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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on February 18, 2020, 04:00:38 PM
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Jews are about 15 million worldwide but they punch way above their weight. Meanwhile 1.2 billion Africans are everyone ass wipe and doormat. Africans and Arabs are weak races. No testicular fortitude to conquer whites.
Are Jews regarded as white?
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I don't agree. I believe all nationalities and races are unique and have something special to offer. How many Jews play basketball? How many have won marathons? How many have painted masterpieces or composed symphonies?
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I don't agree. I believe all nationalities and races are unique and have something special to offer. How many Jews play basketball? How many have won marathons? How many have painted masterpieces or composed symphonies?
What good does dribling a basketball do to humanity and art I believe evefy race can do art. 1.2 Africans are at the bottom of himan totem pole. They are the unwashed and unambitious race
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Jews have been under siege for centuries so it is a case of mass adrenaline. Wadi Valley is orders of magnitude productive over the Bay Area. Folks literally die at work in Tel Aviv... only the Chinaman is nearly catching up in efficiency.
Mwafrika is lazy and mollycoddled by geography - no winter, no hurricanes, etc. The world is too interconnected to let Ebola speed along the evolution. So paternalism plays a role too.
Ps - I can't write freely for fear of being lynched.
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Jews have been under siege for centuries so it is a case of mass adrenaline. Wadi Valley is orders of magnitude productive over the Bay Area. Folks literally die at work in Tel Aviv... only the Chinaman is nearly catching up in efficiency.
Mwafrika is lazy and mollycoddled by geography - no winter, no hurricanes, etc. The world is too interconnected to let Ebola speed along the evolution. So paternalism plays a role too.
Ps - I can't write freely for fear of being lynched.
*Quietly puts away pitchfork*
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I don't agree. I believe all nationalities and races are unique and have something special to offer. How many Jews play basketball? How many have won marathons? How many have painted masterpieces or composed symphonies?
What good does dribling a basketball do to humanity and art I believe evefy race can do art. 1.2 Africans are at the bottom of himan totem pole. They are the unwashed and unambitious race
Africans have succeeded against odds. Genocidal odds. They have long ways to go no doubt. But they are hanging in under conditions many other strains of humanity have been wiped out.
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I don't agree. I believe all nationalities and races are unique and have something special to offer. How many Jews play basketball? How many have won marathons? How many have painted masterpieces or composed symphonies?
AGREED..
Just because am not succeeding in minting money does not mean am not successful.
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I don't agree. I believe all nationalities and races are unique and have something special to offer. How many Jews play basketball? How many have won marathons? How many have painted masterpieces or composed symphonies?
AGREED..
Just because am not succeeding in minting money does not mean am not successful.
How are you successful if you are not minting money? Please remind us.
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Jews have been under siege for centuries so it is a case of mass adrenaline. Wadi Valley is orders of magnitude productive over the Bay Area. Folks literally die at work in Tel Aviv... only the Chinaman is nearly catching up in efficiency.
Mwafrika is lazy and mollycoddled by geography - no winter, no hurricanes, etc. The world is too interconnected to let Ebola speed along the evolution. So paternalism plays a role too.
Ps - I can't write freely for fear of being lynched.
Hehe ati genocide is what has prevented the melanin man from succeeding
Bit mask mwaafricak is useless.. Some groups like nomads need civilization coz they are devolving
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Jews have been under siege for centuries so it is a case of mass adrenaline. Wadi Valley is orders of magnitude productive over the Bay Area. Folks literally die at work in Tel Aviv... only the Chinaman is nearly catching up in efficiency.
Mwafrika is lazy and mollycoddled by geography - no winter, no hurricanes, etc. The world is too interconnected to let Ebola speed along the evolution. So paternalism plays a role too.
Ps - I can't write freely for fear of being lynched.
Hehe ati genocide is what has prevented the melanin man from succeeding
Bit mask mwaafricak is useless.. Some groups like nomads need civilization coz they are devolving
I didn't say that. But if we ignore history, then yes the mwafrika is useless. If we don't, then we realize the mwafrika is more formidable than generally thought. Bazungu wiped out natives all over the place, some with more advanced civilizations than those in Sub-Saharan Africa. But, for better or worse, they were sent packing by the mwafrika in Africa, his crude methods notwithstanding.
Granted the African is behind. He is not even completely in control of his backyard and generally at the mercy of nature. But because he has a massive chunk on the planet he can call his own, shit-hole or not, all that can change. The African is capable, and that is why it can be frustrating watching him shoot himself in the foot.
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Mzungu did more to civilize and develop Africans than destroy them
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The biggest beggar in the world is the African race. Never seen people born with affinity for free things
https://www.mwakilishi.com/article/kenya-news/2020-02-18/kenya-to-receive-funding-from-the-us-to-fight-locust-menace?cid=h
There is jaluo tonight impregnating his third wife while waiting for Soros charity to mesa him money ..same thing with okuyus they love free mbeca
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I don't agree. I believe all nationalities and races are unique and have something special to offer. How many Jews play basketball? How many have won marathons? How many have painted masterpieces or composed symphonies?
AGREED..
Just because am not succeeding in minting money does not mean am not successful.
How are you successful if you are not minting money? Please remind us.
Robina, Robina, You have become too westernized. Maybe growing up in Westlands shielded you from realities of this world. Frankly, if i woke up in Kenya gardening each morning, it will be my dream world. Stress free is riches to me. In Pundit's neighborhood, you're very rich if you own several cows and goats. In Asia, taking care of family and transitioning them to a successful "occupation" is considered very rich. Move to another location and you'll find that Amazon Indians are rich if they live in a forest, where we can hunt throughout our lives. Move to Mid-East and having several wives and camels is considered very rich. Richness does not mean minting money. At most, only 30% of the world population consider minting money to be rich.
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parperken
How peaceful are those kids in Ukambani that have to be dewormed by missionaries each school year? How peaceful are those kids living in Pipeline and have to wade through sewer everyday. Kenya is a shithole for the poor. However creatures of privilege like you romanticize that hell
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2017/03/mass-deworming-school-age-children-starts-19-counties/
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parperken
How peaceful are those kids in Ukambani that have to be dewormed by missionaries each school year? How peaceful are those kids living in Pipeline and have to wade through sewer everyday. Kenya is a shithole for the poor. However creatures of privilege like you romanticize that hell
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2017/03/mass-deworming-school-age-children-starts-19-counties/ (https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2017/03/mass-deworming-school-age-children-starts-19-counties/)
Some of those kids are happy though. Even blissful. Guys out here are shooting up schools and shipping their parents off to nursing homes. How do you explain that?
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parperken
How peaceful are those kids in Ukambani that have to be dewormed by missionaries each school year? How peaceful are those kids living in Pipeline and have to wade through sewer everyday. Kenya is a shithole for the poor. However creatures of privilege like you romanticize that hell
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2017/03/mass-deworming-school-age-children-starts-19-counties/
Am not talking about the underprivileged rather those grown ups who are happy to live wherever they are. Do you know over 60% of regular Americans only hear about stock market? These people are contented with their moonshine. I’ll think you’re a well traveled guy and seen the “other America “
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parperken
How peaceful are those kids in Ukambani that have to be dewormed by missionaries each school year? How peaceful are those kids living in Pipeline and have to wade through sewer everyday. Kenya is a shithole for the poor. However creatures of privilege like you romanticize that hell
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2017/03/mass-deworming-school-age-children-starts-19-counties/
Am not talking about the underprivileged rather those grown ups who are happy to live wherever they are. Do you know over 60% of regular Americans only hear about stock market? These people are contented with their moonshine. I’ll think you’re a well traveled guy and seen the “other America “
I have been to 32 of the 50 states but even poorest Americans have a better standard of living than average kwiinyan
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Njamba has a point here. No matter how defensive we get there is a problem with black race especially mwafrika nyewele ngumu. Other race are occupied with space race while we can barely feed ourselves in agrarian economy. There is a big leadership problem and lack of personal responsibility.
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Btw...I am finding myself working with a lot of Jews in Tech...from places like Ukraine and Russia. Consulting firms like EPAM are mostly Jews...Brilliant...and pretty gels. And lots of Africans. We are making a difference. Not long ago, I needed a backup resources on something I couldn't handle in Silicon Valley. I called the ofc...and while I thought the resource would be Indian...the resource they send was...I kid you not...a young talent from Kiambu and Strathmore...very professional. Kenyanplato...we are present here and now. In my area...I know the difference we are making. If I were to look at areas like healthcare and education I know I will be impressed. In places like Mass where Education is the mainstay of the Economy, Africans are in control. Places like CDC in ATL has a good size of Africans in key areas.
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I have been to 32 of the 50 states but even poorest Americans have a better standard of living than average kwiinyan
Plato is a provocateur but ain't this the truth! Economics are real and it is escapist to claim Africans are happy in squalor. They are not and will die to flee to civilization. Go to America or die trying.
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Btw...I am finding myself working with a lot of Jews in Tech...from places like Ukraine and Russia. Consulting firms like EPAM are mostly Jews...Brilliant...and pretty gels. And lots of Africans. We are making a difference. Not long ago, I needed a backup resources on something I couldn't handle in Silicon Valley. I called the ofc...and while I thought the resource would be Indian...the resource they send was...I kid you not...a young talent from Kiambu and Strathmore...very professional. Kenyanplato...we are present here and now. In my area...I know the difference we are making. If I were to look at areas like healthcare and education I know I will be impressed. In places like Mass where Education is the mainstay of the Economy, Africans are in control. Places like CDC in ATL has a good size of Africans in key areas.
This may well be the case and slowly things will turn around in Africa. I always look at say Nairobi - a 10m population with the GDP of New Hampshire with 700k folks.
About Jews if you have been to Tel Aviv and Haifa - Wadi Valley - you get amazed at the stuff going on there. Crazy culture and work ethic. People say the US favors Israel but when you have the entire roster of Big Tech lined up there something else is at play.
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Robina: That's under the belt to RVP...and I will explain. Sometimes Robina, we are not valued by currency. Got it!. Example....There was a conversation here or RCB or the other mutation...and that is what translated to T of the numbers. PapaF, RVP, Tami, and few others...I think RVP owned the spreadsheet...he pulled it out, we all talked about it....he explained his reasoning and the math. And before we knew it...it was tyranny of the numbers.and just like that...there was opinion polls, Editorials, etc. I credit RVP and PapaF...I know what excel spreadsheet did.
I don't agree. I believe all nationalities and races are unique and have something special to offer. How many Jews play basketball? How many have won marathons? How many have painted masterpieces or composed symphonies?
AGREED..
Just because am not succeeding in minting money does not mean am not successful.
How are you successful if you are not minting money? Please remind us.
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Wa Njambi wtf?? MOAS is pseudo-science and the only thing RVP knows. He is a theorist witout application. Still milks his briefcase company to buy "real assets" - land in Mavoko and Mau. The classic Mwafrika.
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Wa Njambi wtf?? MOAS is pseudo-science and the only thing RVP knows. He is a theorist witout application. Still milks his briefcase company to buy "real assets" - land in Mavoko and Mau. The classic Mwafrika.
Robina is Tingisa or AOF alter ego. She been around for a longtime that she know the king of sewer politics pandit lives in eastern cementry called mavoko..he went from mavoko time to advocate Gulu Uganda where he was measuring the effects of kony on poverty..he is now is Swiss Alps washing George Soros knickers
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Wa Njambi wtf?? MOAS is pseudo-science and the only thing RVP knows. He is a theorist witout application. Still milks his briefcase company to buy "real assets" - land in Mavoko and Mau. The classic Mwafrika.
Robina is Tingisa or AOF alter ego. She been around for a longtime that she know the king of sewer politics pandit lives in eastern cementry called mavoko..he went from mavoko time to advocate Gulu Uganda where he was measuring the effects of kony on poverty..he is now is Swiss Alps washing George Soros knickers
One doesn't need to read the past blogs to figure Pundit is a fool. How does a techie bother to buy land in Kapsengere? Or truck business. That's waste of capital and talent - he should be rolling out Kimetrica all over Africa. Instead he sold it to build apartments - "real assets".
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Rvp is villager.. Without gumboots and pooping cows he is nobody in his community
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lol...no comments
Wa Njambi wtf?? MOAS is pseudo-science and the only thing RVP knows. He is a theorist witout application. Still milks his briefcase company to buy "real assets" - land in Mavoko and Mau. The classic Mwafrika.
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We're all beautiful people and should cherish our marble blue home. 8)
Poverty is a product of politics. Let's not forget Obama is half Kenyan. Even myself with Korean genes, the smartest people I've interacted with have NOT been Koreans or Jews or Anglo-Saxens or South Africans but Kenyans. Right here in this forum. If I had to pick a race that would save the world from gloom and doom that would be Kenyans.
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Lets keep it at the Jew. It the same reason Nandi/Keiyos are successfully in marathon running. Economist call it "economies of scale/consolidations/". Physicist call it "Momentum". Biologist would call it a "thriving ecosystem". Chemist describe the catalyst required to get reaction. Pilot would call it taking off and then enjoying the cruising. In short you'll find all sort of communities or people that excel in something i.e black american in basketaball - because they've build a ecosystem that is bar none (at the moment) for such success. The jew has build an international network of business, financing, academia and the works that thrives. You cannot beat it because you need all the pieces to work together...to beat them require a lot of wiring and tightening all the loose bolts...until you have everything in place. In short - don't give up - work on ticking all the boxes - and take off will happen and everything will cruise at auto-pilot.
Africans should avoid self-defeatist attitude that keep them down. You're down - the only way is literally up. You have to do something and tick the many boxes - if we go by development indicators - there are thousands - and you have to improve nearly all of them - to get such an ecosystem. You cannot do one thing - and then get frustrated because you didn't get there.
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Pundit how many boxes are remaining to be ticked? you said you don't see a demographic dividend in the offing?
Again how come the Chinese ticked the boxes so fast? is our snail pace not tail- chasing?
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Boxes to get where...we have few boxes to move from lower middle income country to middle income (4,000 usd per capita). We are now at 2,000usd - a huge jump from when Moi left us at I thin less than 500usd per capita. Now 4-6k is around where South Africa or Botswana are - then we have to jump to 7-8K - around to 12K (lower level to become developed country) and of course we would still be miles away from Western World of 40-50K. But it doable. This won't happen in 10-20 yrs - but we are talking about 40-50yrs for kenya to become a developed world if it sustain it's current path. Target 10-15yrs to become South Africa - another 15-20 years to get out of the middle class trap and become developed. It's doable. It can be done.Chinese is an old civilization - and began it's current modern journey in 1978...so don't think it been fast or easy.
In practical terms - we need to focus on basics - roads, railways, water, sewage, ports - and tick all those boxes like we are nearly ticking electricity access.The hardware is normally the hardest - and once fixed - you really deal with maintenance. You don't rebuild a railway network for example every decade..it last 200yrs.
But we tend to get into interesting software copy-cat debate from first world.
If I was president of kenya I will focus on two things
1) Basic Infrastructure - bridge the infrastructure deficit. Tarmac all roads. Build commute rail for cities.Provide water & sewage to everyone. Provide electricity to everyone. The add ports, airports, railways, irrigation dams, etc - nice to have - but focus on everyone everywhere having reliable electricity, clean piped water, tarmac road and then leave them alone. We are about achieving universal electricity access..lots of kudos..but our tarmac/paved roads & clean piped water stats are very shameful.
2) High Quality education for young ones. The greatest multiplier or denominator.
Those are the two investments with proven huge long term payoff that gov/public sector can engage in - I'd leave the rest of the boxes for private sector and individuals to tick off.
Pundit how many boxes are remaining to be ticked? you said you don't see a demographic dividend in the offing?
Again how come the Chinese ticked the boxes so fast? is our snail pace not tail- chasing?
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So it is that rough beaten path without any leapfrog? Once we discover how long it has taken to get the dismal infra now... we get into western softwares because we want optimality. So my mention of China or the Tigers is in that context. Why they did turn around or gallop ahead so fast to scare the superpower? Because otherwise I see a dynamism or moving target - that pioneers didn't face - such that we can never catch up without leapfrogs or some mineral windfall.
Say, I question the viability of manufacturing as the middle income enabler ala the West, China and the Tigers. Because there are structural ingredients that are part of the boxes-to-be-ticked required to reap from manufacturing. Which follows that infra like rail may not be so beneficial. I mean your infra premise is pegged on the assumption of manufacturing taking root from it. Right?
What do you think? Am saying if it was simply set up infra, educate folks and voilà... we would have fewer 3rd world countries on the globe. At least that is my thinking when I deride yours and Ruto's borrow & build.
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Infrastructure is not for manufacturing.Its for quality of life.Gov is not in business to grow the economy or make money.Its owe it citizen the public service like paved roads, electricity, clean piped water and etc.How you use the road or electricity is upto you.Naturally stuff like manufacturing will follow.We have huge infrastructure deficit that should be priority no 1.It won't pay off immediately so people who take a short term view of development will not appreciate a railway like they called old one lunatic express but 100 yrs later towns have grown along it including Nairobi that began as railway camp.That infrastructure is easy to fix is nonsense..SGR has hit us very hard..we abandoned it at a maize farm.That is 5b dollars investment.We have done 8-12B investment in electricity sector and we are just around 3000mws...to get South Africa level..we need ten times that.
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I don't get you clearly. Infra is not about manufacturing but quality of life... is there a distinction? Manufacturing is about the economy which is about quality of life. Then if you were PORK you would close the infra gap as a big tick for growth - lower to upper middle - but it is not government work to grow the economy?
There is no line between "quality of life" and "development" they are synonymous.
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But I quite agree about laying tarmack and steel. Many countries had a windfall to finance their infra. Not so sure about borrowing the capital for it.
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I see gov role as providing a service first and everything second.Gov doesn't have to do anything about manufacturing but it owes everyone clean piped water, electricity, paved roads, sewage line, telcom& broadband (largely sorted) in addition to security, education and health.Its owes you an airport, a port, railway and other such secondary infrastructure.Now once any gov has delivered on that, private sector and individual are supposed to start or boost manufacturing, farming, gaming software and whatever they fancy on top of the hardware.You should be able build a rental house in mavoko because gov has provided all that...you can start factory in kpasengere because you have electricity, water and roads..you can build your fancy mall in kare because all that is sorted...
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But I quite agree about laying tarmack and steel. Many countries had a windfall to finance their infra. Not so sure about borrowing the capital for it.
it's actually not very expensive to build basic infrastructure.Our infrastructure deficit has been studied and quantified.It comes to maybe 80-100b dollars which is doable if you spend 10n annually on it...but we spread ourselves too thin trying to do so many things.Gov has nearly 200-300 parastal n agencies ,some of whom, their core function has nothing to do with gov. Privatize and sell some of them.For example why is Kenya gov still owning shares in commercials bank when central bank can do all their banking Sell KCB..you get a billion dollars.Sell Safaricom you get 4B.Sell likes of Kenya national oil.You can easily get 10-20B dollars from deepen privisation.... enough to kickstart an infrastructure deficit fund and be done with piped water, electricity, paved roads , commuter rails, cargo rails and be left with easy software issues and annual maintenance bill.But now we are giving 1b to miraa, 3 b to sugar, 5b to coffee..which frankly is stupidity.
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:D :D
He is having his usual manic periods.
Plato is bi polar
Take your meds bwana.
and stop dubbing in white supremacist nonsense.
We don't need bazungus, we never asked for their help, they came to us.
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Robina check our 2019 census data for boxes we are ticking and those we aren't...huge progress is being made but still a long way.For example the real electricity access to main electricity is actually 50% not 75% as gov would like to tell us...so we need to connect nearly half the country very fast.
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Robina check our 2019 census data for boxes we are ticking and those we aren't...huge progress is being made but still a long way.For example the real electricity access to main electricity is actually 50% not 75% as gov would like to tell us...so we need to connect nearly half the country very fast.
Pundit, solar power has a coverage of 21%
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:D :D
He is having his usual manic periods.
Plato is bi polar
Take your meds bwana.
and stop dubbing in white supremacist nonsense.
We don't need bazungus, we never asked for their help, they came to us.
I am not bipolar. I am just intellectually curious. I think on the fly.
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Pundit
How many household still have no toilets in Kenya? Open defecation is still an issue. How many kids have stunted growth due to lack of proper nutrition? How many cities have reliable supplly of water?
How has sgr and tarmac solved these basic problems?
I am all ears
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Pundit
How many household still have no toilets in Kenya? Open defecation is still an issue. How many kids have stunted growth due to lack of proper nutrition? How many cities have reliable supplly of water?
How has sgr and tarmac solved these basic problems?
I am all ears
Gov is not supposed to build toilets for you but sewer lines in urban centers.Once we understand the role of all of us in development we can stop blaming political class for everything.Gov job is to pave your road to your gate and you pave it from the gate to your garage.Your responsibility to plan your family so you get kids you can feed or get none at all cannot be abrogated to the gov.Gov is doing a bad job in tarmac at maybe 15-20% of major roads tarmacked..very poorly in clean piped water at 30-40% and connecting everyone to main electricity at 50%.
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Pundit
How many household still have no toilets in Kenya? Open defecation is still an issue. How many kids have stunted growth due to lack of proper nutrition? How many cities have reliable supplly of water?
How has sgr and tarmac solved these basic problems?
I am all ears
Gov is not supposed to build toilets for you but sewer lines in urban centers.Once we understand the role of all of us in development we can stop blaming political class for everything.Gov job is to pave your road to your gate and you pave it from the gate to your garage.Your responsibility to plan your family so you get kids you can feed or get none at all cannot be abrogated to the gov.Gov is doing a bad job in tarmac at maybe 15-20% of major roads tarmacked..very poorly in clean piped water at 30-40% and connecting everyone to main electricity at 50%.
I am talking about Africans and in micro talking of Kenyans. Why are we still in bottom of the totem pole? Stop conflating issues. We are here addressing why Jews in their small numbers have better HDI than any other group of people. While baafrika is still dying of hunger like a beast
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Jews are not special.They just got it right possibly as endangered minority squeezed in btw Christian's and Muslims.They are suddenly internationally United and connected..that helps.It just like I told you Kalenjin dominance in althetics.. ecosystem has been built that make them thrive..
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Jews are not special.They just got it right possibly as endangered minority squeezed in btw Christian's and Muslims.They are suddenly internationally United and connected..that helps.It just like I told you Kalenjin dominance in althetics.. ecosystem has been built that make them thrive..
Why haven't Africans created this ecosystems? A billion people still poor and diseased