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Title: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: RV Pundit on July 29, 2019, 03:45:07 PM
Its more a war against Ruto
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Ouko-says-Ruaraka-land-payment-irregular/1056-5214714-n6o9ex/index.html
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Nefertiti on July 29, 2019, 06:16:33 PM
Not news, it common knowledge Ruto is the Enemy of the State.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: RV Pundit on July 29, 2019, 11:17:14 PM
Enemy of state...which state?
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Kichwa on July 29, 2019, 11:19:49 PM
I see you are still in denial.

Enemy of state...which state?
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Nefertiti on July 30, 2019, 11:16:54 AM
Don't interrupt the snoring please ... it gets really sweet about 5am :D

I see you are still in denial.

Enemy of state...which state?
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: sitting bull on July 30, 2019, 11:27:36 AM
Its more a war against Ruto
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Ouko-says-Ruaraka-land-payment-irregular/1056-5214714-n6o9ex/index.html
What happed to M.A.D? Or is URP waiting for DEFCON 1 to fight back. Day by day it seems Wsr is being snookered left and right. If he doesn't fight back he may just lose the gains he's made in centro.

Kama mbaya....mbaya. Both sides looted. MV jubilee should go down "all hands"

Whatever happened to duale? I hear the taxman sent him a tax invoice of 2B? Amemeza ulimi. We only hear murkomen and sudi trying to salvage the situation. The king in waiting suddenly looks vulnerable.

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Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Kadudu on July 30, 2019, 12:48:52 PM
What happed to M.A.D? Or is URP waiting for DEFCON 1 to fight back. Day by day it seems Wsr is being snookered left and right. If he doesn't fight back he may just lose the gains he's made in centro.

Kama mbaya....mbaya. Both sides looted. MV jubilee should go down "all hands"

Whatever happened to duale? I hear the taxman sent him a tax invoice of 2B? Amemeza ulimi. We only hear murkomen and sudi trying to salvage the situation. The king in waiting suddenly looks vulnerable.

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Lesson to be learnt here, never fight the government machinery when having dirt in your hands. People like Waititu and Duale have benefitted financially through looting public coffers. How do you bite the hand that is feeding you?
The current government might not have the popular majority on its side, but it has the machinery to go for its critics especially those among its corrupt ranks. Ruto may have looted enough to launch a formible campaign in 2022, but he will have to be assured of winning otherwise he will be ruined financially and hence also politically.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Nefertiti on July 30, 2019, 01:40:40 PM
What happed to M.A.D? Or is URP waiting for DEFCON 1 to fight back. Day by day it seems Wsr is being snookered left and right. If he doesn't fight back he may just lose the gains he's made in centro.

Kama mbaya....mbaya. Both sides looted. MV jubilee should go down "all hands"

Whatever happened to duale? I hear the taxman sent him a tax invoice of 2B? Amemeza ulimi. We only hear murkomen and sudi trying to salvage the situation. The king in waiting suddenly looks vulnerable.

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Lesson to be learnt here, never fight the government machinery when having dirt in your hands. People like Waititu and Duale have benefitted financially through looting public coffers. How do you bite the hand that is feeding you?
The current government might not have the popular majority on its side, but it has the machinery to go for its critics especially those among its corrupt ranks. Ruto may have looted enough to launch a formible campaign in 2022, but he will have to be assured of winning otherwise he will be ruined financially and hence also politically.

Yup. Ruto's corrupt disciples will simply go silent. Except the inconsequential greenhorns - Ichung'wa, Nyoro, Waruguru, etc - who hope to loot in 2023. The Duales are too selfish to put their necks on the line.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: RV Pundit on July 30, 2019, 01:43:09 PM
Fake war on graft indeed.Most corruption happen within Internal security.If Uhuru seriously want to leave a legacy he need to nail Matiangi for Ruaraka.If he wants to fight Ruto he will lose very badly
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: RV Pundit on July 30, 2019, 01:45:11 PM
What happed to M.A.D? Or is URP waiting for DEFCON 1 to fight back. Day by day it seems Wsr is being snookered left and right. If he doesn't fight back he may just lose the gains he's made in centro.

Kama mbaya....mbaya. Both sides looted. MV jubilee should go down "all hands"

Whatever happened to duale? I hear the taxman sent him a tax invoice of 2B? Amemeza ulimi. We only hear murkomen and sudi trying to salvage the situation. The king in waiting suddenly looks vulnerable.

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Lesson to be learnt here, never fight the government machinery when having dirt in your hands. People like Waititu and Duale have benefitted financially through looting public coffers. How do you bite the hand that is feeding you?
The current government might not have the popular majority on its side, but it has the machinery to go for its critics especially those among its corrupt ranks. Ruto may have looted enough to launch a formible campaign in 2022, but he will have to be assured of winning otherwise he will be ruined financially and hence also politically.

Yup. Ruto's corrupt disciples will simply go silent. Except the inconsequential greenhorns - Ichung'wa, Nyoro, Waruguru, etc - who hope to loot in 2023. The Duales are too selfish to put their necks on the line.
How does silencing your critics become support?Will you intimidate people to vote BBI and like Raila.Such kind of politics have zero chances of success.It failed on Rails,Ruto,Joho and even Kalonzo with foundation harassment.This new Kenya... nobody can take us to Moi era of 1980s
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Kadudu on July 30, 2019, 03:42:06 PM
How does silencing your critics become support?Will you intimidate people to vote BBI and like Raila.Such kind of politics have zero chances of success.It failed on Rails,Ruto,Joho and even Kalonzo with foundation harassment.This new Kenya... nobody can take us to Moi era of 1980s

Pundit, face reality and you have mentioned it several times that Kenya is a tribalistic entity.
So new Kenya does not exist. If this had been the case Uhuru and Ruto would have never been on the ballot in 2013. That buried all hopes of democracy in Kenya for the next two decades. We are a cosmetic demoracy. That means on the surface we a democratic, but inside we are ruled by an elite that controls the governing system.
Even Ruto's number one supporter in Western Kenya said one does not need to win the presidential election to be declared the winner. This will haunt your man in the next years to come.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Kichwa on July 30, 2019, 04:32:50 PM
Pundit's transformation from Machiavellian to an activist is amazing. This is a dude who used to  lecture us here not too long ago about Kenya being a politically tribal country and how "real politics" is played.  I remember his lectures about how  "power is grabbed" not handed in a silver platter.   Now that we have agreed with him but the tables have been turned, he has now crying about "fairness".  Pundit used to say that ODM has shrunk to a luo party. I wonder what he thinks about Jubilee now. Nobody talks about  jubilee anymore.  I have not heard Ouru utter the word jubilee since handshake. The  defenders of WSR has shrunk even among Kalenjin MP's to Murkomen and Sudi who are some of the most incoherent people in Kenyan politics. RV pundit is a smart dude and I believe he gets it but he has to save his face.

How does silencing your critics become support?Will you intimidate people to vote BBI and like Raila.Such kind of politics have zero chances of success.It failed on Rails,Ruto,Joho and even Kalonzo with foundation harassment.This new Kenya... nobody can take us to Moi era of 1980s

Pundit, face reality and you have mentioned it several times that Kenya is a tribalistic entity.
So new Kenya does not exist. If this had been the case Uhuru and Ruto would have never been on the ballot in 2013. That buried all hopes of democracy in Kenya for the next two decades. We are a cosmetic demoracy. That means on the surface we a democratic, but inside we are ruled by an elite that controls the governing system.
Even Ruto's number one supporter in Western Kenya said one does not need to win the presidential election to be declared the winner. This will haunt your man in the next years to come.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Nefertiti on July 30, 2019, 05:01:54 PM
Everybody with a 50 iQ know Uhuru has been brutalizing Ruto for over a year now and he's powerless to fight back. Except for a few Sudis and Nyoros Ruto is loathe to move openly against Uhuru cause of Gema. It's a selective purge but nobody outside Kalenjin really cares about Ruto - Kenya has escaped his evil grip by a whisker.


Fake war on graft indeed.Most corruption happen within Internal security.If Uhuru seriously want to leave a legacy he need to nail Matiangi for Ruaraka.If he wants to fight Ruto he will lose very badly
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Kadudu on July 30, 2019, 05:20:02 PM
Fake war on graft indeed.Most corruption happen within Internal security.If Uhuru seriously want to leave a legacy he need to nail Matiangi for Ruaraka.If he wants to fight Ruto he will lose very badly

Here I agree with you 100%. No need to go to Internal Security to look for Uhuru backed corruption cartels. Transport is even worse. No wonder the clueless CS Macharia is in that docket. It is controlled to 100% by Kikuyus and this is where the money is.
Another is MoH. If you are not a Kikuyu, do not apply for a tender in that ministry. In less than 6 years the old suppliers of MoH have been driven out and new kids are now on the block. All come from one corner of our nation.
There is no war against corruption. It is just intimidation of political opponents. Otherwise uhuru would have started with SGR in which his finger prints are all over.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Kichwa on July 30, 2019, 05:36:34 PM
There is no way you can fight corruption comprehensively otherwise you are talking revolution or a military coup in which old politicians are overthrown and new people come in.  A military coup has its own disadvantages and we are not at a point where we can all agree on a peaceful peoples revolution.  The war on corruption must therefore be fought selectively.

Fake war on graft indeed.Most corruption happen within Internal security.If Uhuru seriously want to leave a legacy he need to nail Matiangi for Ruaraka.If he wants to fight Ruto he will lose very badly

Here I agree with you 100%. No need to go to Internal Security to look for Uhuru backed corruption cartels. Transport is even worse. No wonder the clueless CS Macharia is in that docket. It is controlled to 100% by Kikuyus and this is where the money is.
Another is MoH. If you are not a Kikuyu, do not apply for a tender in that ministry. In less than 6 years the old suppliers of MoH have been driven out and new kids are now on the block. All come from one corner of our nation.
There is no war against corruption. It is just intimidation of political opponents. Otherwise uhuru would have started with SGR in which his finger prints are all over.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Nefertiti on July 30, 2019, 05:37:21 PM
Pundit agrees UDM is intact - which is URP but once again held ransom by Babu via Tuju. It's a Trojan 2 and UDM 2 complete with Tuju as ole Kamwaro. Nothing new under the sun. :D


Pundit's transformation from Machiavellian to an activist is amazing. This is a dude who used to  lecture us here not too long ago about Kenya being a politically tribal country and how "real politics" is played.  I remember his lectures about how  "power is grabbed" not handed in a silver platter.   Now that we have agreed with him but the tables have been turned, he has now crying about "fairness".  Pundit used to say that ODM has shrunk to a luo party. I wonder what he thinks about Jubilee now. Nobody talks about  jubilee anymore.  I have not heard Ouru utter the word jubilee since handshake. The  defenders of WSR has shrunk even among Kalenjin MP's to Murkomen and Sudi who are some of the most incoherent people in Kenyan politics. RV pundit is a smart dude and I believe he gets it but he has to save his face.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: RV Pundit on July 30, 2019, 06:27:45 PM
Uhuru is going home.His legacy is important. Those telling Uhuru that he can use BBI to extend his term are lying to him.If he attempts to amend the constitution then Punguza Mzigo will sail thro and BBi will drink water.He will end in great shame of soiling the hardwon peace in Rift Valley and would have put his people in great danger.Ruto has a million warrior in RV alone waiting for the signal.This won't be easy...like Rails betrayal.Ruto himself is very tough political operator.Why wish Uhuru such a formidable opponent when he has cancer to worry about.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Nefertiti on July 30, 2019, 07:16:40 PM
Pundit doesn't Ruto have HIV according to that very cancer grapevine. He should retire with Uhuru. Nobody really cares about these crooks. We all want a better country and the anti-graft, fewer MPs and devolution clauses in Punguza Mzigo are irresistible. BBI needs to crown it with parliamentary and it's gameshot.

About beheading innocent Gema or Gusii - that would be a golden shower for Babu as all RV diaspora tribes file behind him automatically.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: RV Pundit on July 30, 2019, 07:48:19 PM
After Raila wins - then he will start his own beheading. That is corner you want to force gema into. In Jubilee they are respected partners - and will be entitled to 50% and DPORK. In Raila corner - ohoo boy - that will be finally handing Raila the revenge sword. Both Gema and RV will suffer Raila's full wrath.
Pundit doesn't Ruto have HIV according to that very cancer grapevine. He should retire with Uhuru. Nobody really cares about these crooks. We all want a better country and the anti-graft, fewer MPs and devolution clauses in Punguza Mzigo are irresistible. BBI needs to crown it with parliamentary and it's gameshot.

About beheading innocent Gema or Gusii - that would be a golden shower for Babu as all RV diaspora tribes file behind him automatically.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Nefertiti on July 30, 2019, 09:41:36 PM
Anybody can see imaginary scarecrows. Let's fix anti-graft, devolution and MPs headcount maneno first with PMI or BBI. I don't care too much which hyena land the job after that cause they all got pros n cons. Gema are not scared of Babu any more than Ruto. The latter is more scary actually by far. Most "beheadings" in Kenya have been carried out by Kalenjin (82, 92, 97, 07) and by Mungiki 07 8) Luo merely throw stones and bully everyone.


After Raila wins - then he will start his own beheading. That is corner you want to force gema into. In Jubilee they are respected partners - and will be entitled to 50% and DPORK. In Raila corner - ohoo boy - that will be finally handing Raila the revenge sword. Both Gema and RV will suffer Raila's full wrath.
Pundit doesn't Ruto have HIV according to that very cancer grapevine. He should retire with Uhuru. Nobody really cares about these crooks. We all want a better country and the anti-graft, fewer MPs and devolution clauses in Punguza Mzigo are irresistible. BBI needs to crown it with parliamentary and it's gameshot.

About beheading innocent Gema or Gusii - that would be a golden shower for Babu as all RV diaspora tribes file behind him automatically.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: sitting bull on July 31, 2019, 08:19:24 AM
After Raila wins - then he will start his own beheading. That is corner you want to force gema into. In Jubilee they are respected partners - and will be entitled to 50% and DPORK. In Raila corner - ohoo boy - that will be finally handing Raila the revenge sword. Both Gema and RV will suffer Raila's full wrath.
Pundit doesn't Ruto have HIV according to that very cancer grapevine. He should retire with Uhuru. Nobody really cares about these crooks. We all want a better country and the anti-graft, fewer MPs and devolution clauses in Punguza Mzigo are irresistible. BBI needs to crown it with parliamentary and it's gameshot.

About beheading innocent Gema or Gusii - that would be a golden shower for Babu as all RV diaspora tribes file behind him automatically.
Pundit allow me to give you some free advice.... dont get over emotional with politics or politicians for that matter. These guys are not sworn enemies as you pupport. Who would have imagined Babu and Uhuru working together afew years ago? (Kimundu kigoroki, mchawi, mganga and mlevi na bangi na pombe kila asubuhi )

As mandago your fellow kinsman says he stoped being too attatched to matters politics or else he would have got high blood pressure, because they fought the perceived common enemy together only for them to find the said enemy in their bedroom.

I wouldn't  be suprised if one day in the near future Wsr and Babu join forces again, and i see that coming to pass. If uhuru betrays Wsr just be ready for any possible political merger. All we pray for is good governance, accountability and peace. Forget about the 1m strong worrior army you talk of, waiting for a signal. That is cheap talk. You dont know war. Don't wish it on your doorstep.

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Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2019, 09:00:26 AM
I am dispassionate pundit who says as it is. I am not sure why you get the impression that this is my personal opinion. This is my punditry. I do not approve anything that would happen...but I can tell you a fallout in Jubilee...will take RV back to days of arrows and machettes. I can also tell you for free if Raila get power - he will get his revenge.
Pundit allow me to give you some free advice.... dont get over emotional with politics or politicians for that matter. These guys are not sworn enemies as you pupport. Who would have imagined Babu and Uhuru working together afew years ago? (Kimundu kigoroki, mchawi, mganga and mlevi na bangi na pombe kila asubuhi )

As mandago your fellow kinsman says he stoped being too attatched to matters politics or else he would have got high blood pressure, because they fought the perceived common enemy together only for them to find the said enemy in their bedroom.

I wouldn't  be suprised if one day in the near future Wsr and Babu join forces again, and i see that coming to pass. If uhuru betrays Wsr just be ready for any possible political merger. All we pray for is good governance, accountability and peace. Forget about the 1m strong worrior army you talk of, waiting for a signal. That is cheap talk. You dont know war. Don't wish it on your doorstep.

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Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Kadudu on July 31, 2019, 09:57:32 AM
Pundit allow me to give you some free advice.... dont get over emotional with politics or politicians for that matter. These guys are not sworn enemies as you pupport. Who would have imagined Babu and Uhuru working together afew years ago? (Kimundu kigoroki, mchawi, mganga and mlevi na bangi na pombe kila asubuhi )

As mandago your fellow kinsman says he stoped being too attatched to matters politics or else he would have got high blood pressure, because they fought the perceived common enemy together only for them to find the said enemy in their bedroom.

I wouldn't  be suprised if one day in the near future Wsr and Babu join forces again, and i see that coming to pass. If uhuru betrays Wsr just be ready for any possible political merger. All we pray for is good governance, accountability and peace. Forget about the 1m strong worrior army you talk of, waiting for a signal. That is cheap talk. You dont know war. Don't wish it on your doorstep.

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Strong points. Pundit talks of warriors and he is a only a PC warrior. Those young men will be used and later discarded by the political class and their hangerson like Pundit. He will not even suffer a scratch from the skirmishes.
When did Pundit loose his cool to become so emotional for WSR?
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2019, 10:04:46 AM
Where I have advocated for warriors to attack anybody? ever? . In 2007 I ran, hide and tried all means to avoid being conscripted by ODM hooligans & rv warriors. The first time we ran so bad with my brothers - I jumped fences - and nearly died of exhaustion at river - we just turned a corner and next there were like 200 thugs armed with all sort of weapons - and we knew they would force us to match 20kms to demonstrate.Next few days they were going house to house. We were then only family still hosting Gusii. I had to hide with our Gusii workers under the bed.My father a prominent PNU supporter was receiving threatening calls and his rental business that housed gusii was ransacked . Then I decided to drive to Nairobi - that journey is still fresh in my memory - as soon as I got to Londian - the horror of what had happened - became real - and by time I was Nakuru - there were romours kikuyus were attacking people near Limuru. Never been so scared. Then I reached Nairobi - only to be told Mungiki had marked Kalenjin houses and would attack anytime.I will be among the victims of PEV because I know if RV attack GEMA; they will most likely attack me in Mavoko. Last time we survived by a whisker. But trust me if gema and rv fallout become true; such re-ocurrence of bloody tribal clashes is more than guaranteed. I know how mwafrika operates. I am just analyzing mwafrika here.

If Ruto-Uhuru fallout become real - you'll not find me in Kenya after election.

Strong points. Pundit talks of warriors and he is a only a PC warrior. Those young men will be used and later discarded by the political class and their hangerson like Pundit. He will not even suffer a scratch from the skirmishes.
When did Pundit loose his cool to become so emotional for WSR?
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: Nefertiti on July 31, 2019, 01:24:09 PM
We conclusively debunked the myth of a dispassionate pundit with a horse in the race. Upto now denies there is a Trojan in play. Blinkers and dispassionate punditry are polar opposites. Your opinion is not dispassionate nor objective. You're as biased as all the bloggers here.

I am dispassionate pundit who says as it is. I am not sure why you get the impression that this is my personal opinion. This is my punditry. I do not approve anything that would happen...but I can tell you a fallout in Jubilee...will take RV back to days of arrows and machettes. I can also tell you for free if Raila get power - he will get his revenge.
Title: Re: Until Matiangi is jailed for Ruaraka - war against graft is fake
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2019, 02:09:22 PM
Trojan horse cannot be so naked. Where is the trojan. Just because you disagree with my punditry doesn't make it less factual. The record of your punditry speak for itself. Very very poor.
We conclusively debunked the myth of a dispassionate pundit with a horse in the race. Upto now denies there is a Trojan in play. Blinkers and dispassionate punditry are polar opposites. Your opinion is not dispassionate nor objective. You're as biased as all the bloggers here.