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on April 29, 2020, 08:56:36 PM
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That makes sense.  It's just like a British funeral.  The people they got the notion from.
I agree. Further more Merus lack the attachment and emotions that i see other kabilas have, to be honest compared to other kabilas meru dont fear death to them the most important thing is for you to be buried 6 feet under and a prayer be said, have seen funerals just carried out by one man as in burying his dead father alone and people/villagers just viewing from the fence, when my shosh died my dad dint show an inch of emotion, i remember one time my uncle died and we went to the mortuary to dress him and the shoes uncle had could not fit in the coffin properly my dad exclaimed wow am lucky i have a new pair of shoes, so he took the shoes from dead uncle in the mortuary and today he still wears those shoes with a smile, again in meru when one dies their is no hullabaloo the question that will only be asked is who killed or what killed him
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on April 29, 2020, 09:04:06 PM
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That makes sense.  It's just like a British funeral.  The people they got the notion from.
I agree. Further more Merus lack the attachment and emotions that i see other kabilas have, to be honest compared to other kabilas meru dont fear death to them the most important thing is for you to be buried 6 feet under and a prayer be said, have seen funerals just carried out by one man as in burying his dead father alone and people/villagers just viewing from the fence, when my shosh died my dad dint show an inch of emotion, i remember one time my uncle died and we went to the mortuary to dress him and the shoes uncle had could not fit in the coffin properly my dad exclaimed wow am lucky i have a new pair of shoes, so he took the shoes from dead uncle in the mortuary and today he still wears those shoes with a smile, again in meru when one dies their is no hullabaloo the question that will only be asked is who killed or what killed him

Interesting.  I am imaging witchcraft was also not a thing then.  Or was it?   In some tribes, how you dispose off a corpse can mean the difference between going mad and staying sane.  Witchcraft seems to be an outgrowth of that.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on April 29, 2020, 09:15:16 PM

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Interesting.  I am imaging witchcraft was also not a thing then.  Or was it?   In some tribes, how you dispose off a corpse can mean the difference between going mad and staying sane.  Witchcraft seems to be an outgrowth of that.
Traditionally in Meru culture if you died simply you did be thrown in the forest period nothing else, when mzungu came and gave burials a meaning things changed, but what dint change is the mental bit mental bit where no much emotion or attachments are shown. Witchcraft and burials in meru are non existence the way in western kenya you take them, actually in meru culture if you knew someone had bewitched you killing them was considered the only way to break that urogi, and once you dead the only thing that matters is for you to be buried 6ft and a prayer be said period.
Title: Re: Top Kenyan scientist unveils ARV drug to be used once a year
Post by: KenyanPlato on April 30, 2020, 01:10:07 AM
In 1983 Kikuyu main churches put a reign on a growing tradition then of over spending on funerals and feasts. It was agreed that the mourning period will be 3 days if possible and that the dead will be buried while wrapped in a shroud and in coffin. Flowers were limited to 3 flowers. I remember back then rich people graves would have over 30 flowers lining up or piled on top of each other. Now Kikuyus in the cities are bringing back the feasting nonsense and most entrepreneurs have made a business of catering for these funerals.The budgets are now skyrocketing. My cousin who died while being operated in someone living room to save money funeral was the last straw. I donated money and gave it directly to the widow after the funeral. The budget that was being proposed by his cousins and friends was just a waste of money

talking to my mum the other day she told me the church has again reigned funerals
Now there will be no speeches
Just a 3 hour ceremony from funeral home to Grave