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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: GeeMail on August 06, 2018, 06:42:20 PM
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Seemingly an endless slide into oblivion. Salaries late, creditors unpaid, suppliers crying, pensioners unpaid etc etc... Taxes are going up, inflation unabated, commodities becoming unaffordable (gas prices up, charcoal impossible to get, timber is a dream, KPLC squeezing customers to their last coin). Corruption is rife. Cities choking in garbage. Services like roads and hospitals hard to get. You have to bribe to get the simplest things. Ordinary people are choking in debt. What's the big 4 agenda if simple things can't be fixed?
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This is Kenya, the devils chessboard...all I hear is 5.7 or 6.5 growth but am like where the hell is this growth all I see is suffering around me. Good numbers of Kenyans who had relocated home are leaving/looking for greener pasture somewhere outside Kenya. Property market has pretty much collapsed since last year only very few brokers have moved units...looks like mlevi has maxed out gov.ke credit card and I hear big payments are due this year...they better start looking for another syndicate/shylock loan to keep this boat afloat for a few months...
On other news Abraaj group is kaput/bankrupt, bouncing checks, leaving ruins in Dubai I wonder what this means for the business they had invested in .ke i.e java, hospitality and medical business plus brookeside
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It's a hot mess. When is the oil coming online?
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No need to worry brotha!
Uhuru is headed for the US this end month.
Pioneer non-stop flight bwn KE and US!
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All hail the King!
How did that Free Secondary Education starting January 2018 go?
Nurses grumbling about something they were promised in 2005?
Never mind, that the OP (office of the Presidency) always exceeds its budget allocation but money from our taxes is always found for them. :(
No need to worry brotha!
Uhuru is headed for the US this end month.
Pioneer non-stop flight bwn KE and US!
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Ask the Turkana warriors. They have blocked the transporting tankers now second month.
It's a hot mess. When is the oil coming online?
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Kadudu i don't get how Turkana civilians are able to hold GoK hostage. With a friendly governor, Oil CS, MPs - unless there is sabotage.
Ask the Turkana warriors. They have blocked the transporting tankers now second month.
It's a hot mess. When is the oil coming online?
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Those residents have been incited by their "friendly" leaders.
Just read here:
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Trucking-of-oil-yet-to-resume-as-residents-disown-MoU/1056-4693194-fe6lywz/index.html (https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Trucking-of-oil-yet-to-resume-as-residents-disown-MoU/1056-4693194-fe6lywz/index.html)
Kadudu i don't get how Turkana civilians are able to hold GoK hostage. With a friendly governor, Oil CS, MPs - unless there is sabotage.
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People need to Google Lucas Lundin he is in the same class with Dan Getler Israel billionaire looting Congo....The whole play here was to siphon south Sudan oil and ship it through kenya but Bashir nipped it in the bud with the recent peace deal in south Sudan.
It's a hot mess. When is the oil coming online?
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patel what are you saying? is the standoff staged? It smells like a rat - a bunch of Turkanas blocking oil tankers for months against GoK machinery :o :o
People need to Google Lucas Lundin he is in the same class with Dan Getler Israel billionaire looting Congo....The whole play here was to siphon south Sudan oil and ship it through kenya but Bashir nipped it in the bud with the recent peace deal in south Sudan. It's a hot mess. When is the oil coming online?
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This has Uhuru-Ruto war all over it... where's Mr RV 411 Pundit when we need him? I promise to go soft on Ruto :)
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People need to Google Lucas Lundin he is in the same class with Dan Getler Israel billionaire looting Congo....The whole play here was to siphon south Sudan oil and ship it through kenya but Bashir nipped it in the bud with the recent peace deal in south Sudan. It's a hot mess. When is the oil coming online?
This Getler and similar types bleeding Katanga dry for a pittance to Kinshasa elites is indeed quite something. If Kenya is to go that route, they might as well just forget about drilling oil.
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patel what are you saying? is the standoff staged? It smells like a rat - a bunch of Turkanas blocking oil tankers for months against GoK machinery :o :o
People need to Google Lucas Lundin he is in the same class with Dan Getler Israel billionaire looting Congo....The whole play here was to siphon south Sudan oil and ship it through kenya but Bashir nipped it in the bud with the recent peace deal in south Sudan. It's a hot mess. When is the oil coming online?
Sabotage becomes easy(relatively) if the government is dependent on one resource like it would happen if oil became viable. The Turu move is premature and might ultimately chase away investors.
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Top shelf heavy heavy stuff.....
patel what are you saying? is the standoff staged? It smells like a rat - a bunch of Turkanas blocking oil tankers for months against GoK machinery :o :o
People need to Google Lucas Lundin he is in the same class with Dan Getler Israel billionaire looting Congo....The whole play here was to siphon south Sudan oil and ship it through kenya but Bashir nipped it in the bud with the recent peace deal in south Sudan. It's a hot mess. When is the oil coming online?
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This is the property market in Kenya today.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/08/08/where-were-you-kenyans-ask-nema-as-south-end-mall-is-torn-down_c1799325
(https://www.the-star.co.ke/sites/default/files/styles/new_full_content/public/articles/2018/08/08/1799388.jpg?itok=7v7cvXgH)
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My friend lost 1.2 million in commission last election cycle as suppliers were unable to pay their bills. I will check if she eventually got paid. It was sad to see such agony of her trying to push sales and nmjust wipe her savings trying to stay afloat
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I hear from home that suppliers camped at Busia governors office to demand payment. The story is similar all other counties, just a matter of time. Terrible because most of the county suppliers are smalltime traders looking for small monies to feed their families. I also met a guy from one of the counties telling us he usually traveled to Nairobi with a small gift for Treasury and OP guys to release AIEs and cash for suppliers. It has reached such levels that you have to bribe to get salaries and small payments from Nairobi.
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Kumbe Southend Mall is owned by former Bobasi MP Stephen Manoti (many dollars) and it cost KSH 1 billion. Word in town before this was that it was owned by the usual landgrabber. https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/08/08/video-nema-demolishes-ex-mp-manotis-south-end-mall-on-langata-road_c1799277
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Treasury seek debt manager https://twitter.com/search?q=david%20ndii&src=typd its clear now there's debt crisis. What do we have to show for $50b debt? If elections were held today uhuru wouldn't get more than 60% in mt.kenya region. Everyone is complaining about the economy.
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Treasury seek debt manager https://twitter.com/search?q=david%20ndii&src=typd its clear now there's debt crisis. What do we have to show for $50b debt? If elections were held today uhuru wouldn't get more than 60% in mt.kenya region. Everyone is complaining about the economy.
Uhuru is growing Chinese economy now!
He is a globalist so he is free to grow whichever economy he wants to
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In some ways tano tena was the right thing. When you rear a skunk, the stink should stay in your own house.
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Governments never gets broke as such, they just squeeze the taxpayers harder and with tribal cheering squads there is little opposition.
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It was coming all along.
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Treasury seek debt manager https://twitter.com/search?q=david%20ndii&src=typd its clear now there's debt crisis. What do we have to show for $50b debt? If elections were held today uhuru wouldn't get more than 60% in mt.kenya region. Everyone is complaining about the economy.
HK,
You and Pundit gave me a finger when I said five years ago that the govt is spending too much. Pundit said "economy will outgrow". The time has come to accepr the verdict and cut spending. All govt workers who earn more than 300K should either pay 50% tak\x or have salary cut. Entertainment expenses should be taxed as regular income, reduce VAT to 10% except on luxury items, etc.
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Raila as usual conning intellectually lazy kisumu residents
https://www.mwakilishi.com/article/kenya-news/2018-09-02/president-uhuru-will-stop-this-raila-assures-kenyans-on-hiked-fuel-prices?cid=h
How will the debt be serviced, if uhuru doesn't get 16 percent from fuel?
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Treasury seek debt manager https://twitter.com/search?q=david%20ndii&src=typd its clear now there's debt crisis. What do we have to show for $50b debt? If elections were held today uhuru wouldn't get more than 60% in mt.kenya region. Everyone is complaining about the economy.
HK,
You and Pundit gave me a finger when I said five years ago that the govt is spending too much. Pundit said "economy will outgrow". The time has come to accepr the verdict and cut spending. All govt workers who earn more than 300K should either pay 50% tak\x or have salary cut. Entertainment expenses should be taxed as regular income, reduce VAT to 10% except on luxury items, etc.
Five years ago even jubilee government first budget wasn't implemented. The problem is negative return on investment and obvious excesses. If the more than $20b jubilee borrowed was invested in the right projects government would have maintained low budget deficits. Kwani how many government workers make more than 300k? This would raise almost negligible amounts. I have always advocated for lower taxation especially on paye its starts at as little as 14k per month and the 30% rate kicks in at 35k per month. This is one the reason why we have a large informal sector. Informal sectors means our taxebase is very narrow. The solution for now is to slush the budget from $26b to manageable $20b. I can remember highlighting the size of our budget compared to other countries with similar economy size.Reduction on VAT has to be done in tandem with reduction of the budget.
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Living beyond our means, and yes, we will pay dearly
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Uhuru is just radar-less with ongoing war against the economy - I see very tough times ahead. Sugar sector now a mess. Matiangi is out there creating one mess after another. Tobiko is out there doing the same in forestry and enviroment. Uhuru is destroying huge business in Nairobi without recourse to any law.To make matters worse - he has now added VAT on fuel and other taxes that are unbearable.
The economy cannot take too much hits. Uhuru should let Ruto ran the economy. Tivets are starting to do well, SGR, roads, water and such ideas being overseen by Ruto.
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You are not serious. Since when did Ruto have anything to do with the running of any ministry's department? Look at KPC, KPLC, NCPB etc where he has his henchmen. All ridden with corruption.
Uhuru is just radar-less with ongoing war against the economy - I see very tough times ahead. Sugar sector now a mess. Matiangi is out there creating one mess after another. Tobiko is out there doing the same in forestry and enviroment. Uhuru is destroying huge business in Nairobi without recourse to any law.To make matters worse - he has now added VAT on fuel and other taxes that are unbearable.
The economy cannot take too much hits. Uhuru should let Ruto ran the economy. Tivets are starting to do well, SGR, roads, water and such ideas being overseen by Ruto.
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Pundit wants his friends given a chance to eat.
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Treasury seek debt manager https://twitter.com/search?q=david%20ndii&src=typd its clear now there's debt crisis. What do we have to show for $50b debt? If elections were held today uhuru wouldn't get more than 60% in mt.kenya region. Everyone is complaining about the economy.
HK,
You and Pundit gave me a finger when I said five years ago that the govt is spending too much. Pundit said "economy will outgrow". The time has come to accepr the verdict and cut spending. All govt workers who earn more than 300K should either pay 50% tak\x or have salary cut. Entertainment expenses should be taxed as regular income, reduce VAT to 10% except on luxury items, etc.
Five years ago even jubilee government first budget wasn't implemented. The problem is negative return on investment and obvious excesses. If the more than $20b jubilee borrowed was invested in the right projects government would have maintained low budget deficits. Kwani how many government workers make more than 300k? This would raise almost negligible amounts. I have always advocated for lower taxation especially on paye its starts at as little as 14k per month and the 30% rate kicks in at 35k per month. This is one the reason why we have a large informal sector. Informal sectors means our taxebase is very narrow. The solution for now is to slush the budget from $26b to manageable $20b. I can remember highlighting the size of our budget compared to other countries with similar economy size.Reduction on VAT has to be done in tandem with reduction of the budget.
HK. Taxation has to start somewhere. MPIGs get a million/month. That is 2 billion right there. The day there is fair taxation is the day the country will start progressing. Taxing input like gasoline only hurts the regular guy.
Yes the informal sector should pay tax so the money can be invested in modern infrastructure. Property values also needs to be taxed to pay for a top class primary school education. Every inch of land should be taxed, except farmland. Too many kids are under privileged because parents cant afford to pay for basic education.
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https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/09/03/jubilees-crushing-tax-burden-sparks-outrage_c1812211
the only people who pay tax are working class.
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If you want to measure fairness of taxation just compute over GDP. Kenya's at 17% of GDP while efficient collectors clock 30%. Of course the rich don't pay fair tax in Kenya. This is an institutional failure and KRA must improve to net everyone. MPs or the well connected are few - KRA needs to borrow expertise from the HMRC or IRS and such - it's a matter of being able to accurately account for all incomes starting with the formal economy. Very few people declare their full incomes voluntarily and not just in Kenya. That's why you have tax havens where even corps stash profits for years. It's not so much corruption or politics but KRA's technical incompetence.
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HK. Taxation has to start somewhere. MPIGs get a million/month. That is 2 billion right there. The day there is fair taxation is the day the country will start progressing. Taxing input like gasoline only hurts the regular guy.
Yes the informal sector should pay tax so the money can be invested in modern infrastructure. Property values also needs to be taxed to pay for a top class primary school education. Every inch of land should be taxed, except farmland. Too many kids are under privileged because parents cant afford to pay for basic education.
Mps actually are taxed at 35% rate the highest in the land. Maybe the allowance aren't taxed but their salary is. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Rotich-hits-top-income-earners-with-35pc-tax/3946234-4562256-82fs4x/index.html . Its only the formal sector that pays income tax. Treasury should be broadening the taxbase while lowering overall taxation rate. A flat rate of about 10% would be a could start to match the rate landlords are paying. We have millionaires farmers and traders who don't pay income tax while a watchman making 15k is paying 10% paye. In essence government should be formalizing the economy instead of heavily taxing formal sector which alternately
forces people to operate informally.
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Total agree. KRA been sleeping on the job for years now. Treasury should targets and if KRA can't meet them - KRA commissioners should be fired pronto.
If you want to measure fairness of taxation just compute over GDP. Kenya's at 17% of GDP while efficient collectors clock 30%. Of course the rich don't pay fair tax in Kenya. This is an institutional failure and KRA must improve to net everyone. MPs or the well connected are few - KRA needs to borrow expertise from the HMRC or IRS and such - it's a matter of being able to accurately account for all incomes starting with the formal economy. Very few people declare their full incomes voluntarily and not just in Kenya. That's why you have tax havens where even corps stash profits for years. It's not so much corruption or politics but KRA's technical incompetence.
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I think M-pesa will give us the tools we need to formalize the economy. Treasury & CBK need to remove big denomination from circulation - 1K & 500K - and that will force many people to pay through electronic means - and those transactions can be taxed - and it's won't matter if you're formal or informal. Cash based economy still thrive when we have built infrastructure to go fully digital. This need to happen as asap. Once that is done...Treasury can start taxing transactions....and it will collect it money without sweating.
India's Mondi is doing this - and this one way to stop graft - because it would be tough to be carting 100shs notes!!
Mps actually are taxed at 35% rate the highest in the land. Maybe the allowance aren't taxed but their salary is. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Rotich-hits-top-income-earners-with-35pc-tax/3946234-4562256-82fs4x/index.html . Its only the formal sector that pays income tax. Treasury should be broadening the taxbase while lowering overall taxation rate. A flat rate of about 10% would be a could start to match the rate landlords are paying. We have millionaires farmers and traders who don't pay income tax while a watchman making 15k is paying 10% paye. In essence government should be formalizing the economy instead of heavily taxing formal sector which alternately
forces people to operate informally.
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HK. Taxation has to start somewhere. MPIGs get a million/month. That is 2 billion right there. The day there is fair taxation is the day the country will start progressing. Taxing input like gasoline only hurts the regular guy.
Yes the informal sector should pay tax so the money can be invested in modern infrastructure. Property values also needs to be taxed to pay for a top class primary school education. Every inch of land should be taxed, except farmland. Too many kids are under privileged because parents cant afford to pay for basic education.
Mps actually are taxed at 35% rate the highest in the land. Maybe the allowance aren't taxed but their salary is. https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Rotich-hits-top-income-earners-with-35pc-tax/3946234-4562256-82fs4x/index.html . Its only the formal sector that pays income tax. Treasury should be broadening the taxbase while lowering overall taxation rate. A flat rate of about 10% would be a could start to match the rate landlords are paying. We have millionaires farmers and traders who don't pay income tax while a watchman making 15k is paying 10% paye. In essence government should be formalizing the economy instead of heavily taxing formal sector which alternately
forces people to operate informally.
ll income should be taxed, including entertainment. 35% of 1million is 650k. Thats a lot of cash in Kenya.
If I own a large tract of land and plant watermelons every year and collect 2million yearly I pay zero tax. Yes KRA is a failure chasing after watchmen while billionaires own and rent out mansions tax free.
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If you want to measure fairness of taxation just compute over GDP. Kenya's at 17% of GDP while efficient collectors clock 30%. Of course the rich don't pay fair tax in Kenya. This is an institutional failure and KRA must improve to net everyone. MPs or the well connected are few - KRA needs to borrow expertise from the HMRC or IRS and such - it's a matter of being able to accurately account for all incomes starting with the formal economy. Very few people declare their full incomes voluntarily and not just in Kenya. That's why you have tax havens where even corps stash profits for years. It's not so much cIf you want to measure fairness of taxation just compute over GDP. Kenya's at 17% of GDP while efficient collectors clock 30%. Of course the rich don't pay fair tax in Kenya. This is an institutional failure and KRA must improve to net everyone. MPs or the well connected are few - KRA needs to borrow expertise from the HMRC or IRS and such - it's a matter of being able to accurately account for all incomes starting with the formal economy. Very few people declare their full incomes voluntarily and not just in Kenya. That's why you have tax havens where even corps stash profits for years. It's not so much corruption or politics but KRA's technical incompetence.
EXACTLY!!
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How will Ruto run the economy differently? we said Uhuru need to reshuffle the cabinet pronto and bring in experts, URP wing of the government refused and said we need to stay the course....what would change?
Uhuru is just radar-less with ongoing war against the economy - I see very tough times ahead. Sugar sector now a mess. Matiangi is out there creating one mess after another. Tobiko is out there doing the same in forestry and enviroment. Uhuru is destroying huge business in Nairobi without recourse to any law.To make matters worse - he has now added VAT on fuel and other taxes that are unbearable.
The economy cannot take too much hits. Uhuru should let Ruto ran the economy. Tivets are starting to do well, SGR, roads, water and such ideas being overseen by Ruto.
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God help Kenya when akina Pundit take over the govt. Kenya is already on its knees and Ruto will plunder that country dry. He and his cohorts have no manners even when looting.
How will Ruto run the economy differently? we said Uhuru need to reshuffle the cabinet pronto and bring in experts, URP wing of the government refused and said we need to stay the course....what would change?
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I am just a cheerleader - I am not part of the looting neither will have be part of that.
God help Kenya when akina Pundit take over the govt. Kenya is already on its knees and Ruto will plunder that country dry. He and his cohorts have no manners even when looting.
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That is even worse. Why cheerlead looters when they are bleeding the country to its deathbed?
I am just a cheerleader - I am not part of the looting neither will have be part of that.
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I am not an idealist. I voted for Sonko and UhuRuto well aware of their past. They were better than Kidero and Odinga. That is what counts.
That is even worse. Why cheerlead looters when they are bleeding the country to its deathbed?
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God help Kenya when akina Pundit take over the govt. Kenya is already on its knees and Ruto will plunder that country dry. He and his cohorts have no manners even when looting.
How will Ruto run the economy differently? we said Uhuru need to reshuffle the cabinet pronto and bring in experts, URP wing of the government refused and said we need to stay the course....what would change?
That's my sentiment too. My theory 7yrs ago used to be that Kenya govt was taking on too much debt for its own good. Pundit reply was that the economy will will outgrow - Same as Republican Theory. Now we see the outcome. STAGNATION. Solution - Either they take massive cuts or take more debt, with the latter not feasible.
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Economy is doing well - set to grow at 6.5% - all macro-economic indicators looks good - IMF Is just the dark clouds we don't need - with their deficit theories.
That's my sentiment too. My theory 7yrs ago used to be that Kenya govt was taking on too much debt for its own good. Pundit reply was that the economy will will outgrow - Same as Republican Theory. Now we see the outcome. STAGNATION. Solution - Either they take massive cuts or take more debt, with the latter not feasible.
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Economy is doing well - set to grow at 6.5% - all macro-economic indicators looks good - IMF Is just the dark clouds we don't need - with their deficit theories.
Economy is doing well? Wait for the third quarter numbers. IMF isn't the problem, you have crazy budget deficit that needs to be financed. Treasury is scrambling to raise $710m to plug budget deficit. That's why fuel had to be VATed. The charade is over, government has to enter austerity program.
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Which sectors are seeing red - agriculture is definitely look up - with well distributed rains - I know real estate & manufacturing is struggling - but everything else seem to looking up. Budget deficit this year is down 2% - and really we have absorption problem - so this deficit is theoritical.
Economy is doing well? Wait for the third quarter numbers. IMF isn't the problem, you have crazy budget deficit that needs to be financed. Treasury is scrambling to raise $710m to plug budget deficit. That's why fuel had to be VATed. The charade is over, government has to enter austerity program.
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Which sectors are seeing red - agriculture is definitely look up - with well distributed rains - I know real estate & manufacturing is struggling - but everything else seem to looking up. Budget deficit this year is down 2% - and really we have absorption problem - so this deficit is theoritical.
Trade is struggling and services will suffer as the primary sectors struggle in addition to manufacturing and real estate. With increased inflation due to fuel cost, even agriculture earnings will suffer. Tourism might be the only bright spot. Wouldn't it be prudent if treasury used the supposedly idle funds to finance budget instead of issuing new debt almost weekly? All better yet why not slush the budget if government can't absorb the funds?
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Which sectors are seeing red - agriculture is definitely look up - with well distributed rains - I know real estate & manufacturing is struggling - but everything else seem to looking up. Budget deficit this year is down 2% - and really we have absorption problem - so this deficit is theoritical.
Trade is struggling and services will suffer as the primary sectors struggle in addition to manufacturing and real estate. With increased inflation due to fuel cost, even agriculture earnings will suffer. Tourism might be the only bright spot. Wouldn't it be prudent if treasury used the supposedly idle funds to finance budget instead of issuing new debt almost weekly? All better yet why not slush the budget if government can't absorb the funds?
HK
Its hard to argue with someone who has another version of truth (Alternative truth) :). Truth to them exists in their version.
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I HAVE ABOUT 20yrS ONLINE with more less the same guys so why not wait few mo ths for new economic data.The likes of kadudu were saying the same bullshiet in 2005..my track record speak for itself.Our economy will grow by 6.5%..at worst 6%.I have not changed my moniker.My punditry remain unmatched....way unmatched
Which sectors are seeing red - agriculture is definitely look up - with well distributed rains - I know real estate & manufacturing is struggling - but everything else seem to looking up. Budget deficit this year is down 2% - and really we have absorption problem - so this deficit is theoritical.
Trade is struggling and services will suffer as the primary sectors struggle in addition to manufacturing and real estate. With increased inflation due to fuel cost, even agriculture earnings will suffer. Tourism might be the only bright spot. Wouldn't it be prudent if treasury used the supposedly idle funds to finance budget instead of issuing new debt almost weekly? All better yet why not slush the budget if government can't absorb the funds?
HK
Its hard to argue with someone who has another version of truth (Alternative truth) :). Truth to them exists in their version.
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I HAVE ABOUT 20yrS ONLINE with more less the same guys so why not wait few mo ths for new economic data.The likes of kadudu were saying the same bullshiet in 2005..my track record speak for itself.Our economy will grow by 6.5%..at worst 6%.I have not changed my moniker.My punditry remain unmatched....way unmatched
Punditry at that level doesn't seem to be terribly difficult. I just asked my 10-year old nephew to go to Google, type "economic outlook for Kenya", and give me some numbers. Guess what numbers he got, from the usual sources. :D
And the thing with Kenya is that you never really know. One good drought or even just some political nonsense, and predicted growth just disappears.
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WE OWE NOBODY ANY DEBT
By Dr Wandia Njoya
The Kenyan bourgeoisie here are getting scared by my saying that we shouldn't pay back debts incurred by people we did not elect, and in our name without asking us.
And you better be scared.
The French Revolution, was a bloody ten years of upheaval that was caused by guess what? Debt.
The Royalty had racked up a big national debt that was caused by building a huge palace in Versailles and by France fighting wars. Things were made worse by the 14-year old Austrian princess, Marie Antoinette, who was entertaining herself and her friends at the cost of the public. As you can imagine, when the Parisians had no bread, they would get so angry that they're starving while their taxes pay for Marie to party. That's where the rumor that she had said people should eat cake started.
Remember also that there were 3 estates in France: the clergy, the nobility and the rest. Only the rest paid taxes, and yet they were the poorest.
In the rural areas, the story was the same. The dictatorship of debt. The peasants were required to work the land, and from the produce, they were supposed to give a significant portion to the landlord to pay back a debt that would never end.
While Paris was in distress, the king and his family remained in Versailles. Versailles was becoming a challenge to the people's power that was strong in Paris. The people's anger was made worse by reports in the emerging 4th estate that Versailles was holding lavish banquets at the expense of the people.
So in October 1789, a group of women marched six hours to Versailes. After a long stand off, they forced the king and his family to go back to Paris, where he would have no choice but to listen to the people's assembly that had taken over government.
My point here is that the people who live in State House and work in Treasury have no idea what it feels like to live on our side of the street.
They tell us we need an expensive railway, when what we need is good healthcare, education and jobs. They fly to Washington and Beijing, where Trump and Jinping tell them what our problems are, as if we have no mouths and brains to tell State House and Treasury ourselves.
We've made Muigai's foreign travels a joke, when in fact, we should do what the women of Paris did: tell him to sit his butt down in Nairobi and burn the midnight oil sorting this mess out. We don't want to hear about foreigners we did not elect. Let him work like the rest of us and stop globe trotting.
As the French Revolution shows, there comes a time when debt becomes enslavement and becomes an injustice which we cannot accept to pay.
Ironically, the greatest debt we have ever had is being incurred by a party called Jubilee. Yet the biblical Jubilee was the year when all debt was written off, whether it was paid in full or not, and the people of Israel were allowed to start working on a fresh slate.
We cannot be obliged to pay debts which were incurred through injustice.
We need a political party, in the style of Malema's EFF, to campaign on that platform, and promise international guys that we owe them nothing.
We can still trade, but we the people don't owe them anything. If we're really nice, we can invite them to get their money back from the wealth of the rich 8,000 Kenyans who own 62% of the country. And that's after we take back the people's property like the land.
Now, a word to you educated Kenyans reading this.
You have been seriously, seriously, like seriously, miseducated. The way I see you panicking on my wall when I talk of strategic planning and freedom form debt is extremely strange. You pretend you are commenting on what I've said, when all you're doing is repeating what you hear teachers and private sector say.
You went to school. The last thing an idea should make you do - whether you agree with it or not - is panic. Your fear means that you are invested in this dysfunctional system as it is, and that when you criticize GoK, it is because you fantasize that our problems are not systemic but a problem of human error.
But centuries of racist capitalism is not human error. It's a system designed to fail. And the worst part for me is watching educated Kenyans hopelessly unable to grasp the idea of a bad system. That's why they keep telling me "why are you blaming X?" or "the problem isn't the system but the people in it."
You, you educated Kenyans are the people preventing change from happening in Kenya. You want the system to remain intact, but just the people within it to change. Every time the people start saying something is wrong, you start accepting calls from government ministers, visiting their offices and promising to draft policy to be tabled in Parliament.
All that is the same nonsense of Jomo's approach of "conservative modernization," where we lobby for inclusion in the colonial state without overturning the state.
The thing we need to do is to explain to the people what the problem is, so that they demand for change where they are, not in workshops and manels in hotels. Soon enough, the Kenyan people are going to storm into our hotel workshops and tell us off, the way Nalongo Nana did in Uganda.
For the rest of us, this truth remains. We cannot pay this debt. We must not pay it. And maybe if we said it loud enough, this government will stop gambling with our lives.
Forget what the titled professionals tell you about economic theories and whatever else.
Justice demands that we cannot, and should not, pay back any loans incurred by Muigai and Rotich. Let them pay back that money from their own pockets.
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What a beautiful mind Dr. Wandia Njoya is....I hope I live to see this kind of a great thinker in supreme court. She is unrivaled in churning and channeling organic thoughts.
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Wandia Njoya is an ideological Luo just like David Ndii.