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Offline KenyanPlato

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last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
« on: August 01, 2018, 05:49:43 AM »
There not even a word on this murder. Kenyans forget quickly

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Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2018, 07:23:06 AM »
Handshake miracles!

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Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2018, 06:20:17 PM »
Collateral damage.   Like the dead NASA supporters.  I am not blaming Raila.  But it has been a while since he has been in it for wanjiku's sake.  Always looking out for number one.
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Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2018, 12:33:11 PM »
Quote from: bitmask on August 01, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
Collateral damage.   Like the dead NASA supporters.  I am not blaming Raila.  But it has been a while since he has been in it for wanjiku's sake.  Always looking out for number one.

All people look out for number one - possibly except mothers and monks/nuns. The issue is what good comes out of the pursuit. Kenya has room and still needs reformers - Railas, NGOs like TI, Omtatas & activists, etc. Who would check a corrupt, bloodletting hound like Ruto if not Raila? Uhuru is only out for himself and maybe Gema. Among the Big Trio Raila still reflects common folks than the others.

It's why I support the sleight of hand called Handshake. So long as the political map remains a threeway - Ruto's wanton greed and excesses will be checked - because there'll be viable alternatives. Compared to the crumbling Kanu 2.0 he has created while corrupting everyone. It's not so much whether he loses or not - while hoping he does - he can do his miracles in government but with proper checks in place.

Your take... a few Msandos or Jumas will be rubble. Uhuru is responsible for that,  not Raila.
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Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2018, 12:48:00 PM »
Ruto must be mulling hard how to transfer the work he has done in Jubilee - the money and sweat - not to end up with zero work gain like ODM and UDM. He needs to register Jubilee Kenya :D - United Green Party sounds like URP kalenjin party. All the new parties are registered by kalenjin because he can't trust anyone. Folks can eat his cash and pull a Kamwaro.

Basically now he's marketing Jubilee which he doesn't control. He may just have to strike a deal with UhuRao - minus the smart alec hubris - which would be nothing less than PM. Only way Ruto makes it is to split the swara. Noone trusts the hound.
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Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2018, 05:03:22 PM »
Wow calling someone death collateral damage is callous

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Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2018, 05:52:44 PM »
Quote from: KenyanPlato on August 03, 2018, 05:03:22 PM
Wow calling someone death collateral damage is callous

Maybe you can explain why it's not collateral damage?  I think his murder was not the end in itself.  He just happened to be in the way. 

Also, Raila is perfectly comfortable ignoring it.
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Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2018, 05:59:13 PM »
I thought Msando was working for IEBC and not NASA.

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Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2018, 06:05:04 PM »
Quote from: Kadudu on August 03, 2018, 05:59:13 PM
I thought Msando was working for IEBC and not NASA.

You are right.  I am not blaming Raila as mentioned in my first response.  But I also have no illusions that he has created some daylight between himself and pursuit of justice for Msando and his family.  Maybe it's for the greater good.  I think it's just inconvenience for him.
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Re: last year at a time like this Nasa was mourning Msando
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2018, 09:44:59 PM »
Tom Mboya, JJ Kariuki, Ouko, James Juma, Msando are a few hundred political murders that remain unsolved.
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