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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on August 01, 2018, 05:49:43 AM

Title: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 01, 2018, 05:49:43 AM: There not even a word on this murder. Kenyans forget quickly
Title: Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
Post by: RVtitem on August 01, 2018, 07:23:06 AM: Handshake miracles!
Title: Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 01, 2018, 06:20:17 PM: Collateral damage. Like the dead NASA supporters. I am not blaming Raila. But it has been a while since he has been in it for wanjiku's sake. Always looking out for number one.
Title: Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
Post by: Nefertiti on August 02, 2018, 12:33:11 PM: Quote from: bitmask on August 01, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
Collateral damage. Like the dead NASA supporters. I am not blaming Raila. But it has been a while since he has been in it for wanjiku's sake. Always looking out for number one.

All people look out for number one - possibly except mothers and monks/nuns. The issue is what good comes out of the pursuit. Kenya has room and still needs reformers - Railas, NGOs like TI, Omtatas & activists, etc. Who would check a corrupt, bloodletting hound like Ruto if not Raila? Uhuru is only out for himself and maybe Gema. Among the Big Trio Raila still reflects common folks than the others.

It's why I support the sleight of hand called Handshake. So long as the political map remains a threeway - Ruto's wanton greed and excesses will be checked - because there'll be viable alternatives. Compared to the crumbling Kanu 2.0 he has created while corrupting everyone. It's not so much whether he loses or not - while hoping he does - he can do his miracles in government but with proper checks in place.

Your take... a few Msandos or Jumas will be rubble. Uhuru is responsible for that, not Raila.
Title: Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
Post by: Nefertiti on August 02, 2018, 12:48:00 PM: Ruto must be mulling hard how to transfer the work he has done in Jubilee - the money and sweat - not to end up with zero work gain like ODM and UDM. He needs to register Jubilee Kenya :D - United Green Party sounds like URP kalenjin party. All the new parties are registered by kalenjin because he can't trust anyone. Folks can eat his cash and pull a Kamwaro.

Basically now he's marketing Jubilee which he doesn't control. He may just have to strike a deal with UhuRao - minus the smart alec hubris - which would be nothing less than PM. Only way Ruto makes it is to split the swara. Noone trusts the hound.
Title: Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 03, 2018, 05:03:22 PM: Wow calling someone death collateral damage is callous
Title: Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 03, 2018, 05:52:44 PM: Quote from: KenyanPlato on August 03, 2018, 05:03:22 PM
Wow calling someone death collateral damage is callous

Maybe you can explain why it's not collateral damage? I think his murder was not the end in itself. He just happened to be in the way.

Also, Raila is perfectly comfortable ignoring it.
Title: Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
Post by: Kadudu on August 03, 2018, 05:59:13 PM: I thought Msando was working for IEBC and not NASA.
Title: Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 03, 2018, 06:05:04 PM: Quote from: Kadudu on August 03, 2018, 05:59:13 PM
I thought Msando was working for IEBC and not NASA.

You are right. I am not blaming Raila as mentioned in my first response. But I also have no illusions that he has created some daylight between himself and pursuit of justice for Msando and his family. Maybe it's for the greater good. I think it's just inconvenience for him.
Title: Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
Post by: Georgesoros on August 03, 2018, 09:44:59 PM: Tom Mboya, JJ Kariuki, Ouko, James Juma, Msando are a few hundred political murders that remain unsolved.